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>>8547

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 No.9357

>>9350
>Is there a monolingual Ernst?
;_;

I've studied Nepali and Italian but neither stuck.

 No.9358

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>>9357
Very original. Why did you decide to study Nepali?

 No.9359 KONTRA

>>9357
Cheer up, English is a freebie in this side of the modern world. A Yuro that speaks his language and English is practically monolingual.

 No.9360

I drown my bilingual failure with Modern Talking and the exotic flute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwseub7uir4

>>9359
It's not like a big percentage of people in yuro countries speak English fluently statistics are welcome. Young people and especially students they are expected to speak it for reading papers or even study complete majors in English are able to hold a conversation I'd say. So at least they speak the language of their rather rich home countries. Funnily, even people I studied with gave me strange looks when I say I read complete books in English for fun.

 No.9361

>>9358
I was going to visit Nepal. Never did. I had the same reason for studying Italian, but actually went there. To Rome. Spanish is the most practical second language to learn here, but even with a growing Latino population I can't envision myself really needing it.

 No.9362

>>9360
>Young people and especially students are able to hold a conversation I'd say.

I'd say they can hold some of the conversations that were printed in their fifth grade school book, but they already forgot half of those.

I once had an argument with a fellow CS-student. He mixed up angle and angel and was adamant variables be renamed. I showed him the dictionary entry, he countered
>OK, but then, you pronounce it wrong
he would not botch.

Such skills and such confidence are the typical case, not the exception, at least for those who have no real Abitur, but so-called Fach-'Abitur'. I hear my colleagues butchering English on the phone day-in, day-out, the 28 year old engineers are worse than the 64 year old electrician and the 60 year old east German.

 No.9364

oh noooo. I was actually still unable to function properly, just lied to myself I was doing better.
The clue that led me to that conclusion was that I barely left my bed for the pas 4 days and forgot I had an exam by the end of the week.

 No.9365

>>9346
>>9350
>>9359

It always depends on who you ask.
e.g. I suddenly went from bi-lingual to tri-lingual, because some linguistic has had have decided, that the local dialect is distinct enough to be counted as another language. Others don't even bother to differentiate between Indo-European.
see Improved_Version.png, taken from the wiki page for language families.

i wanted to look up a visualization more focused on time and actual similarities, but found to many i didn't like. I didn't bother to improve my prompt engineering and went with the wiki img.
...
> prompt engineering
do languages count, which are not used to speak to a human? e.g. c++, some eso-lang or even something you just came up with yourself and didn't even bother sharing it, yet or ever?
what about communicating things to your pet? Do you have to teach your pet proper grammar and pronunciation or are you satisfied with "at least there is some form of understanding, even if naturally evolved expressions might sound and look stupid".
> grrrr
> kusch di.
> ...
> Hatt! Hatt!
> ...
> ..datt dütt wa.

i really like forms of language that don't follow the pre-defined order given. habbenings are waayyyy to diverse that past language structures always give the best fit. sometimes you have to break things in order to communicate effectively.

e.g. some things i lurked because Ernst showed it to me: Antifuchs. demm görl no care no moar 'bout da language rulez; me like.

i also rly liked how, whoever that bitch is, who is being played, started spitting lyrics at pretty much exactly ~15mins in.
https://hoer.live/soa420-hor-october-24-2023/
> ya
> ya'
> ya'll
> mini boss
> yeæ'eh..
and shortly after she rly starts to flow. but this Ernst barely understood anything. liked her vibe, thou.
this might sound stupid, but wat lang dat be?
soundenings laahk engrish from de afrikaans?
> doesn't provide the source of his question
> instead airs something else

some order is good, thou. but don't bother with order, when you are doing art - or do, if ye wandt.

 No.9366 KONTRA

>>9365
> not real anarchy

 No.9367 KONTRA

>>9366
yeah, I kinda love all the head-hurtenings that pic is giving. would call it EBIN ;D:D:D:DDD:D

 No.9368

>>9362
>the 28 year old engineers are worse than the 64 year old electrician and the 60 year old east German.

