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 No.9766 SYSTEMKONTRA [Last 50 Posts]

For the finn that is gone anyway: >>9421

 No.9767

>>9765
>have some lunch.

Probably why I would go. Don't fall for tourist traps though, would be a shame.

>To me a priest at least carries some semblance of authority, be it divine, institutional or traditional.


But the context is gone as the church has been watered down and pushed aside. I think the ritual itself and the architecture of a church make it special but what the priest says has become picking life coach verses from an old book.

 No.9769

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When faced with an assortment of doughnuts, do you select your favorite- something you know- or take the opportunity to try a new variety?

Someone brought a box in to work, and I took the old standby. Chocolate frosted Bavarian creme. Almost immediately regretted the decision. It was good, but I should take more risks.

 No.9770

On the plane. Menopause stricken women around me talk of their shopping trip.
The aeroport is the last bastion of fascism in our modern society. Truly.

I’m surprisingly alert after like 3 hours of sleep.

>>9769
I could kill for a vanillia-cream doughnut. It was one of my favourite childhood pastries and the bakery that made them closed down and now you can only buy jelly-doughnuts at the supermarket.
I am suffer.

 No.9772 KONTRA

>>9767
I think the context is only degraded. It’s still there.
Most of these rites would have been incredibly powerful aesthetically if more people said the prayers along with the priest and sang the songs.

 No.9774 KONTRA

Every single fucking time I fall for this shit.
>Don’t worry we are going to rent a car it’ll be fine
And then we suck shit for like 40 minutes to find a fucking transfer talking to retards who can’t speak English worth jack trying to scam us out of seven billion Reichsmarks.

 No.9775 KONTRA

I am way too neurotic to set foot in Italy.

 No.9777

>>9769
>When faced with an assortment of doughnuts
This doesn't happen often enough for me to be able to answer your question.

 No.9779

>>9772
Yeah, certainly but it does not happen because religion slowly vanished, not sure how that larping as catholic online among younger people will change that again. I think rituals are very important, especially when it comes to death.

>>9774
When you know what to expect, why not take it in your own hand and organize a smooth transport for your family. You have the research skills to do so and it would help you grow up, frankly spoken.

 No.9780

>>9769
Now I want a donut. Sometimes I go to Dunkin Donuts when taking the train and try something new. I like Maple Frosted and Boston Cream best. I tried others in the past but I often go for these two these days.

 No.9781 KONTRA

>>9780
Tell me, when do you go to dunkin donuts? On your way home from WalMart?

Cards on the table. Are you proxy posting or are you stationed in Germany and use a German IP? There is no Dunkin Donuts in Germany. Besatzerdreck!

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>>9781
t. bumfuck nowhere villager

 No.9783 KONTRA

>>9781
While no stored exist here as of yet, Dunkin Donuts are sold in a supermarket chain. We're all living in America, Hans.

 No.9784 KONTRA

Tickets sold out to the Last Supper for today. It’s over.
My feet hurt from walking.

 No.9785 KONTRA

I wrote a long post, I thought I was a genius.

In reality, it was essentially the idea behind Fight Club. Fugg.

The shit a nigga does on a Saturday evening.

 No.9787

>>9782
And this is the point where I hide yet another TODAY thread.

t. hasn't posted in this one before

 No.9788 KONTRA

>>9787
> t. >>9781
Stop samefagging.

 No.9789 KONTRA

>>9781
>There is no Dunkin Donuts in Germany.
That's factually untrue.
There are indeed several donut chains in Germany, but they're usually located in bigger cities' malls and train stations.
Doesn't mean that city scum like >>9782 is any better than you though.

 No.9791 KONTRA

I hate how EC threads have been reduced to shitposting. It’s not done in good faith.

 No.9792 KONTRA

>>9791
i currently have a >12k char post in draft i am thinking of either shit-posting as is or not posting it at all... doubt i find the motivation to turn it into a quality post.

 No.9793 KONTRA

I was not made for this shit. I was made to either be carried around on a sedan chair by locals or stay in the same place for decades like a peasant.

 No.9794

>>9791
>>9793
Italy is Hungary lying on his side.

 No.9795 KONTRA

>>9791
The schizo and a new German are the cause for the higher than usual count of German posts.

 No.9796 KONTRA

>>9795
I honestly don’t give a shit about them being Germans. What drives me mad is the shit tier political discours about Germany dying and the like.

 No.9797 KONTRA

>>9796
This is all wise and true, the Huns do not talk in good faith. It's all in disarray under the EC Heavens and so on.

And yet, you're in Italy with your family. Enjoy it, you pritzy faggot. Yes, even whatever overpriced touristy things that are being brought before you. Post pictures soon :DD

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>>9796
> the shit tier political discours
in my shizo mind i assume that all those are proxy germans so that i can keep my national pride. i doubt anyone who experienced german education would believe that a switch/change of "the" political party could solve "all" the problems. if any one is actually interested in political discourse he/she would select a topic/problem and not a party to discuss. namefagging for empirical examples might be useful, yes, but honestly... it's only useful for pointing fingers at past mistakes and bully 'em. Good examples? Always only in promises and in "the future". Namefagging in the hope party x or y is going to keep promises? laughable.

 No.9799

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>>9796
Did you eat a good pizza, have a nice snack? Some cornetti?

 No.9800 KONTRA

>>9797
Honestly surprised the Japanese tourist groups don’t commit suicide in Italy because of the unordnung that’s going on here.
Though Milan is markedly better than Rome was.
I wish we went to Firenze though.

Just witnessed my father shittalk the Samsung tablets and phones on display at the airport.

 No.9801

Didn’t take that many photos I think. Only went to the Dome and one museum. I’ll sift through the photos at home.

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>>9800
>the unordnung that’s going on here

I like this about Italy and I guess it was one reason why Romania reminded me of Italy :DDD

 No.9803

>>9796
>What drives me mad is the shit tier political discours about Germany dying and the like.
Mamma mia, there-a is-a no dis-a-course!
Just the schizo schizoposting and some dumbass actually replying to him.

 No.9804 KONTRA

>>9803
Tuttifrutti! Mare nostrum!
I know-a that!

 No.9805

I really want to fool around and schizopost a bit, but I hold back.

 No.9806 KONTRA

>>9804
Look at him, the easterner. A Czechoslovak who thinks he can mock Italians.

 No.9807

The today thread used to be more lenient towards shitposting. But since 75% of /int/ activity is in the today thread, it looks like everything is full of shitposting. Maybe it helps to diversify threads?

 No.9808 KONTRA

>>9806
You better laugh about it, it won't get any better than this.

 No.9811

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i think i missed an invitation for sexy time this weekend.

i'm usually not good at picking up social cues/clues; i need formulated words which do confirm my suspicions in order to act upon 'em. welp, whatever. she is drummer of local band. when i first arrived it was a little awkward. (hug, no hug? since ~long time no see... i just sat down, she didn't make any big gestures just a slight "hmpf"-expression, not even anything vocally) we talked a little, but not too much. band was jamming in order to find melody/stuff for new text, mainly. with the occasional cig/beer/whatev break. She left somewhat early and made this typical "no, you won't escape a hug this time"-gesture, so i had to oblige. After a caressing hug we talked a little while she was still holding on to my arms slightly. She said she is in the mood to cuddle, but has to get up early the next morning, work or something. i've interpreted as
> she really wanna cuddle, prolly talk about something emotional she currently problemnings with and optional sexy time depending on how mood/situation evolves.
> she doesn't rly has time for it, though, and isn't sure if she gonna blame me or herself if she ends up getting just a little bit of sleep, yet.
> implied, because she currently no flat/watev in town and only couch surfs for a few nights when visiting, that i would need to invite her over.
well... potential stress. plus my flat looks like shit, currently. i think my subconsciousness took over and pulled the alpha move of tenderly holding her still clingy arms and slightly pull 'em in and said ~"was nice seeing ya, bb" or something along those lines. only after she left i realized there was a potential sexy time with all those other things and i started to hate myself for being stupid.

 No.9812 KONTRA

>>9811
You did okay, all sounds like positive developments. Some almost 30 people showed up last night. Ended up falling asleep at 6am. Good times.

 No.9814

The compartments of my desk drawer are ever so slightly too short to fit a 450 ml can of beer standing upright.

It is annoying.

 No.9815

>>9814
What would a seasoned alcoholic do with a can of beer, anyway?

 No.9817

I'm close to having my MA. The defense is next week. I was asked to reflect on my thesis and talk for a short period of time what I reflected on before there is discussionings. I'm a bit nervous of course but also feel very dreaded, I read the thesis two times now and I don't want to read it anymore. I did good overall I'd say and while I sense there are problems with the thesis most of them seem to be a problem of time that I simply did not have. I'm curious but also a but fearful of their critique albeit I expect this not to be super critical. My thesis and questions are valid, it can be proven but the fundament would benefit from more sources and thinking I did not have the time for, also more sources would have probably given a more differentiated picture that shows greater analytical depth. It feels like a good idea, a probe into something, and therefore shallow in a way. Shallow yet promising enough for an actual research project. I feel like this can be used for an actual application I got rejected in Switzerland, no cozy minimum wage 4000CHF before taxes for me, but it was expected since my offerings for their project weren't the best fit. But better to try and fail than not apply at all, sometimes they accept stuff that seems to diverge from what the projects seem to be about but this one was very specific in its focus, and it had two very important aspects I could not cover since it is not my area of interest at all

 No.9818

>>9817
>not enough time
Time management and prioritization are also important skills to have. Hope you can draw something from this experience, too.

>rejected by the swiss

Condolences, but as you said, better to have tried and failed than never having tried.

 No.9819

>>9815
They are wide and long enough to contain 5x6 cans of beer each (there are 2 of them).
And by "beer" I mean 7% piss lager.

 No.9820

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>>9818
>Time management and prioritization are also important skills to have.

I finished the thesis in half the time that I was officially granted. The reasons for this are monetary.
That said, I wrote more pages than was the minimum requirement. About 10 pages more. but being time-bound I was not able to do a lot of corrections or give it away for reading Subtract from these 10 pages maybe 5 pages of paragraphs which I think in retrospect would not have been necessary for the core argument I think. Their functionality is not crucial, rather adds texture or simply could have been neglected without doing any harm to the argument.
More time does not necessarily make a thesis better but I would have been able to read more sources, do some more informational compression cite sources instead of secondary literature on some historical phenomena but compress these hard in order to not write too much would have been the aim, have more analytical depth read more of the source material and compress these harder into an insight and thus a more differentiated argument/analysis/history. As I mentioned, for an MA, I still think the argument is quite nice.
The conduct has its weaknesses in things like formulations could be more elegant and thus having added depth. It's a history thing, hard to explain because it does not mean writing prosaically but something else and connecting the dots in a more enmeshed fashion. The dots itself could have given more depth by better/more analysis. But maybe the problem here is also me comparing myself to people's work I read that have been doing this shit for a decade or more.