I could imagine they all butcher the English language when speaking. Even I do. If you don't actively speak the language you will certainly butcher it as a German. I noticed this at the conference. But the American I met last month told me my English is proficient and I should not worry about lying or exaggerating in the application. We talked for a like three hours straight. I miss vocabulary, grammar is not the biggest problem but it is the origin of butchering of course. I don't judge rather fluid non-native German speakers if they make a grammar mistake or pronounce a word a bit strange, so it should be all right.

 No.9370

>>9360
>Funnily, even people I studied with gave me strange looks when I say I read complete books in English for fun.
It depends. Something like Hemingway or Joyce? Legit.
Something not originally written in english with a german translation available? Weirdo.

 No.9371 KONTRA

>>9368
Few people manage "actual" native level speaking, no matter what language they are learning. And I think that's ok. As long as you can form a proper sentence and not completely mispronounce a word (like angle/angel) nobody will bat an eye.
Trying to adopt some kind of dialect/slang though is pretty cringy and I definitely will judge people for that.
Larv oh larv, numsain?

t. experienced in dealing with foreigners on the job

 No.9374

>>9368
>They all
In varying degrees. The old farts don't use as many false friends and are able to get their word order straight.

The others use word-by-word translations from German to English. Those translations will only start to make sense when you translate them back to German word-by-word.
When the person on the other end asks them to explain what they are even trying to say, they just repeat the same garbled-up nonsense, but louder and with more German vocabulary sprinkled in. It sometimes reminds me of those old jokes where 'I am hungry' translates to 'I am from Hungary'.
Weeks later, everyone is pissed because communication with the customer is so bad and things happened.

The idea of quality in general is alien to this company, but 'creative' solutions and cheap hacks are valued. We are genuinely unable to tell the difference between 'works as specified' and 'if we squint a little and stretch the specification a little, this looks like it might do something that resembles what was specified'. That is, if we have specifications. Usually, we do not, because boss does not believe in it. We don't have time for that nonsense! (But we do have time to troubleshoot and fix what was built without specifications, and we do have the money to pay for hardware that was destroyed.)

There is a pattern of over-promising in areas where we have no skill or experience, just trying to get the job. If we actually land it, we don't allocate enough resources to compensate for the lack of skill and experience, and give it the good old college try. But the boss is genuinely and deeply hurt when he gets dragged into court once again or when a customer holds back payments. Because, you know, we really tried like so hard!

We are also unable to detect incompetence in employees. We hire electrical engineers who can't wire a PLC to a power supply, and we keep them on the payroll for years.

Emotional and professional distance is the only way I survive at this place, and I am trying to get trainings and certifications to get a better job at a better company. Not better paying, just at a place where people try to be professional.

> I should not worry about lying or exaggerating in the application.

Americans operate on a different scale. American 'great' is German 'meh', American 'awesome' is German 'OK'.

>>9370
>Something like Hemingway or Joyce?
I would give anyone who reads Joyce in any language a weird look.

 No.9375

Ernst, please convince me not to text the 7335km far away girl whom I made fun of for reading Rilke in English translation and instead to focus on what's (or who's) in my near vicinity.

t. reading Joyce in the original enjoyer who's going through a moment of weakness

 No.9376 KONTRA

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In other news I recently went on a trip organized by the university. Didn't really read up on where beforehand cause it was free, so then it turned out to be a fake ass "ancient" village built for tourists. Kinda nice to look at but I already hate regular touristy places and this was about as artificial as it gets.
Worst of all the friend who invited me ended up not going so I was stuck without a social group, tortuously attempting to chat up some people I knew from classes, but I didn't really put my heart in it. Made me realize how often I rely on friends to take the brunt of the work when socializing.
Had a terrible moment when a crazy & ugly Russian girl I talked to once cornered me while I was sitting in a cafe by myself. I did a bit of courtesy small talk but then she continued sitting there for another ten minutes while I was reading. I should probably try to be at least tangentially part of more social groups so I don't get perceived as a weirdo outcast (and other weirdo outcasts try to associate themselves with me).
First order of self-improvement for the new week was to give up the long hair and get a fresh haircut.