 No.9821

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No truth for you, Ernst. NONE!

 No.9822

>>9821
What are the references here?

t. clueless

 No.9823 KONTRA

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I wasted the entire day playing Terraria.
Well, technically I updated my ppt with material I learned from the books I read on the plane. I'm supposed to do a progress report on Tuesday.
When I woke up I couldn't actually put my alarm clock back down onto the shelf after I turned it off so I kept attempting to place it lower and lower until I almost accidentally dropped it inside a jug of leftover tea on my smaller desk.

Here are some photos I took I guess. Despite the city's size, it doesn't feel like its tourism is "overdeveloped" like Rome's is.
Barely any haggling, Some outrageous prices here and there, but otherwise it doesn't feel like you jumped into an Alpha class city which was a major renaissance player.

The most comical part was this exhibition of Michelangelo's Pieta at the renaissance castle. Which was a large room with the statue in it, and then two, smaller, secluded rooms, in which we at first thought nothing was exhibited, but as it turns out, the exhibition pieces were the pedestals they put the statue on like 60-50 years ago. So like a giant stone cube('s reproduction) and a wooden box with a top that spins.

I enjoyed the Lombard statue exhibition. It felt like it filled a gap in my preconceptions of art between Roman times and the Renaissance.
I feel like the Dome was the only real tourist-trap in the city. There are so many fucking people there that I felt like I just couldn't handle it.

Part of me never fucking wants to visit Italy ever again, but I also want to go to Firenze to see some stuff related to Machiavelli.
Man, I really did get myself the worst possible political education during college.

Tomorrow I'm going to the library I guess. Study some.
Also finally gonna order the books I wanted to order but I just keep forgetting to sit down and punch in my card number to do it.

 No.9825

>>9822
It’s a gnostic meme. The flower spurdo is the demiurge, who created our flawed reality. It’s actually not a flower but a lion worm. Gnostic theory more or less states that the god creator is either evil, incompetent or both sometimes, which would explain suffering and feeling of incompleteness. Since he is incompetent, he is the creation of another more perfect being.

 No.9826 KONTRA

Wasting life again playing Europa universalis IV.

 No.9827

>>9825
Thanks, something with religion for sure. But why is the more perfect being an angel? I thought angels are usually regarded as the communicators/channels/media between heavens and earthly matters fuck yeah, philosophical media studies and thus below god.

 No.9829 KONTRA

>>9827
That's Sophia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)
She's cool, she gave you your divine spark.

 No.9830

eh, now that some religious stuff got brought up Ernst remembers the following, but isn't too sure about it's authenticy.
Isn't a lot of the christian's "Jesus" just copy&paste from some sol/sun figurerine the old egypts had?

>>9416

i want a pyramid as well, now that you've mentioned it. you have a good point.

 No.9831

>>9830
>Isn't a lot of the christian's "Jesus" just copy&paste from some sol/sun figurerine the old egypts had?
Like what? His name, his deeds, his concept?

You have to remember that Judaism is only 3000 years old or so and who knows what kind of stuff they (and in consequence the christians) were incorporating into their own lore.
Or are you confusing it with the roman "Sol Invictus", by chance?

 No.9832 KONTRA

>>9831
> Like what? His name, his deeds, his concept?
afaik mainly the concept with a few deeds/lore also copy&pasted. this Ernst really isn't too much into any kind of fanfiction unless it's porn, so he doesn't rly care too much about the integrity of his memory regarding this kinda stuff, because he simply doesn't care enough.

e.g. being born right around the winter solstice, being the son of a god (okeehh, that one is super common.) and even this being reborn thingy was something that egypt figurine did, iirc. might also hav been a roman figurine.

 No.9833 KONTRA

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>>9830
Christ as a Myth theory, is the theory that there was never the historical Jesus Christ, instead JC being a mix of older myths and ancient figures. It's a fringe theory with the historical record pointing in another direction.

Given shitposts about fanfiction and the age of the average Ernst, you problably saw it in Bill Maher's 2008 movie Religulous. Ironic that you now spread these ahistorical myths yourself.
t. true enlightened fedora man, the authentic and truest intellectual on EC, dispeller of untruths and fiction

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>>9833
I'm not too sure where I have that "info"/ahistorical myth from, but I have it somewhat linked to looking up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock and related stuff.
> [...] is a British writer who promotes pseudoscientific[2][3] theories involving ancient civilizations and hypothetical [...]
Oh, Wikipedia... never stop being such a sassy bitch.

> film.jpg

> from the director of Borat
first time hearing about that movie. gonna give it a try; sounds like a fun watch.

 No.9835

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Want to smell a contemporary fart? Click the link, you nose scruncher.

https://vimeo.com/834392593

**The video game What’s Your Truth (WYT) is a long-term project by Sara Bezovšek and Dorijan Šiško in which the artists explore the ideas of contemporary post-internet society and “truths”.

WYT questions the practical effects of postmodern relativism while flirting with the consequences of the fragmentation of social consensus and the proliferation of “truths” that characterise society and politics in the age of the internet, algorithmic profiling and social media.**

**Through the virtual world the players embark on an information oriented ideological path where he or she reveals his or her unique personality profile by visiting thematic locations and choosing the so called “truths”.

The design is divided into two segments: Light Mode, takes place on the surface, and Dark Mode, takes place underwater; this is also where all the darkest “truths” can be found. The players follow the so-called “Yellow Brick Road”, and embark on a virtual path from the tip of the iceberg into the depths of various ideologies and confront them primarily visually. Throughout the path, players are accompanied by memes which serve as a sort of road signs while at the same time further contextualising locations and “truths”.**

**The informational-ideological path of this gaming mission and at the same time personality test leads to several possible conclusions – different mutually exclusive truths – which the player with his/her choices not only determines but also co-shapes, reinforces, and further disseminates.

The project flirts with the philosophical implications of the existence of various “truths” in the media-social landscape of a post-virtual, post-internet society. Metaphysical relativism, diagnosed by French poststructuralists in the second half of the 20th century, is now established in the practical sphere. But the project in question does not merely toy with this situation, but rather problematizes it: when the players move between individual “truths” and select/accumulate them, he or she also participates in their formation, preservation and dissemination and is thus part of a different, mutually exclusive reality. In Hegel’s sense, the concept of each of the offered ideologies as a federal assumption, paired with other “truths”, is thus “abolished”.**

**The video game has been shown three times, each time with an extensive upgrade.

In the most recent version, titled Tipping Point, the WYT gaming experience is updated with elements that responded to the then current socio-political situations, and the space of the video game spilled over into the space of the exhibition. The gallery and its “reality” were just another (non-privileged) piece of the iceberg, one part of this world of “many truths” in which everyone choosed/revealed their own.**



I hope I did not fail any spoilers

 No.9836

Expletive you and your spoilers

 No.9837 KONTRA

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>>9836
I now reckon a quote style reposting would have been better. I could swear on older boards like old KayCee and such spoilers worked even with line skip. Well. Now nobody can tell me that form or presentation does not matter over content.

This game simulates taking a hit from the pipe you encounter when you fall into one of many rabbit wholes that await you ones you immersed yourself in a virtual space.
What would EC look like if we would meet up IRL to communicate like we do now? prison cells to separate Germans from each other :DDD

 No.9838

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The future arrived in Germany. My non-discounter grocery store had a robot with kawaii appearance cleaning the floor. it got in my way when I tried to get around it

 No.9839

>>9802
Feces in public places, ugly graffiti and junkies are well known leftist fetishes.

 No.9840 KONTRA

>>9835
>Delusional, pseudo-guru
Big words from a delusional, pseudo-intelectual game. Father Jim still has some shooters out here.

 No.9841

>>9840
I know you would happily play the game once you entered the gallery, nose scruncher. You will be sneering and only ironically enter the gallery but beyond the facade, a child is delighted to enter the game's universe.

 No.9842 KONTRA

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Terrible moodswings again. Also my left eyelid kept twitching for a while. The weather's turning bad.
I wasted most of the day and then I went to the store and bought some food.

Worked a bit on the assigned text for Classical Chinese class because the lecturer bothered to send it over Sunday night and it's two Zhiguai texts again.
He managed to find the most retarded encoding or something because half the characters won't register in my dictionary despite looking normal.

I feel very tired.

 No.9843

Slept all day. Slept at a starbucks, it pissed off an employee with down syndrome who asked me to leave. I'll go to sleep now.

 No.9847

Cat has been sick. IBS. Been to the vet several times. Hospitalized for two days at his worst. Looking better now- eating and drinking- but will be on steroids for the foreseeable future. Also, vitamin B shots because of the associated anemia. He's high maintenance, but worth it. His sister has always been the more robust one. Never a problem other than that time she poisoned herself sniffing lilies.

>>9823
>pic
Nice to see so much green this late into autumn. There are places where everything hasn't withered.

 No.9849

Exam results are in, better than expected.
Went to a Haidilao hotpot restaurant for a friend's birthday, and the service was insane: girls can get their nails made in the waiting room, free drinks & snacks, if you order pulled noodles a guy comes and you can choose a song to which he dances and puts on a performance pulling it in front of you and the birthday boy/girl gets a whole crew of the staff singing a birthday song for them while one of the guys does the Fortnite floss dance dressed up in a costume of your Chinese zodiac sign. And it isn't even that expensive!
Also finally talked to a noisy neighbor about his singing and he was rather forthcoming.

>>9842
>my left eyelid kept twitching
右眼跳灾,左眼跳财。
An auspicious sign!

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>>9849
看看吧!先生已经用成语说汉语!
你汉语说的水平发展的很快。

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 No.9863

>>984
> [...],[...].
> […],[…]。

>>9856
> [...]![...]![...].
> […]![…]![…]。


are those.... actual chinese symbols?

> Yòu yǎn tiào zāi, zuǒ yǎn tiào cái.

uh... so... he gone be richies boi? or because of twitchy that eye not gonna get any cái[?] and only gonna get zāi his whole life?

 No.9864

>>9849
Now compare to service in Germany where you get one waiter who will scold you for ordering the wrong item from the menu.

Germany is do done, it isn't even funny anymore. This shit country is finished.

 No.9867 KONTRA

>>9864
Then follow Germany and die already instead of shitting up the thread.

 No.9872

>>9861
Shangzai in action! Take the McMansion but improve it, that's the Chinese Spirit.