 No.9377

>>9375
Ernst, I fell in love once as well.
When I first saw her, she was wearing loose-ish, grey cotton jogging wear; plain / modest in style. Pull-Over, with hoody and easy to access belly front bag; simple pants, held with a combination of rubber and thick string. Hair was bound into a simple pigtail, no make-up.
Some flat-sole shoes, sneakers or something; not that much of a foot fetish. But what caught my attention the most was how she moved. Ernst, I can't describe it, but I think I have some kink for micro-movements or something. She just instantly triggered all my "Dat de one!"-nerves. Lazy, confident, creative... that is the best i could describe her way of moving.
She even spoke the same language as I did, although we both were in a different country.
I was still too shy to approach her.
I saw her over the time span of maybe ~1 min, that was yesterday.

Let me tell you, from experience, you will never forget true love, Ernst.

 No.9378

Today I scraped ice and snow from my car. Winter has arrived.

 No.9379

>>9375
You waste thoughts and time and energy that is badly needed where you are located right now. No need to text her, instead talk up more expats if the natives are too difficult. You need the balance of shut in and wanting to make experience. You already made the step to go to China, next step is woman/expats. Continually push the boundaries, in smaller steps, no lead for leaps albeit Mao would disagree :DDD You must engage in a Deng attitude.

 No.9380 KONTRA

>>9376
>Cornered by crazy Russian girl
HELL YEAH
>Cornered by crazy and ugly Russian girl
Damn…


Anyway, I wouldn’t be concerned about the “village” being fake. Chinese and Japanese architecture is like that. Most stuff is built from perishable materials and is contstantly rebuilt and reconstructed and replicated.
Rather, take it as an opportunity to see things in scale and style in person. That’s a valuable experience.
Yu Hua has an essay in “China in Ten Words” dealing with the topic of authenticity in Chinese culture.

 No.9381

>>9380
>Yu Hua has an essay in “China in Ten Words” dealing with the topic of authenticity in Chinese culture.

Aren't they also giving a fuck about copyright etc by culture? Byung Chul Han has this essay I think about Hanzai or what it was called?

 No.9383

>>9375
Don't do it, long-distance relationships seldomly work out, heartbreak is certain, I once drove 600 km through the country just to fuck and she stood me up by saying that her friend just got broken up with and she needed to console her.

Also, shouldn't you be drowing in yellow pussy?

 No.9385 KONTRA

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>>9383
>I once drove 600 km through the country just to fuck and she stood me up by saying that her friend just got broken up with and she needed to console her.
Autobahn literature story material.

 No.9386

>>9385
Actually I went by train.
And since she only texted me, I tried pulling an alpha move and texted her back "no problem, I can take care of both of you".

 No.9387

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>>9383
>I once drove 600 km through the country just to fuck and she stood me up by saying that her friend just got broken up with and she needed to console her.
Not bad. I once drove 300km to see a girl I liked and who invited me to her birthday, and first thing she did was introducing her new BF to me.

 No.9388

>>9383
300km train ride to visit a girl who friend-zoned me. It was still an OK weekend, she fed me potatoes and a giant South American Steak, so it was kind of fair, I guess.

This was in 2007, and back then, her 2-room flat in a mid-sized west German city cost her 300€ a month. Fuck, I wish I could live in that flat now, for that price. I know pay twice as much for two rooms under the roof.

She's married to a Mathematician who is 15 years older than her. They have at least one child, and by the time that child is 18, his father will be a senior citizen.

 No.9390

/int/ - Long-distance friendzoned

 No.9391

Since we seem to be doing this: I'm gonna go on a date this sunday in a city that is 118 km away from the one I live in.

 No.9393

>>9391
I mean that's what? A one and a half hour drive? Are you combining it with a day trip or something?
Are you even going by (your own) car or by train?
Good luck anyway.