I would post some of the Chinese "final destination" tiktoks I regulary get on my FYP but I'm too lazy looking them up

 No.9873 KONTRA

>>9863
You mean what? Having punctuation?
Yes, modern standard mandaring has punctuations.
(Technically even some classical texts had things resembling punctuation, since at least the Tang era.)
But like nobody composes “blocks” of texts like in 200BC.

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>>9864
> waiter who will scold you for ordering the wrong item from the menu.
Ach, Karen...
Go back to amürica, if you don't like it here. Germans just gonna tell you upright in the face, that you are stupid. It's our culture. Don't expect to emigrate to another country and have them adept to your stupid culture. Try to assimilate instead.

 No.9877

Ernst my uni mail account will be gone in a a few months. Don't know how long they are activated after exmatriculation but what is a good free alternative for simple email traffic? I'm considering Protonmail because they market themselves as secure and anonymous. Yay or ney?
Now that I think about it, I need one with a good spam filter, I guess proton might have that as well?

 No.9878

>>9877
I have Yahoo, Gmail, and Proton Mail. Yahoo is the worst. User data hacked numerous times, terrible landing page and unbearable ads. Google simply does too much. I want mail not an account to store photos, manage my search data and such. No complaints about Proton.

 No.9879

>>9878
Thanks, already opened a proton account. Seems fine. I might use the calendar of these email programs now that I'm a grown up I use handwritten notes but a calendar seems good, especially when I'm not depressed I get a bit overwhelmed by what needs to be organized because I meet more people

 No.9880

>>9877
Tutanota.com

 No.9881

>>9877
depends on what you wanna do.

> only using online client to access e-mail server of another party

prolly g-mail or protonmail.

> i care about privacy + lazy/online client user

prolly protonmail or some other party, which cares more about a certain aspect you are focusing on... there are a lot of good (and bad) mail-service providers outside of protonmail. protonmail just is pretty much "good enough" for every use case you can expect from using someone elses mail services.

> i really do care about privacy

welp, you gotta host your own service, i guess.
all mistakes done are your own fault in that case.

> i actually don't care about privacy at all. i care about service and ease of use.

prolly g-mail or protonmail.

> I need one with a good spam filter

in that case avoid the new 360° microsoft shit at all cost; so many filtered actual mails and still a decent amount of spam.


other stuff like web.de/yahoo/whatever is pretty much just a worse version of g-mail; no privacy and worse service.

 No.9882

>>9881
As mentioned I was not patient enough and just opened a proton accoutn since I just need "good enough". Just writing emails occasionally, having an address so people and businesses can reach out to me with their needs all while not being buried in spam. My uni mail had no spam at all so I suppose it's possible for proton as well.

 No.9883 KONTRA

>>9882
> had no spam at all
sometimes it is worth looking in the spam folder. newly created (self-)host services usually are untrusted by default and it needs enough people to mark these mails as "not spam" in order to not automatically be filtered out in the future.
honestly, the whole e-mail protocol is a mess. it was created and envisioned by hippies, who didn't even think about someone who might have malicious intend while using that system. but since humans are lazy and "we always did it that way" we've put so much on top of it to make it somewhat usable.

 No.9884

>>9883
I have no idea how it works but as an end user I did not encounter many problems so far.
But I received for example spam sms when I left my phone number at Corona test centers in 2021 or so, luckily it stopped after a while.

 No.9885 KONTRA

>>9884
It's been a while since I even thought about Gorona. I wonder what that virus is up to these days.

 No.9886

>>9885
Gorona is alive and well, last month I heard of several people who were infected again.

 No.9887

>>9886
Are you still forced to wear respirators?

 No.9888

CaliforniaXi.png (2.61 MB, 1104x2167)

Streets full of stinky hobos are actually cool. Parents can point to them and tell children "That's what will happen to you if you play computer games".

 No.9889

>>9887
Yeah ofc, Germans are obedient weaklings, they just kept wearing them afraid of being thrown into jail. Germans never do a revolution, everything has to come from top down.

Before I will be sentenced to 5 years in heaven for spreading misinformation to a Russian, I want ti clarify here that some people wear masks but most people stopped long ago and it is not mandatory.

 No.9891 KONTRA

>>9888
Son of Heaven visits province on the outskirt, barbarian officials scramble to save face and impress him.
Indeed it is said that a man of noble character improves his surrounding by his mere presence, as he radiates out de onto the xiaoren.

 No.9892

>>9888
I'll have to preface my post with the following statement, which, for some reason, feels like it has a controversial tone nowadays, even though it follows from the basic bitch tenets of liberalism: hobos are citizens just like anyone else, and they have a right to be in public spaces, for any reasons, at any time of day, week, month or year, without having to justify themselves, like any other legal citizen.

I have to explicitly point out this completely obvious (to a civilized person) notion, because post-sovok liberahas have a strange relationship with the western political idology.
Post-sovok liberahas tend to think of themselves as enlightened progressives, but if you were to present their opinions to the average westoid, they'd be identified as further right than any official right wing party in any of the western countries. To a post-sovok liberaha, "to be like in west" means that there's ordnung, no trash, homeless or brown people on the streets, trains come on time, plenty of lebensraum, etc.
Maybe this is because post-sovok liberahas live in a civilization that went straight from feudalism to socialist experiment to free market oligopoly, so they don't culturally grasp the "spirit" of liberalism. Or maybe it's because being exposed only to the external image and results of liberalism, but not the whitewashed philosophy of liberalism, they, ironically, identify it for what it is: "fascism with a human face". The problem being that instead of recoiling in horror, they say "YES! This is what we want! Yay liberalism! Sieg Hail1".

So, a post-sovok liberaha is basically a vatnik in the western political compass. The westoid liberal thinks that homelessness should be dealt with by making housing affordable, so that the homeless are no longer homeless. The liberaha believes that homeless people should be forcefully removed from premises to maintain an image of civility. The difference is obvious.

ALL OF THAT SAID, this entire narrative about homeless people being removed ahead of Xi's visit is basically US conservative media psy-op.
What actually happened is that Xi's visit caused certain streets to be cordoned off, and increased police presence in those areas, which caused the homeless to "voluntarily" move somewhere else, because homeless people and drug addicts understandably don't like the police that much. So, the "homeless problem" wasn't "solved", the homeless simply went a couple blocks away from where the cordon is.
And even this description implicitly agrees with the premise that the solution to the homeless problem is getting rid of them somehow, rather than, you know, giving them homes / a place to live in. They imagine that the solution to homelessness is having police patrolling the city 24/7 beating up and dispersing homeless people wherever they are seen.

So, by smugly reposting the "Xi's visit has solved homelessness in SF" headline, you are basically knowingly or unknowingly spreading the following propaganda:
1) the "homeless problem" is that the homeless people are around, not that there are people with no homes
2) homeless people should have no rights despite being citizens, because they own no property
3) the solution to homelessness is not affordable housing, it is "getting rid of the homeless", by way of police beating and scaring them away until the libshit middle class doesn't have to see them any more
4) we should increase police presence and control in the cities, so that every street has the same concentration of police every day, as the main streets during a visit by foreign dignitary
5) solution to all societal problems is just more violence

etc etc. this makes you a rube and a reactionary vatnik-by-proxy.
what liberahas truly want is right-wing conservatism, except while in a country and socioeconomic class that benefits from it.
the ultimate thesis of the post-sovok liberaha thought: "I wish I was white".

 No.9893

>>9892
>What actually happened is that Xi's visit caused certain streets to be cordoned off, and increased police presence in those areas, which caused the homeless to "voluntarily" move somewhere else, because homeless people and drug addicts understandably don't like the police that much. So, the "homeless problem" wasn't "solved", the homeless simply went a couple blocks away from where the cordon is.


Oh you crazy old lady, having visions again about how society functions? Solve the homeless problem by giving people shelter?
Having made clear what I think of your rational thoughts I have to reveal what few people know: homeless people are the hidden entrepreneurs nobody talks about. They organize their life from nothing and totally alone. These people manage to build homes from rubbish, I don't see spoiled fatasses like the people frequenting this board building their own homes. The difference is that only spoiled people with loads of advantages from birth are lauded these days.

 No.9894 KONTRA

>>9892
Ironically your own description outs you as an illiberal because you ascribe homelessness to purely socioeconomic factors instead of the failure of a given individual to adapt to said factors.
As a Homosos you have failed to take individualism into the equation.

THAT BEING SAID: Even during AES homelessless was only eradicated through violence. The police literally dragged you off to work and so on. Work wasn’t a right, it was a duty.
The housing supply isn’t the only part of this problem. Some people need violence to conform to norms and lead a stable life.
If you gave most of these hobos a house they’d first live it down and then sell it. A lot of them have no interest in “returning to society”.

 No.9895 KONTRA

Real Liberalism has never been tried before.

 No.9896

>>9893
Fuck off schizo

>>9894
>If you gave most of these hobos a house they’d first live it down and then sell it. A lot of them have no interest in “returning to society”.
And that's a good thing (tm).
I never implied that it's a problem if certin people prefer to live on the streets. It's theit right as citizens. If Xi doesn't like what the citizens of the Free World(tm) like to do on the streets of their own god damn city, he can fuck off.

But if you want to reduce homelessness, giving homes to the homeless would probably do it, since "principled homeless" are a minority, and most people don't choose to be homeless, despite what rightoids would like you to believe. Similar to how most people woild prefer to have a decent job rather than be on welfare, despite what rightoids would like you to believe.

>"affordable housing would solve homelessness "

>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 0.0001% OF PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO BE HOMELESS
midwit take

 No.9897 KONTRA

>>9896
Actually you are the midwit idealist if you think these people could or want to adapt to living normally. Very few think of their homelessness on ideological terms, but most of them wouldn’t be able to lead a normal life no matter the handout.

Also them shitting up public spaces infringes on the rights of the rest of society to use these spaces properly.
Public space doesn’t mean that I get to shit it up whenever I want.

 No.9898

>>9897
You're just conjuring up an image of a mythical person who'd rather sleep in the gutter under the rain than have a roof over their head because you are a reactionary who dehumanizes and others people less fortunate than himself, to justify the status quo, simple as.

 No.9899


 No.9901

>>9896
>Fuck off schizo

Im actually the leftist media studies (ex) student

>>9897
Return to your books. And since you don't know anything about these people from experience you saw them from a distance doesn't count you could at least read up on them.

 No.9902 KONTRA

>>9895
We live under real liberalism with conservative tendencies what else, duh

 No.9904

>>9902
What do Chinese live under?

 No.9905 KONTRA

>>9904
The same, just with more authoritarianism added to the mix. What dogs are you trying to elicit from behind the oven with such a post (and to use a german proverb here).

 No.9906 KONTRA

>>9901
Oh, GOD, you're so smart and so insightful and so morally superior to us lowly edgy chuds.
And all while being completely unspoiled and having no advantages from birth, unlike those oligarch tier post-sovok oligarchs.
I wish I were you.
Your posts are a big reason why the Today thread has become so uncomfy

 No.9907

>>9906
At least somebody acknowledges my merit. It was about time. Thank you, enraged Ernst.

Your statement about the today thread is NOT true, in case you wonder what I think

 No.9908

>>9906
Also confusing objectivity with morality is a grave mistake, lol.

Let the bickerings begin

 No.9910

>>9892
You assumed a lot of things about me, mostly wrong. What I wanted to see is how Lisa (tiktok-German) will react to such post. On the one hand, China is hecking based. On the other hand, disorder is hecking based. Dilemma.
Maybe I should've done this more explicitly. Like this:

>>9802
What do you think they do to people engaged in vandalism of public places in China?

 No.9911 KONTRA

>>9909
>You assumed a lot of things about me, mostly wrong

I assumed nothing, but ok. Your little pictures does not even compare the same commodities, just shut up lol.

>hurr dürr what will they do to vanndals?


Well what do they do? Something grave punishment I assume from your rhetoric questionning. But I don't understand what you actually want from me. You obviously want to expose some double standards even though Im not sure which double standards you assume I have. Why don't be precise for once and use clear words instead of rhetorical magic tricks like a postmodernist.

 No.9912 KONTRA

>>9908
>Also confusing objectivity with morality is a grave mistake, lol.
Opinions are always subjective, you drank too much of your own kool-aid.

 No.9913 KONTRA

Today my calligraphy was shown to the rest of the class as an example of how to write characters.
A strong year is a Chinese year.

 No.9914 KONTRA

>>9912
That's a crazy counterattack bro

 No.9915

>>9892
Since you made such an effortpost, I feel obliged to reply seriously. My actual thoughts on the issue are that:
1. Clean, hygienic, and safe public places are very good.
2. Is it acceptable to infringe personal liberties in favor of that? Sometimes yes, pls no stinky hobos in crowded trains.
3. But in general problem should be solved with welfare, such as free toilets and shower rooms, psychiatric help to schizos good question is when it can be involuntary and so on.
Yes, a boring centrist opinion.

> What actually happened is that Xi's visit caused certain streets to be cordoned off

These two version are not empirically distinguished because if authorities wanted to save face in front of XI, they would use same excuse.

On your rant about postsovok liberals. Depends on how you define this group. People not in favor of current authorities and not being distinct communists or nazis or libertarians? Or circlejerk of "professional liberals" on Americans gibs? Or something else?

>>9911
I replied to wrong post initially, it's about Brick's assumptions.

 No.9916

>>9913
Such an innocent post, almost childlike while zhe ugly adults are fighting over bullshit again.
Be careful, this archievement is not going to your head, also stay down to earth 叔叔

 No.9917

>>9916
It's alright, I find that throughout my academic time, I'll either get high on success and strive for top place or become despodent and stop caring. So far we are doing good.

Re: Homelessness
The real solution is the synthesis of all the ideas posted above. Harm reduction, social programs and a robust welfare state, intervention in the housing market, a functioning healthcare system to ensure the mentally ill are looked after and of course reactionary violence to disperse congregations of the homeless

 No.9922

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Me observing the thread

 No.9924

>>9888
>>9892
>>9915
This "making a good and false impression" is pretty common and idiotic. china does it as well, if >>8840 3.png is right. (afaik they plant "stones" so aerial satellite pictures give the impression of a working agriculture)


about the homeless problem:

yes, there are a few individuals preferring that kind of lifestyle. but those are very few and far apart.
america is prolly the country with the biggest homelessness problem. i don't know exact statistics, but even most 3rd world countries manage to house their population somehow. sure, some african tribes still prefer to live in their mud hut, because the "western sponsored" modern buildings are inhabitable in that climate. and yes, there are quite huge slums in other countries. but other countries usually go like "meh, let 'em be for now. if we need that space, we gonna remove 'em." e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City

a public space should be clean, yes. even homeless people should be able to clean up after themselves. if they don't do it? well, this forced public labor could be an option? I don't know the legal term, and the term prolly differs depending on country.
if a space becomes a "problem zone" because of too many people living or frequenting a certain public space, I really do not believe that "force" is a lasting solution. you just push that problem to a different location. [with some exceptions, of course]

the problem I see with american homelessness is the following:
there seems to be no intention to help them. once you've reached a certain point, nobody cares about you anymore. additionally there are a looooot of things that can push you to that point without being at fault whatsoever. e.g. an illness or accident because of lacking public healthcare.
most of american homeless people are in there because they either lost a job and didn't find another one "quick enough" or they got hit by health-care bills. i think the health-care bills are statistically the biggest part of homeless people in america, but i might be wrong here. there are not a lot of people interested in helping the american homeless. people prefer to buy empty houses as an investment and let them deteriorate. you need people actually using the house in order for it to deteriorate slower? welp, not in my houses. I won't give anyone free living space, even if it is beneficial for both of us.
And, holy shit, america has soooo many empty houses. way more than the homeless population would need. but no, they prefer to build a golf course next to a whole empty settlement, which nobody, ever, gonna use, because it increases the property value.


PROFIT is written with all capital letters. the problem? maximum profit only ever happens if no human in the whole profit chain is involved. no salary, no boni, no wages. once the top dogs of most companies are replaced by A.I. we will finally get to the pure profit stage of capitalism. no need to give any human any coin anymore.
the whole of america will become homeless, "persons" in the form of companies directed by A.I. will own all houses and living spaces.

 No.9925 KONTRA

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 No.9932

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>>9925
Rothbard produced nothing but word farts and talks about being a productive member of society.

 No.9933

>>9917
The real solution to homelesness, and all other problems really, is to kill the bourgeoisie, and it'll just all take care of itself after that.

 No.9935

>>9933
> kill the [...]
if we start killing and want to get rid of homelessness, why don't we just kill all the homeless?

Seems to be a lot more of a direct approach compared to killing some other group of humans.
Sure, the bourgeoisie deserves to die a lot more, but killing them doesn't seem to be particular solution oriented in this case - more like solving the homelessness problem is a nice byproduct.

 No.9936

>kills bourgeoisie
>plebs doesn't know how to produce anything more complex than a chair
>society collapses in ans months
<bums finally left the streets

 No.9937 KONTRA

>>9933
Typical eastoid. Resorting to pogroms and killing as a solution.
From the Oder to Kamchatka, this thinking is prevalent and the cause of why these territories have been lagging behind in development.

 No.9946

>>9935
You get more bang for your buck by killing the bourgeoisie.

>>9936
>bourgeoisie
>producing anything
funny joke
pure ideology
and so on

>>9925
Agree with pic except with academics instead of bums

 No.9949 KONTRA

>>9946
So true bestie

 No.9950

>>9935
Why not give the homeless weapons and ask them to kill the bourgoise? After that, the cops will remove the homeless from the premises.
Two stones with one bird (or something like that).

 No.9951

>>9950
Why not give everyone guns and watch them killing each other? Oh, wait, that's already how it is in USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qF5NU-ehU

 No.9952 KONTRA

Proponents of 亂, the lot of you.
You make the 名 非正 by now applying the 法。
天 will not be happy about this.

 No.9953 KONTRA

>>9949
And he complains about disorder in the today thread with posts like these. Be honest, do you consider academics to be "productive members of society"?

 No.9954 KONTRA

The whole point is that you can’t give everyone a free house, but you sure as shit can remove the homeless from frequented areas with police force, and most people would be happy to not have drunkards and junkies on their streets.
The whole reason people are mad is because for decades this was a problem that the cities in the US are unwalkable because of the hobos and all it took in actuality is just a miniscule amounts of utilized force to improve security and aesthetic in the are for the benefit of literally everyone who uses those public spaces, which sure as shit is better for society at large than caring about the rights of people who keep existing in permanent intoxication below society.
Nobody cares about hobos besides bleeding-heart leftist cretins and if you are not that, you are just signalling your virtue that you are not an evil fascist like me who values order instead of the “rights” of a strata of people who are objectively a net negative on every sense of the word for society at large.
Removing them with the police is the lowest investment with the highest return at the lowest risk, while “helping them” in the current economic framework is expensive, risky and of dubious benefit, not to mention unjust if you consider that we’d essentially be rewarding failure.
The rehabilitation, or rather reof the homeless is only possible in an authoritatian system or with authoritarian methods.

 No.9956

>>9954
>you can’t give everyone a free house
why not lol

 No.9957

>>9954
It's not about rights (there is no such human right to draw graffiti in train or to shoplift), they like chaos itself as the German admitted. Different aesthetic coordinates.

Order is inherently fascist, dirty streets are antifascist and liberating.

 No.9958 KONTRA

I literally cannot believe people have a differing opinion on this than mine it’s unbelievable we’re even discussing this and it’s making me so fucking mad.

 No.9959 KONTRA

>>9958
You live in the suburbs of Budapest, basically you are a villager. Your train stations don't even have hobos.
People like you who basically don't work should not be allowed to judge other people for not working but who worked in the past and probably more useful things than you ever will.
Nobody will be surprised you have this attitude, you never seek out help, and you do everything alone. You grew up in a household that can fly to Milan for a day. How well can you estimate the life of people you don't know?

Besides this more epistemic argument you don't solve the problem, you simply push them somewhere else.
Let me give a clear comparison of how conservatives of that kind solves problems:

Your room is messy. You want it too look neat and tidy so you can enjoy it aesthetically and pleasure yourself for Ordnung.
In order to archive this, you just throw things in your cabinet and close the door. Et voila, problem "solved". But I'm not surprised you favor teenage "solution".

Nobody wants to be smelly, not even hobos. The cause for smelly hobos in your post is searched for in some sort of moral integrity, it's so funny what people think sometimes. It would be too funny if your father loses his job. Probably accountable to moral failure than. Just work harder, loser.
I read that Rothbard did not get up before noon for almost forty years and the first action was to call his buddy, and these people want to tell other people what is good for them and how they should become productive

 No.9962

>>9959
This Rothbard guy sounds an awful lot like Karl Marx from your description.

 No.9963

>>9962
I don't think Karl Marx lectured homeless people on being productive. Prove me otherwise though.

 No.9964 KONTRA

>>9963
You may have noticed that the problem is not getting up only after noon. People working night shifts at the factory, harbour, emergency services do this as well.

 No.9965 KONTRA

>>9959
My (my family's) material conditions are meaningless in this regard.
Boo hoo, a low-cost carrier ticket bought months in advance is the peak of luxury.
We've had our ups and downs. A lot of downs. I'm not gonna feel ashamed that we have ups too.