 No.9394

Prayers contain a lot of verbs in the imperative mood. "Do this, give me that." God knows better what to do. Doesn't that mean that a the one who does not pray is more righteous than the one who does it regularly and bothers God with his requests?

 No.9395

>>9394
You now realise that prayer is the traditional form of venting. By venting to an imaginary friend you don't risk offending actual people.

 No.9396

I never visited a woman far away, I only had an online "gf" when I was 13 or so somewhere in the mid 2000s


>>9385
>Autobahn literature

I'm keen to read Autobahn literature tbh. Could be a legit genre. German roadtrips. I mean this has probably been done already, maybe Tschick by this guy who killed himself because of his illness is a road trip novel that alongside dissects the German culture and society?
Had to head to a laundry today and walked to a part I never have been to, rail tracks, trains dashing by in the fall darkness, people in bikes, yellow red leaves everywhere. Magical German Midness.

 No.9397

>>9395
>>9394
Actually, prayer is establishing a dialogue with God.
Just sending your wishlist is NOT praying.

In fact, in 1983, a team of deeply pious scientists conducted a radical experiment in an undisclosed facility. The scientists had theorized that a human without access to any senses or ways to perceive stimuli would be able to perceive the presence of God.

They believed that the five senses clouded our awareness of eternity, and without them, a human could actually establish contact with God by thought. An elderly man who claimed to have “nothing left to live for” was the only test subject to volunteer. To purge him of all his senses, the scientists performed a complex operation in which every sensory nerve connection to the brain was surgically severed.* Although the test subject retained full muscular function, he could not see, hear, taste, smell, or feel. With no possible way to communicate with or even sense the outside world, he was alone with his thoughts.

Scientists monitored him as he spoke aloud about his state of mind in jumbled, slurred sentences that he couldn’t even hear. After four days, the man claimed to be hearing hushed, unintelligible voices in his head. Assuming it was an onset of psychosis, the scientists paid little attention to the man’s concerns.

Two days later, the man cried that he could hear his dead wife speaking with him, and even more, he could communicate back. The scientists were intrigued, but were not convinced until the subject started naming dead relatives of the scientists. He repeated personal information to the scientists that only their dead spouses and parents would have known. At this point, a sizable portion of scientists left the study.

After a week of conversing with the deceased through his thoughts, the subject became distressed, saying the voices were overwhelming. In every waking moment, his consciousness was bombarded by hundreds of voices that refused to leave him alone. He frequently threw himself against the wall, trying to elicit a pain response. He begged the scientists for sedatives, so he could escape the voices by sleeping. This tactic worked for three days, until he started having severe night terrors. The subject repeatedly said that he could see and hear the deceased in his dreams.

Only a day later, the subject began to scream and claw at his non-functional eyes, hoping to sense something in the physical world. The hysterical subject now said the voices of the dead were deafening and hostile, speaking of hell and the end of the world. At one point, he yelled, “No Heaven, no forgiveness,” for five hours straight. He continually begged to be killed, but the scientists were convinced that he was close to establishing contact with God.

After another day, the subject could no longer form coherent sentences. Seemingly mad, he started to bite off chunks of flesh from his arm. The scientists rushed into the test chamber and restrained him to a table so he could not kill himself. After a few hours of being tied down, the subject halted his struggling and screaming. He stared blankly at the ceiling as teardrops silently streaked across his face. For two weeks, the subject had to be manually rehydrated due to the constant crying. Eventually, he turned his head and, despite his blindness, made focused eye contact with a scientist for the first time in the study.

He whispered, “I have spoken with God, and He has abandoned us,” and his vital signs stopped.

There was no apparent cause of death.

 No.9398

>>9397
Unbelievers will still demand sources, but they will soon enough see her themselves, then they will have their source!

 No.9400

>9397
> An elderly man who claimed to have “nothing left to live for” was the only test subject
he lied.

> [...] his vital signs stopped.

> There was no apparent cause of death.
that was the point, where he truly had nothing left to live for.

<strong believer in "if you truly don't wanna, you just stop"; no need for additional external tools like gravity and potential energy.

t. ested it and came back

also:
> he
> her
!! DON'T JUST ASSUME MY PRO-NOUNS !!

:3

 No.9401

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Just watched a report about the brown marmorated stinkbug by the Bavarian public broadcaster.

I think the term invasive species is structurally xenophobe and racist. It implies that certain 'foreign' species are less desirable than others, even threatening. It equates 'foreign' with 'bad' and 'local' with 'good'. Only a fascist would use such terms as 'invasive species'.

The brown marmorated stink bug has the same right to exist in Germany as any other species. But Germans are nazis, and in their brutality and stupidity, the racist Germans have no better idea than exterminating the brown marmorated stink bug. That's the German reaction to everything they don't know or understand, and Germans know and understand very little!

But I celebrate diversity and welcome the brown marmorated stink bug to this country, it is enriching nature in this racist Nazi land!

Even the term 'stink bug' is technically wrong, it does not really sink, but it produces a warning smell when threatened! Do not threaten the bug, and you won't smell anything! If you do smell something, that's your own fault. I will hence call it smell bug.

I hope none of you here are fascists who do not welcome the brown marmorated smell bug and other enriching species to Europe!

 No.9402

>>9401
> !w brown marmorated stinkbug
> In Europe, Trissolcus japonicus is a focus of biological control programs against the brown marmorated stink bug.[61]

...

> Trissolcus japonicus, the samurai wasp, is a parasitoid wasp species in the family Scelionidae, native to east Asia but now found in Europe


Portu-Ball zu hülf!

We need an epic large scale battle drawn between these species while german balls only support one of those, because the other stinks.

> The Samurai vs Stinky

 No.9404

>>9393
It would be a 2 h drive if I took my car and without traffic jams, but I'm gonna go by train with based 49-€-ticket so it's like 2 h 40 or something

 No.9406 KONTRA

>>9402
We also need to hype the topic internationally and create an online merch-shop for team stin/k/s and team stin/g/s; supporting both sides for maximum $profit$s.

content and merch-art may be either assisted by, solely done with or completely done without artificial incompetence.

if you find any offending content and/or image, plz check our prompt log and see if you can contact the corresponding prompt engineer.
if you find our current A.I. model lacking, plz submit an improved version. see href:codeFormattingRegeln_documentation.doc for coding standards used in this project.

 No.9407

>>9404
Are you going to some bumfuck bavarian village? Or into the mountains in general? Two hours for a bit over 100km sounds like no autobahn allowed.
Then again, going by train takes only barely one and half times as long, so the place in question must be pretty close to a train station with a connection.
Then again again, maybe you have to switch trains a few times, with waiting times inbetween.
Or the train ride itself is only one hour or so and the rest is going by bus, but in that case I don't know how it is with the 49€ ticket.
If I want to visit my parents, I can go 2-2,5 h by car or ~4 h by train.

 No.9412

>>9407
118 km is the distance as the crow flies. Actual distance on Autobahn is 186 km and train is without ICE and with one switch with a bit of waiting time. Basically it is a "Halt an jeder Milchkanne" thing why it takes a little longer.

 No.9414 KONTRA

I had a pretty okay time yesterday. We visited the cemetery. I lit some candles. We ran out, but thankfully I brought a few tealights in my coat pocket so we could light one at the central cross for the countryside graves we couldn’t visit.
For me that’s probably the most part of this ritual. I mean it’s important to light candles for the graves here too, but I always make sure to light one for my great-grandmother too.

My mother kept talking about her ideas for her own burial and how she wants to have her ashes scattered and I frankly told her that “I’m not going to do that gay American movie shit” and that we should return to discussing this topic once it becomes more actual and we can judge the economic circumstances more soundly instead of thinking about it now.

I worked some more on my translation of that Han dynasty essay. It’s shocking how much easier it is than Song-dynasty prose. I have like 4 lines left but I really didn’t feel like completing it last night.
But I did finish reading the Shujing. I should probably write a post about that.