>>9962
This wasn't the gotcha you think it is.

 No.9966

>>9965
I wasn't shaming you for being materially better off than others but that is what people tend to make of it thinking within a moral framework, no surprises here. It was an argument about your epistemic abilities.

 No.9967 KONTRA

>>9966
Well, I guess that means I failed because I didn't show any willingness to be emphatic and make a mental model of a homeless person to place myself into.
It's over.

 No.9968

>>9966
>I wasn't shaming you
...and this, kids, is what we call a bold-faced LIE!

 No.9969 KONTRA

>>9967
Go to your room, kek.
now I'm shaming you

 No.9970

>>9951
I giggled more than I should have.
> their houses blow down very easily
at least one true sentence was said in that propaganda master piece.

Now I kind of want a cup of snow with some birds to snack on.

>>9957
> graffiti
I might be superimposing my ideology here and misinterpreting said circle. There are also differences within the group, just like with the "vegan"-elites and "casual-vegans".
Afaik one of the main points to justify graffiti always has been something along
> if you allow advertising in public spaces - forcing us plebs to look at and consume the propaganda of the capitalist fascist - you should expect us plebs to fight back with art and you have no moral ground to oppose this.
and because of this self proclaimed higher moral ground the plebs are standing on, they also have certain areas/walls which are "fair game" and other things/buildings which are "protected via prior significance" (e.g. actually pleasant architecture, historical meaningful, [...])
but most importantly: do not dare to paint over someone else's graffiti!! (unless it is ugly and yours is not)
concretely it turns out to be: pretty much every concrete wall or modern building where the design principle was "function over form and esthetics".
I know some cities have restricted the advertisement space allowed after their population demanded it ("It be ugly, yo. Remove plz. ty. thx. bb"). Would be interesting to know if their costs for removing graffiti went down as well. Maybe it was even financially profitable to restrict advertisements? It might very well be that this argument of "it's cause of ads!" is just an excuse and reducing ad space had/has no effect on graffiti whatsoever

>>9953
> Be honest, do you consider academics to be "productive members of society"?
I know that wasn't directed at me, but I mentioned a few times that there is "science" *cough* and science within academics.
Language specific academics I would categorize somewhere in between. It isn't actual science, but it doesn't pretend to be either; it's usually referred to as studies.

I consider "science" *cough* academics to be the exact opposite of productive. It is a waste of time while brainwashing those getting baited into studying it to believe they are actually learning something useful.

You need your normal labor/worker part of society which gets supported by machines and technology to enable other parts of your society to focus on different things like studies and science. Having the ability to finance and the spare time to invest into science is a crucial part of a productive society.
"science" *cough* are parasites eating up time and resources without producing anything. they are worse than hobos. hobos at least do not actively eat away at the productive part of society - they just passively do so via simply existing. this passive cost is inherent to any living being; including parasites.

 No.9971 KONTRA

>>9968
Conservatives are the biggest moral and virtue signaling people existing on this planet and yet they always find a way to deflect it on others. Why?

 No.9972 KONTRA

>>9971
>everyone calling me out on my hypocrisy is a conservative
talk about deflection lol, absolutely mindbroken and

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 No.9973

>>9972
You seem to be obsessed with me as a person, otherwise, I cannot explain why you always want to talk about me and not what I'm saying. Again, typical for people obsessed with morals.

 No.9974 KONTRA

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>>9970
>and other things/buildings which are "protected via prior significance" (e.g. actually pleasant architecture, historical meaningful, [...])
You place too much hope in the moral code of illiterate low IQs with a spray can.

>>9970
Of course, I'd end up summoning TikTok studies Ernst by trying to get the Hungarian to ponder about his own lack of productivity to society.
Whatever, productivity is gay anyways.

 No.9975 KONTRA

>>9973
We are all Ernst here and I don't even know you, so it's impossible to be obsessed with you "as a person". I tend to reply to idiotic posts, though...
Now keep deflecting more.

 No.9976

>>9974
>TikTok studies Ernst

Loud & Proud

I have my MA now. Imagine all the hard work it took for others to make it possible. I will continue to complain about these people polluting my environment with noise and aesthetically non-pleasing smells and looks, though. Sorry, not sorry!

 No.9977 KONTRA

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>>9975
> tend to reply to idiotic posts

Just think of all the hobos we could have evicted from the streets and sent to a place where we cannot see them anymore we could build them a nice camp, don't you think :DDD with the energy you used on writing these posts. It's a shame.

This will play when the (socialist EU) degenerates bomb Hungary for crossing a socioeconomics threshold under orderly Orbanism!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdvpFIPReA

 No.9978

>>9963
Marx didn't like slackers either.

 No.9979

>>9978
I don't think Marx lived in 1920. Will you use appropriate pictures some time in the future or do I have to expect just more unrelated stuff?

 No.9980 KONTRA

>>9977
Oh honey, you're do prédictible

 No.9981

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Since the beggining of time, Mankind has been forced to compete for survival.

 No.9982

>>9970
addendum:
maybe, to signal that my "science" *cough* representation was intentionally exaggerated:
I believe there are pretty much only studies within this part of academia, which would support the following claim:
> Productivity isn't linked to financial profit or gain; the contrary seems to be the case. If you give person "too much" money for a certain task they tend to do a worse job compared to those that "just get enough" or even nothing and are left to themselves.
> For creative jobs/tasks it seems to be most productive to either have a very generous time frame or none at all. forcing "creativity" into a small predefined time frame doesn't produce satisfying results.
> Pure labor jobs without a significant need for mental engagement show signs of increased productivity when the option of financial gain is presented. This seems to be the only outlier where money can positively influence productivity. In every other case or scenario looked at it either had no effect or a negative effect on the productivity.
> Hence, we should establish a condition-less basic income for everyone. This would increase productivity, creativity and scientific advancements as a whole within our society. To ensure the lesser desired, but necessary labor jobs still are getting done, we should add significant financial gain for those deciding to carry this burden.

The problem here is:
well, studies... :/ pre-select your group to study and you get your desired result. add on top of that the burden to "produce results" because "nil-results" are frowned upon (less likely to be cited) and you have all those "science" *cough* people starting to P-hack their numbers in the direction of the result they want to produce.
Yes, every data point is somewhat useful. But, honestly, just give those "science" *cough* guys an unconditional basic income. If they still want to run around and ask random people about random stuff, let 'em do it. At least they are not inclined to alter their results because of the perceived pressure of academic success.

sometimes these "science" *cough* people fail hilariously. I remember a study ... [I've spend like 30+min finding it: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/ejsp.2331] where I laughed so hard, when I realized what they actually did.
tl;dr:
> we have a hard coded 50/50 distribution with this pseudo-random coin flip generator
[hard coded 50/50 means: if you get 50 times tails via very unlikely random chance, all following 50 flips are going to be head. so as soon as you have 50 of one, you can with 100% certainty predict the outcome of every following flip]
> people believing in conspiracy theories see a pattern within our pseudo random coin flips
> therefor conspiracy theorist are stupid and lack pattern recognition
...
they literally confirmed that their test had a fucking hard coded pattern to it. those not seeing any pattern are lacking pattern recognition. they basically confirmed that conspiracy theorist are intellectual superior while claiming and trying to prove the opposite.
[granted, their study is really crap and even their actual "result" is useless... but damn, those idiots can't even basic math and pattern recognition - and they want to tell other people how the world works? lul'd]

>>9974
> pic
Yeah. you cannot escape idiots, no matter how hard you try. there are always some idiots forcing themselves into your group of elites.

>>9976
> MA
Uhm... in "science" *cough*? Or what field did you study?

 No.9983 KONTRA

> Study shows society is happy with labor rights
> We've asked 503 people via phone, land-line, on Mondays between 9am and 11am and found the following: [...]
...
> mondays
> 09:00 to 11:00
> at home

sure as hell didn't ask the proletariat. those have been on their labor job site at that time.

 No.9984 KONTRA

>>9983
Heartless German housewifes saying that everything is fine on the labor front, demanding longer hours. Evil.

 No.9990

>>9983
>503 people
>society
lawl

 No.9992

>>9990
> what is sampling?

 No.9993

>>9992
Worthless if your sample size is too small

 No.9996

>>9993
500 is big enough. If I remember correctly, mathematical expectation of error of sampling equal to dispersion of variable divide sqrt(sample size), so it must be somewhere around +-1% in our case.

Maybe it's not 87% of German housekeepers who say that their husband doesn't work enough. But 85%-90% is a solid estimation.

 No.9997

>>9990
you should lurk some humanitarian science study papers.
if you can't find the sample size at the very top of the paper, you can be sure the read is not worth your time. and if it is mentioned in the very beginning, you will be amazed at "usual" sample sizes.
Considering how many studies and papers are produced currently, you would be spammed 24/7 with questions in order to reach "a representative sample size". since you are not, it is save to say most of these publications main function is to be used as bog paper.

This is all only about the "science" *cough* done in good faith.

There was another incident recently (too lazy to look up source, sry.) where some harvard cancer bitch got cited a ton because "oha! those are some interesting finds!" and people tried to reproduce her studies, but couldn't. After a while some actual scientist looked at the data she provided with her papers and found a looot of plainly and obviously inserted or altered data points. without these data points all her studies would have been nil-results, like every other study got. [iirc usually around ~5 to 10 data points per study, which was enough to alter the result in the desired direction]
She still managed to get quite the prestige and fame beforehand; I think she is still teaching at harvard.
And to be 100% clear here, this was very easy to proof, because that bitch was fucking stupid and didn't know anything about data. on top of that she got too much fame which led people to try to reproduce the studies, else nobody would have ever thought about looking at her data a little closer and it needed scientist from another field to look over the presented data to even find those obvious manipulations.
That bitch isn't an exception. She just was exceptionally stupid. P-Hacking is very, very wide spread in humanitarian science and nobody even bothers to verify findings/results of others in most cases (you are not getting cited for such a paper). You can pretty much always find a study with a result you desire. If you can't find one? Create your own.

It's a fucking joge.

If you try to be faithful? Well, you are gonna produce mainly nil-results, leading to a low citation count, leading to "you are a bad scientist". I think in some cases it is right to blame the person, e.g. the harvard bitch, but in most cases our current "system" is to blame, which mainly focuses on citation count as indicator of "good science". That is also why, although I know there are some good scientist within that field, I don't really bother about those and just portray the whole humanitarian science as cancer; there is a fundamental problem.

And you can't have actual scientist look over every crap those humanitarian science idiots produce in order to falsify their data/numbers/math. In that case we wouldn't be able to do actual science anymore, because humanitarian science is shit posting constantly.

I've switched to pretty much only reading case studies in that field of research. with the exception of huge fuck-ups or papers that reinforce my already existing believes :3 Everything else isn't worth the ink+paper or screen space+energy.

 No.9998 KONTRA

>>9997
also what
>>9996
said.

 No.10007

>>9997
>>9899
#TrustTheScience

 No.10009 KONTRA

>>9982
>Uhm... in "science" *cough*? Or what field did you study?

I'm at the lowest level of the pyramid, frenchified humanities pseudo science. So not "science" but "science"

 No.10011 KONTRA

We had a pretty good thread during the past few days. It's surprising how strong of a litmus test such an everyday topic can be.

Yesterday during an evening class the lecturer had a copy of Schlink's "Der Vorleser" on the desk and I couldn't help it but read into it sideways while he was explaining something on the whiteboard, but he probably saw it and pushed the book in front of me after he sat down. I read the first two chapters and said that I think it was very touching. As it turns out when I said I liked it based on the first couple of pages, he didn't believe me. Apparently I always have a sly smile on my face while talking, which makes it hard for people to decide if I'm making some elaborate ironic remark or telling the truth.

Today I went to the doctor and nothing interesting happened. Got the meds and then I went home after a short grocery trip. I had lunch and then fell asleep until like 7.
Reading the Zhuangzi.

 No.10012

>>10011
> It's surprising how strong of a litmus test such an everyday topic can be.
Litmus test for what?

 No.10013 KONTRA

>>10012
I will leave that up to your interpretation to allow the thread to go into new and interesting directions as we discuss governance methods and ethics and the state of the academics and sciences in a serious manner.

 No.10014

Autistic people talking about morals and ethics. Always fascinating. And worrying.

 No.10015

>>9983
There's no proletariat in the first world in the first place, only labor aristocrats and petit bourgeoisie.

They should ask the people who make their clothes instead.

 No.10016 KONTRA

I'm drunk,.

 No.10021

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Saw someone smoking a cigarette yesterday. An actual cigarette. With fire and smoke. Can't recall the last time that happened. Months? Years? Everybody vapes and the change seems to have happened practically overnight.

 No.10023

>>10021
Praised be Europe where people still smoke actual cigs in bulk.
Vaping has become popular though. But I'm also under the impression vapes are popular with certain socio-cultural segments, that is people that visit mass discos and not underground techno clubs. But that might be a warped perception by social media content I'm getting. Back when I went to those techno parties people where smoking cigs and my friends and people they know (who still party) still often smoke cigs and don't vape in almost all cases.

 No.10024

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Well dressing people tend to offend, because they are intimidating to others by dressing well


t. thefashionablefather

 No.10025 KONTRA

>>10024
TechnoErnst, how elaborate are your outfits? Do you just post these esoteric sets or do you actually dress similar's?

 No.10026 KONTRA

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>>10025
similar's but probably still different enough to see a difference. I don't dress as extravagantly as a Balenciaga model.

Second pic shows a coat in a similar style for example to what I wear but I have dress pants that are like the one from the >>10024 just not as wide leged, though wide.

 No.10027

*ominous fashionable chanting in the distance*

 No.10028

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 No.10031

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>The education of the average American child of the upper middle class is such as to guard him solicitously against the awareness of death and doom. He is brought up in an atmosphere of Santa Claus; and when he learns that Santa Claus is a myth, he cries bitterly. Indeed, he never fully accepts the removal of this deity from his Pantheon, and spends much of his later life in the search for some emotional substitute.

Have you been raised American, Ernst? How did you substitute?

 No.10032

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>>10031
What substitute is that supposed to be? And who wrote this? Sounds like some fart-huffing wiener.

 No.10033 KONTRA

>>10032
You googled it but had no clue, don't you?

 No.10034

>>10033
I assumed you'd get my subtle joke, but it was probably too subtle.

 No.10036

>>10031
I am still recovering from emotional damage inflicted by the Santa Clause Deception®.

Funny that I don't recall ever being told it was all a lie. There are memories when I believed, and memories where I knew the truth, but no clear moment of transition. Was there a conversation or do parents just wait for kids to figure it out? Like watching wrestling. You don't have to be told it is scripted; keep tuning in and the penny eventually drops. A piledriver would kill someone, there is no way that guy just kicked out on 2.

 No.10037

>>10036
Is it really a thing in the US?
I don't remember ever thinking that the Christkind was "real", as in "some girl angel comes to my house to place presents", and I don't remember ever being distraught or anything after learning it were indeed my parents placing the presents.
Could be though that at least in our house the adults always talked about this with this air of "*wink wink*".
What I just now remember though is when was 6 or 7 and I thought I had found out the place my parents hid the presents, so I hid in that room for who knows how many hours (and I might or might not have fallen asleep at some point) while they were gone - what I suspected - buying presents, but they never came in there.

 No.10038

>>10037
>Christkind
Lol Austrians. Kill yourself, Catholic. You are not German, but slav.

 No.10039

>>10038
In my family different members said either Weihnachtsmann or Christkind, I did not care who brought the presents as long as they did arrive, though. I wasn't autistic yet. not that I care now what the imaginary entity is called

 No.10041

>>10028
>no chanting at all
0/10, you should be ashamed of yourself
Here, let me salvage this epic fail of yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-z6u5hFgPk

 No.10042


 No.10044

Why is phrenology so effective? Because many things (from genes and hormones to environment and our habits) affect both our behavior and our appearance.

 No.10047

>>10044
Uh, Ernst, phrenology was dismissed as quackery 160 years ago.

 No.10054 KONTRA

>>10023
> underground techno clubs
nigga, plz.
the party only starts after the police stole your first set of sub woofers and you get out the new ones.

 No.10056

skibidi

 No.10057 KONTRA

>>10044
Phrenology is bullshit but physiognomy unironically works.

 No.10058 KONTRA

>>10057
It's too late, you didn't delete your X, formerly known as Twitter, account soon enough. Now you actually post about physiognomy and killing the homeless.
Everything is in disorder.

 No.10060

>>10058
Nah he's just going to be a Yoppie - a young Orban professional

 No.10061

>>10036
Here is one more data point for you:
The charade was never attempted in my family and I don't have memories of believing santa was real.

 No.10065

>>10047
And heliocentric model was dismissed as heresy 500 years ago. Maybe it's time for us to abandon old prejudices?

 No.10066

>>10054
>and you get out the new ones.

to get them taken away by the police again? Sounds not very clever.


t. attendee of several illegal outdoor raves ~10 years ago

 No.10067


 No.10069 KONTRA

I wasted most of the day. At the last pepper I harvested. Later in the evening I attended a calligraphy workshop we organised at college and I utterly failed at producing anything resembling proper writing despite trying my hardest.
But in the end I guess I did have fun doing it. I almost got it down right. Just another 5 or so hours and I could write it perfectly with the brush consistently probably.

It was kind of cold outside so I put on a winter hat. Also switched over to a thicker scarf. I have fond memories of this one. I remember my mother bought it for me when we went out for groceries and I just liked it a lot and it was two bucks so we got it.

No concrete plans for tomorrow. I just want to have a good lunch and read some more and study. Won't have the time to go to the library most probably.
Also maybe I'll get a picture frame because the master calligrapher that taught us did make me a piece and I want to frame it to finally have something Chinese-calligraphy related in my room.

>>10058
>It's too late, you didn't delete your X, formerly known as Twitter, account soon enough.
This sentence is unreasonably funny 2bh.
Actually I've been spending a lot less time on X, formerly Twitter, recently. Even though I now have over 500 followers.

 No.10073

Always a weird twilight zone moment when you're exposed to another country's internal propaganda.

 No.10074

>>10073
You're acting as if you weren't spending your whole online time on the american internet.

 No.10075

>>10074
We're all living in america, so that doesn't count.

 No.10076 KONTRA

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> 𝕏
oh, did the man child sell the platform again?

i posted once on twitter after ~3 years of having an account and not a single time on ⨯xⓍ🅇𝒳𝔛XⅩ
or is that a form of Х as in хахаха
i think i have around 500 followers as well. mainly bots trying to get me to join some crypto or simp/catfish discord/telegram.

 No.10079

>>10075
Amerika ist wunderbar

 No.10080

>>10073
I wanted to read Kazakhstan history textbook and see how they explain their history to themselves but all Orys versions I've found are of shitty quality =(

 No.10089

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>>10076
>oh, did the man child sell the platform again?

I don't really follow the whole thing, but i think he's trolling jews and leftist Palestine supporters at the same time and makes mad all right now.

I don't like him at all but he might change that right now.

 No.10090


 No.10091 KONTRA

>>10089
>I don't like him at all but he might change that right now.
That’s such a brainlet way of looking at life, honestly.
Are you stuck in 2016? Is making people mad sufficient for you to like someone?

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 No.10093

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Man I dislike muslims as everyone else, but this "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" propaganda Israel is pulling is the cringiest thing imaginable.

 No.10094

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 No.10096

We should focus on the positive side of things and build an EC with a humanity with a shared future.

 No.10097

>>10091
Isn't that your mindset?

Who will be surprised that the shizo likes based and red pilled Musk?

 No.10099

>>10096
Is this the EC version of "Krautchan should have more intelligent content and be a critical internet platform" or whatever the original quote was?

 No.10100

Portugal, did you read marxist texts as primary sources or does your knowledge stem from secondary sources mostly?

Any Ernst can chime and and correct me or second that philosophically materialism and historic materialism bases its whole philosophy and the simple observation that humans need to reproduce themelves and food and shelter etc that needs to be produced or made available in order to do so. What I want to say is that this stance comes from a sort of first principles thinking?

 No.10101

>>10100
Primary sources*.
*In more esoteric tomes. I never truly read Marx and only managed to read a single work by Lenin.

I found this today.
A New Asia by one Anton Zischka. What an interesting character this Zischka seemed to be. Allegedly successfully rebranding his work from one that serves the ideological efforts of the third reich to one about a united democratic Europe ridding itself of petrodollar imperialism. 1962 print (haha estado novo :DD) 1€, not bad.

 No.10102 KONTRA

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>>10101
Pictured: (Austrian) German diatribes. Maybe, it seems cool. Has a chapter on Uyghurs.

 No.10104

>>10102
the book market for opinions and popular non-fiction after WW2 is massive and for historians a sort of gold mine for source material.

 No.10105

>>10090
Thanks. I downloaded https://okulyk.kz/istorija-kazahstana/691/ and later noticed that .pdf was of shitty quality. But I forgot that there is also https://okulyk.kz/istorija-kazahstana/828/ and the file is of decent quality.

>>10093
> 1700138453001.jpg
This photo probably makes people mad so I like it.

>>10092
Don't understand what's written here.
t. ESL

 No.10106

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>>10089
Satire on the topic.