Up next is finally getting to it and completing that fucking presentation. And practice handwriting a bit now that I have my passive-character deck in order.

 No.9415

>>9414
> My mother kept talking about her ideas for her own burial and how she wants to have her ashes scattered and I frankly told her that “I’m not going to do that gay American movie shit” and that we should return to discussing this topic once it becomes more actual and we can judge the economic circumstances more soundly instead of thinking about it now.

Has any Ernst somewhat seriously already considered what should happen with his body after his death? Or maybe even something like a will?
..and would be willing to share some details or thoughts?

This Ernst has no problem with his body being used for either science or as an emergency replacement, if anything useful is found left. On the other hand Ernst would want some form of "this uniquely symbolizes Ernst", even if his body ends up spread all over the place. I don't rly care about being send to the crematorium or if my whole body gets left for natural rotting procedure to take over. In the latter case I would just advice to pick an easy degrade-able coffin; don't waste too much on stuff nobody gonna see anyway. And in both cases it's not my decision what is economical anyway.

If I could freely decide what actually happens after my death, with a will or something, I would prolly demand something like the following:

> The Body shall burn to ashes.

> The Ashes may return to earth.
> The skull remains.
> You've buried this seed into your ashes.
> I've buried your ashes into this earth.
> The skull shall hold what remains.

Effectively planting any seed (or sapling), into an ash/compost mixture and using the skull as plant pot. The other remains, depending on how much was useful, can be scattered pretty much anywhere; maybe leave just a little ashes for the compost, though. It's to symbolize nourishing the plant. If you have too much ashes, use the surrounding earth and fold it in. Might need some protection against roe. They love eating saplings.

But, uhhh, that prolly isn't possible because of some ruling regarding human remains and some "you can't just simply bury a human skull here." Maybe needs a religion to work.

And to counter something like:
> You egocentric narcissistic asshole just want to expand your influence even past your own death. That's why you want a tree planted in your name.
Na'ah! It symbolizes "a life spent for the living".

 No.9416 KONTRA

>>9415
I want a pyramid.

 No.9417

>>9412
>118 km is the distance as the crow flies
Duhhhh that's vital information at these distances. Going 300+ km will probably not make much of a difference on the average, but at shorter distances it's a pretty important factor.

But ok, Bimmelbahnen are the bane of anyone's existence who actually has to be somewhere.

 No.9418 KONTRA

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>>9415
> Maybe needs a religion to work.

[...]

> No, we are not some kind of "inbred in-sect-fanatics". We are an official religion.

> And we will continue to build this wall one death at a time.
...
> What do you mean? That doesn't contradict "a life spent for the living"?!

Attached is a picture of a rebuild of a structure that didn't manage to hold into the current times but had some historical significance.

 No.9419

>>9415
I personally do not really care what happens after my death.
If I can make a request I would want a viking funeral with a boat and fire.
My mom wants to be put in a cemetery forest, but my brother doesn't want that because he wants a grave to visit.

 No.9420

>>9415
>Has any Ernst somewhat seriously already considered what should happen with his body after his death?

Young enough to be useful, science or giving somebody else extended life sounds good. Old: burn me and give ashes to the sea fuck you soil, the mighty ocean os where it's at. The coolest would be burned while drifting out in the open sea.

Also grandma's americanized (is it even?) wish should be granted.

 No.9451

>>9415
This matters so few to me. When I die, I kinda believe everything that would’ve mattered during my mortal life would not anymore, maybe everything in the whole entire universe would cease to exist to me all at once, and would never have even existed, so why worry.

Maybe you could memetically transfer your own "being" into other people. That’s how I know a bit my grandfather without ever seeing him, throughout my father who behaves a lot like him. Since I behave a lot like my father, part of my grandfather is still alive I guess. Depending on how individuality is defined.

 No.9452 KONTRA

If I knew I was about to die though I seriously consider faking my own death and skydiving into my own coffin at my funeral.



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