 No.10107

Heliocentric model was a mistake. Yes, humanity now can send rovers to Mars but is it worth that the foundations of our society have been destroyed? Same way physiognomy is effective and corresponds to objective reality but it's for the better that we pretend otherwise.

 No.10108

>>10107
I wonder what your face looks like.

Will neuro imagery and brain waves be looked upon the same way in the future?

 No.10112 KONTRA

Terraria is one fucking addicting game. But I’m halfway done with my playtrough I think. It’s interesting how I feel like I now grasp the mechanics more in their totality. Save for maybe potion making. But minecarts and fishing I finally get.
I cleaned up the room a bit. Gonna vacuum tomorrow.
Did some stretches.

I really wish I had something spicy to eat. Like a bag of chips that makes me chug water. Don’t know why.
Had a mug of chocoa. Very nostalgic stuff. Can’t remember the last time I had one.

 No.10113

What is worse: Youtube comment section of a popular video or Steam Forum of a popular game?
I find I can ignore the normie stupidity of yt comments far easier than the aggressive retardation of gaym0rs.

 No.10114

Just watched this video about changes in world order and increase of war:

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QbU2eKFEfrY ( https://youtube.com/watch?v=QbU2eKFEfrY )

I'm posting it here because I enjoyed the clarity of the answers (and also of the questions), which is something I also admired about Hararis books. He sometimes reminds me of the Chomksy from 15 years ago, who told interviewers he was an anarchist and immediately explained to them what that means in the most neutral manner - before he could be cornered in any way.

What I find interesting in particular about Harari is how he can make a statement that I would usually disagree with, but the way he does it causes me to instead consider if there could be something to it, but - and this is the important part - without the feeling of being manipulated/influenced.

Anyway, thought some of you could find value in this as well. Hope you're all having a good day.

 No.10116 KONTRA

>>10113
I'd much rather read "specialised retardation" of gamers personally than to be subjected to terrifyingly cliché, endless normie gotchas and personal stories that are the youtube comments under any video.
But then again, I've never once visited the Steam forums.

 No.10118

>>10113
>>10116

I give both posts a 8.2 on the gaymOre-Elite Scale

 No.10119

>>10113
>>10116

I give both posts a 8.2 on the gaymOre-Elite Scale

 No.10120 KONTRA

>>10118
>>10119
I give both posts a 2/2 on the retard scale

 No.10121

>>10120
Technical difficulties, son.

 No.10122

>>10116
>But then again, I've never once visited the Steam forums.
Then why even reply? You're like a virgin writing about what penis in vagina feels like.
Dumb zoomer smh cap fr

 No.10123 KONTRA

>>10113
As a person who reads German bickering for fun, I naturally enjoy reading steam forums. Combination of passion for a game and mental illness make the funniest arguments.

 No.10124

Do Hungary's parents vote for Fidezs?

>>10123
GaymOres have a prevalence for a Germanic gen strand. Even phonetically this is plausible. German and Gamer

 No.10125

>>10114
actually decent video,

which triggered my shizo-senses and now i have to shitpost.

In the attached graph taken from the video you can see a big spike at ~11th of september 2001 in "violence against civil population" while "violence by non-state groups" goes down. I've done excessive "science" *cough* asking people how they interpreted the habbenings of said day. I've found that ~98% of all people questioned either find it highly likely or even strongly believe, that the habbenings can be titled as an "inside job". I don't know how much my selection of individuals asked, my selection of words, my method of information gathering or other factors influenced this result. It was done in casual conversations with familiar and random people. After the fall of the twin towers a text got put into law, which even the world record holder in speed typing wouldn't be able to write in that time frame, as a "reaction".

I think it is save to say that the global consensus is, that USA attacked it's own population in order to force laws into existence.

.

My hypothesis regarding the topic of the video:
this habbening from 2001 crushed all confidence of the global world in USA being a suitable candidate as singular upholder of the "liberal world order". After the rise of non-state, but secretly state-funded groups where are the weapons and enhancing drugs coming from? around ~2010, it didn't take long for other states to say "fuck it." and return to violence as a valid tool.

If you have an unipolar position and abuse it, your position doesn't hold for long.
They fucked it up themselves.

.

i might also just trauma-fag here and have a seriously warped perception. i wanted to watch a japanese anime and it got interrupted. Left a serious trauma, because "How dare you interrupt my kids show for a few americans while there are african kids starving and a lot of bigger catastrophes nobody ever mentions?!"

 No.10126

>>10124
Do you think they want Hungary to be subservient to Germany/Brussels? With propaganda from Soros?

Orbán Victor keeps Hungary clean and free from western bullshits and keeps away foreigners! Without him, Hungarians would spent their money on a unwinnable war against Russia while having nothing, like Germans! They would be out of gas and it of jobs, like Germans!

You have no right to criticize anything a balkanite thinls or does, German exploiter! Germany is a colonial power in eastern Europe worse than Russia ever was! Everything was better under communism! Germany even broke up Yugoslavia so they could colonize it! Every schoolbook now claims that communism was bankrupt, but why do all post-communist countries today have bigger debts than in 1990, while people live worse? It is because imperialistic Germany exploits them and presses everything out of them! This is the only way capitalism can ever work!

Even in the 1960s, Germany worked like that! The German workers pretended to work during the day, and the actual work was done by gastarbeiter at night!

at least that's what I learned from conversations with various eastern Europeans, partially from Hungary

 No.10127

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Ernst just did actual science:
Ernst took a dry spaghetti and applied opposing circular pressure on both ends, than pushed the ends together while allowing the spaghetti to influence the angle.

It broke into two.

Ernst thinks that he now has a better understanding of the structural integrity of nano-tubes used for medical applications (e.g. intravenous support).


the pot of pasta just boiled over while writing, brb - reducing the thermal energy induced

 No.10128 KONTRA

>>10127
It is not obvious to me that the spaghetti is a good analogy for carbon nano tubes. It might be, but I am a little sceptical.

 No.10130 KONTRA

>>10128
it's at least a lot easier to come by in bulk :^)

I wonder how people would react if I break carefully created carbon nano tubes as an evening activity, preferably not my own.

 No.10131 KONTRA

>>10124
No.
My father's political position is to hate with a passion whoever is in charge of the country and repeatedly call for their death.
Essentially he's an Anarcho-capitalist Nationalbolshevik, like a lot of people in this country. ("Fuck taxes, fuck the government, fuck oligarchs and fuck Gypsies")
He doesn't vote.

I don't know about my mother's views. She usually says 1-2 good things about female candidates and that's it.
General rule in the house is that we don't talk politics because my mother hates it.

 No.10132

>>10126
Let's see where Orban goes without the EU gibs he demands. Orban is the african refugee of the EU

 No.10133

>>10132
He is like a peasant milking someone else's cow in the meadow. If, for any reason, this is not possible anymore, he will just blame the cow for its bloody infected udder or the owner for not letting him continue to steal.

 No.10136

>>10131
>My father's political position is to hate with a passion whoever is in charge of the country and repeatedly call for their death.
Your father sounds like an incredibly reasonable and based man.

 No.10138

>>10131
My father tired of switching opinions in order to be against current thing. So he came to conclusion that it's Russian people (except him) who are the problem. And communists, Yeltsin and Putin are mere consequences of it. I think if he traveled a bit around the world, he would start to think that it's humanity in general which is hopeless. And if aliens contacted us, then dad would hate all carbon-based lifeforms.

It's his cope to blame all sufferings in life on some entity instead of accepting that universe is not ideal.

 No.10140

>>10138
My father is dead. His brother is prepping for the end of the world as we know it. He recently bought a giant battery and PV-roof system, so he can laugh at all of us idiots when the power goes out for good due to renewable energy. The irony of it seems to be lost on him. Since he is the more measured and calm of the two brothers, I do not even want to know what political believes my father would hold if he was alive.

 No.10142

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Saw a video of biden saying "if there was no Israel, we'd have to invent one", and instantly understood dialectical materialism in a zen-like moment.

the zen of dialectical materialism is contained in the attached image
compare this to the platonic idealist model (second image)

 No.10143

>>10125
My favorite conspiracy theorists says the same. World is inevitably moving towards globalization, unification and as consequence -- world government. Until recently there was a consensus that world government will be US-based, but America showed that it doesn't fit the role of world hegemon, especially when it instigated war in Europe by staging far-right coup in Ukraine.

So it's European Union which will lead the world. But before that, a lot of blood will be shed.

>>10142
> "if there was no Israel, we'd have to invent one"
The conspiracy theorist's take: US uses Israel to destabilize Middle East in order to prevent it's alliance with EU -- America's closest rival.

I don't get your words about zen.

 No.10144 KONTRA

>>10140
>The irony of it seems to be lost on him.
Protip: Only a very small minority of people is against renewables because they're renewables, they're against renewables because of the way the government is pushing that shit as some kind of panacea for an ever-growing population, along with the most pants-on-head retarded way of implementing it.
Then again, if your uncle is a looney and your father was a looney...

 No.10145

>>10143
> So it's European Union which will lead the world.
my inner Nostradamus says it's going to be the union of europe, which doesn't exist, yet, instead of the European Union.
Not sure if that one is a trustworthy source, thou.

 No.10149

>>10143
The fact that israel is israel is only incidental.
the fact that they are an ethnicity with this strange historical relation to western civilization, the religion and history of that ethnicity, the metaphysics, worldview, culture, cultural artifacts and customs of that religion, their connection to the middle east, real or purported, the relationship between judaism and islam, etc., etc., all these connection, this rich tapestry of relations and connections and similarities and irreconcilable differences, all this "lore" is just incidental. it all just happened to be so.
like the pattern on a scrambled rubik's cube, the colorful square faces happened to end up next to each other, but to understand HOW they ended up next to each other, you can't look at the colorful squares themselves

this is why idealist analysis fails. if there were no israel, it would have been invented, and we'd be dissecting a different tapestry of cultural, religious and ethnic relations.
but the material conditions and necessities that resulted in the creation of israel would have been the same.

you can look at the patterns of light dancing at the bottom of the pool, but to understand their movement, you must infer the shape of the water above.

plato got it backwards. the ideal emerges out of material circumstances, not the other way around.
funnily enough, the mistake seems to be the assumption, that it is easy to observe the material reality, but difficult to observe ideas. it is, in fact, the other way around - we live in a perceptual haze of ideas, images, stories, words, associations. it is more difficult to measure, observe, analyze and model, the shape of the material reality. ask any physicist.

 No.10150

this kind of dovetails into the idea of communism as secular christianity.

god is dead
therefore, we must build the kingdom of heaven, on earth.
because there is nowhere else that it can be built, precisely because there IS nowhere else.

 No.10151

*ominous political chanting*

 No.10152 KONTRA

>>10144
>the way the government is pushing that shit as some kind of panacea for an ever-growing population
In schizo-world, it was true.

 No.10153

>>10152
Yeah we do indeed live in a schizo-world

 No.10154 KONTRA

>>10153
Who is we lol

 No.10155 KONTRA

>>10154
According to you everyone

 No.10156

Mankind's destiny is among the stars.
This planet will soon perish and we must be able to ensure life's longevity.
We owe it to posterity to deliver them from this hell.

 No.10157

>>10156
Humanity will never leave the solar system.
This planet is all we have, and we will die along with it.
Like every human is given a limited amount of time to redeem their souls, so is humanity as a whole given a slice of time to accomplish its mission: build the kingdom of Heaven on Earth. That is the Test.
Like, it is explicitly written into the laws of the universe that entropy shall prevail, and everything shall disintegrate, all structure shall decohere, and all life shall perish, sooner or later. So what the fuck is this "preserving life" nonsense? You literally, explicitly can't do it, as written in Da Rule book of how existing works. ???. So clearly the mission of humanity is not to survive, because it's literally impossible. It must be something else. Like building the kingdom of heaven on earth, lol.

God made the Universe terrifyingly big, and mind-shatteringly empty. Suspiciously so. Almost to emphasize both our uniqueness, AND our fragility.
But in classic humoid fashion, instead of seeing this as a case for humility, we see it as a case for hubris.
"Look how empty the Universe is, clearly this is proof that there is no God, otherwise he'd have filled it with le heccin epic Aliums. We are so gonna conquer all of this lmao".
smh

 No.10158

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>>10156
Once more sad downstream from ideology of heliocentrism. Why care about out home planet, let's shit it to death and move to another one to destroy nature there.

 No.10159

>>10157
That's probably new and definitely great idea. You should found your own religion and organize church.

 No.10160

>>10156
t. Silicon Valley billionaire on hunt for new business models

 No.10161

>>10159
no thanks I'll shoot up a government building instead

 No.10162 KONTRA

>>10157
>This planet is all we have, and we will die along with it.
This is correct.
>Like every human is given a limited amount of time to redeem their souls
Wrong, we're going straight to hell. Yes, you too.

 No.10163

>>10157
Good post. Reinvigorated to toil tomorrow. Thank you.

 No.10164 KONTRA

>>10163
Ora et labora…

 No.10165

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My car's gas mileage dropped today. From 22.7 mpg to 22.6. So, it begins. By winter's end I will average under 20.

 No.10166

>>10162
>Wrong, we're going straight to hell. Yes, you too.
Hell does not exist. Prove me wrong.

 No.10167

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>>10160
>snapchat zoomie thinks the concept of space colonization was invented by Elon Musk
Many such cases, SAD!

 No.10168

>>10165
Why do americans always switch around all kinds of rates?
Distance per volume instead of volume per distance, time per distance instead of distance per time (what runners call "pace"), and so on. Is it just terminal contrarianism, like with insisting on using some special kind of imperial, AM/PM and writing dates in the most retarded way possible?

 No.10169

>>10166
Just buy a ticket to Uhryupinsk.

 No.10170

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>>10167
Where did I say these people invented it? Assume less, ask more would be my advice if you have to brazenly open your mouth to appear intelligent.

 No.10172

>>10108
> I wonder what your face looks like.
How do you imagine it based on my posts?

 No.10175

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>>10168
>Is it just terminal contrarianism
Yes.

 No.10177 KONTRA

>>10170
I just found it curious that it was the first thing you could think of.
But I expected this kind of reply, you're the german with a hateboner for tech bros who takes everything 110% seriously, aren't you?

 No.10178

>>10112
Managed to restrain myself from playing terraria successfully. Have bought it though, but seeing some friends of mine discussing about the endless updates and going back to play it for a few dozen hours each six months threw me off a bit. Seems like a excellent game, but I only have so much hundreds hours to waste. I think I know all the bosses. My father and my bro laptop talking about it in great length, it think I know about all the bosses and most mechanics just by listening meal discussions. Some games frighten me, I’ll never buy Victoria 3 or the next elder scrolls for this exact reason.

 No.10179 KONTRA

>>10177
Explain to me why I should hate the white male sexists with neoliberal racist believes whose claim to superiority is based on the knowledges they acquire during education being exploitable by capitalists? I see the autists with their limited narrow skillset in an irrelevant area strutting around campus when, objectively, they can do nothing but abstract! But abstraction is easy, every stupid little child can do that!

 No.10180

>>10179
Hey now, you're trying to come onto me?

 No.10181 KONTRA

I’ve been sick and stuck in bed for two weeks with some pauses. Shit.

 No.10182

>>10181
Bon rétablissement, is it the coof?

 No.10183

>>10182
Had a cold at first. Then most probably got Covid. This weekend the auto test was negative but I’m still pale as a ghost and want to vomit.

 No.10185

>>10179
Are you white?

 No.10187

>>10183
Sucks to hear.
It seems to me that especially younger people seem to get hit really hard by it lately.
Had a younger colleague who also completely floored while an older colleague said that his was barely anything.
It's all just anecdotal evidence, of course.

I still haven't tested positive yet, but I am pretty sure I had it at least once.

 No.10188

>>10185
Yes, but I'm a good ally. I always take the side of the oppressed, but never appropriate their suffering, claim to have lived their struggles or claim to be able to even understand their struggles. But I always call out the racist sexis dude-bros. Those are particularly common in inherently sexist racist fields like material sciences and economics and engineering.

 No.10189

>>10183
Corinna is nothing but a cold. You'll be fine, don't be a drama-queen. All the panic was manufactured for political reasons (people for to unhappy do they needed to lining freedom of assembly and freedom of speech with mask-mandates). Do not fall for it.

 No.10190

>>10188
Yes, Zoomers are all pretty weak. They are very thin and often also short. Quite pathetic.

 No.10191 KONTRA

>>10189
He is guilty of spreading panic and being a malingerer. Sentence him to forced labor, the canton has spoken.

 No.10192

>>10191
>the canton has spoken

I feel this would go well with some AI art. A misfit standing in the middle of a snow covered village in the swiss mountains being sentenced and taken by the suisse guard.

 No.10193 KONTRA

>>10192
Best attempts. It seems Bing reads Papal Guard as Paypal Guard, so I couldn't even spawn funnily dressed guards.

 No.10194

>>10193
Makes you wonder how cliff throwing wasn't a form of corporal punishment back in the days.

 No.10195

wait, all of that CIA backed color revolution stuff was just a conspiracy theory all along?

I thought it was legit geopolitical analysis

 No.10196

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>blablabla politics blabalbla bickering blabalbal no u
You's a bunch o' elephants (=faggots).
Rather than beating each other up over irrelevant shit, ponder the following:

In a fight TO THE DEATH between an ice berg and a volcano, who would win?
Reminder that the ice berg hides its power level and the volcano is a hothead.

 No.10197

>>10196
Volcano

 No.10198 KONTRA

>>10196
Unserious and unintelligent, a volcano would win.

It's monday and I'm already thinking about fleeing to the far North of the country. Might do it in the weekend, just go to Galicia and hear them speak a funny language. Spain always feels strange though, I don't like how uncanny everything there is. I'm in a foreign land, but also not really.

 No.10199

>>10198
> go to Galicia and hear them speak a funny language
🇺🇦

 No.10200

>>10198
>I don't like how uncanny everything there is. I'm in a foreign land, but also not really.
I feel the same way about Bavaria and Badenia.

 No.10201

>>10200
>Baden and Bavaria
Weird combination. Franconian or Swabian?

 No.10203

>>10201
Swabian living in Franconia.

 No.10206

>>10172
I don't ventured deep into physiognomics to make an elaborate guess. I might ask Ernst Jünger what he thinks.

 No.10208 KONTRA

>>10177
I don't know who jumped in for me making posts. I'm glad you see your mistake, the copium was not necessary. These people try to make a business out of catastrophic visions, regardless of who came up with the idea of space colonization, they think it could be a profitable business model in the present. Sure, they are speculating. I'm not saying this WILL BE the future, but they actively engage with it at the moment.

 No.10214 KONTRA

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Brick is right, we ought to build Heaven on Earth. It's why God gave us capitalism. Every day we're a bit closer.

Pic unrelated: Visited EC /int/ a while back, which triggered an automated translate "popup" in Firefox. The decline is no longer a matter of opinion.

 No.10216 KONTRA

>>10208
>regardless of who came up with the idea of space colonization, they think it could be a profitable business model in the present.
Sergei Korolyev came up with that, a communist, in the past. He is dead, so he does not think anything. Profitabilty was not one of his considerations.

Stop going
>everything I don't like is capitalism
it's as retarded as feminists complaining about pens being "phallic".

 No.10217

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>>10188
> Those are particularly common in inherently sexist racist fields like material sciences and economics and engineering.

I'm pretty sure you were just trolling, but I do agree.

We should abolish all forms of material science, economics and engineering. Only humanitarian science is real science. Only work done by hand is real work. We should allow the strong women to work the fields without any engineered tools. To combat the rise of a patriarchy we should aim for a ratio of at least 5 females per male. Additionally the male shouldn't be allowed to do much more outside of keeping the bed warm for his multiple wifes who are enjoying their freedom working the fields in the day.

Let's build the femme dream heaven on earth.

 No.10218 KONTRA

>>10208
You sound exactly like some retarded poltard raving on about MUH JOOZ and MUH TRANNIES at every (not even necessarily) tangetially related topic.
Must be a miserable existence not being able to think of anything else.

 No.10219 KONTRA

>>10217
I'm pretty sure you are not trolling.

 No.10222

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>>10216
Korolyov was not a communist, but a counterrevolutionary and trotskist saboteur.

 No.10223 KONTRA

>>10222
I was going to say he was wrongly accused by that self-interested wrecker Yezhov, but it seems he was sentenced to egghead labor camp for years after the dismasking of Yezhov as an enemy of the people. Fugg :DD

 No.10225

>>10223
Sigismund Levanevsky denounced everyone he knew from Tupolevs office, because he needed someone to blame for his own idiotic failures. (Overfilling an oil-tank, than thinking it was leaking and starting to panic.)

 No.10275

>>10258
The interpretation is that you are the kind of petty asshole who will go cross-thread just to keep an inane argument going, not in order to reach any kind of conclusion, but exclusively to show everyone just how much smarter and moreally superior you are than the person you are trying to bully into submission with your hypocritical rhetorics. Otherwise you would have just kept posting in the old thread, which is still perfectly fine, just not bumped anymore and will take quite some time to be deleted.
You're a piece of shit, simple as.

btw I am not even the Ernst you are actually arguing with



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