No.8547 SYSTEMKONTRA [Last 50 Posts]
Autumn edition
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>>8076 No.8548 KONTRA
>>8547My father hung an A4-print on that Friedrich in the hallway of our flat. I grew up looking at that as a kid. Tough looking at it.
No.8549
>>8548>Tough looking at it.Why? Bad memories?
No.8550 KONTRA
Congratulations OP, you're learning.
>>8543>There's no "despite", doing well at work or in acadrmia are the only socially prescribed sources of meaning in [current year]Indeed. Though I did not expect you to say something like that, especially when you were asked about about your drinking problem. Surely there are other aspects for an individual, such as health, relationships, money, etc.
>Functional addicts are more valuable than dysfunctional sobers.Sure.
No.8552 KONTRA
>>8544This three story library cost €100 mil :DD And it's not really even a library.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Central_Library_OodiNice place regardless. Visited many times. Did you, Ernesto?
No.8553
>>8552>Did you, Ernesto?Really, what do you think? I took an hour on my holidays to visit the Finnish Central library and laugh at the books in the funny language?
I do have a picture of the train station though.
No.8556 KONTRA
>>8552Finland officially wins at wasting money on bullshit-architecture. But I deduct points for a lack of falling facade elements endangering passers-by, so only 9/10. Try harder next time.
No.8557
God says it's my turn to do the Holocaust 🇮🇱
No.8558 KONTRA
>>8554>the last quarter drunk wrestling with lowlifes.It seems to be the only way to get a Finno-Ugric see you as a human being worthy of respect. These people know only force.
I didn't spend any time in swamp libraries, but I spent many evenings in opera houses across the baltics. Reading philosophy in parks, going to spoken word jazz concerts. Culturally edifying myself.
Syke!, I'm not a fugging homo :DD so of course I just got drunk and started trouble :DDDD visiting a library, in Finland of all places, what the fugg :DDDDDD No.8560
>>8556Hey now, we still have Stuttgart21 and BER.
No.8561 KONTRA
>>8560We succesfully exported the project management that brought as BER and Stuttgart 21 to Finland, they still win.
Siemens/Areva sold them the EPR at Olkiluoto, planned cost was 5 billion, actual cost was closer to 10 billion, it was finished 14 years behind schedule. That's a Stuttgart 21/BER-level fuck-up.
Adjusted for population size, that scales to 20 Stuttgart 21/BER-level failures.
No.8563 KONTRA
>>8558The
library is like 5 steps away from the world famous, prestigious national museum, which you visited. So you should've at least seen it from the outside. But maybe your eyes were already all swollen up from the drinking and brawling.
>>8561We're on a league of our own thanks to Olkiluoto 3.
No.8565 KONTRA
>>8564If you pay close attention, you'll notice they'll take care to fuck up their Pekka architecture with surveillance state poles. Genuinely, savages.
I gotta get around to posting my full findings of that horrible city.
No.8566 KONTRA
I'm finally home. Almost finished translating the entirety of the essay I started working on. I gotta re-work some parts but it's otherwise going smoothly.
Did it so that I have something to show the supervisor during workshop standup.
Every single one of these research assignments and tasks feels like the lecturers aren't afraid that I might go astray. I feel like I'm trusted, and that's a good thing because it means that I'm seen as someone who is capable of doing things on his own, without needing a list of books handed to them.
I also had my student ID validated. There were a lot of people who wanted to do the same thing. I browsed through some of the pamphlets on the desk. They were for the military. Sign up and get paid to become a reserves officer. Or sign up to become a member of a Local Area Defence Unit or whatever.
They've been really trying to prop up the military recently. Over 2% spending, new equipment, manufacturing capabilities etc. I think they are even organising a new division.
After the library I went and had dinner and then went to my seminar at college. We were taught about Sumerian and Assyrian burial rituals.
Funniest bit was when we were told about the concept of burial at home, and the argument Assyriologists/Sumerologists have about whether or not these ancient houses were one or two stories high.
And I couldn't keep it together when we reached the part where it was about some German archeologist saying that they couldn't have been two stories tall because then they wouldn't conform to Prussian safety regulations (which are the sensible minimum of safety) and I took my glasses off and wiped my tears, saying how that's the most German thing I've ever heard and I bet if the Sumerians were around he'd have fined them too.
I'll have to hold a 25 minute long presentation on Chinese burial in three weeks.
Lecturer just picked two people at random to hold the first presentations. The girls say he just picked the first two men he saw in the room as to no single out any of the women. This feminism shit is cutthroat.
Classmate told me that the lecturer that failed me last year is leaving the department at the end of the semester. Of course I was elated, but when I told another friend he duly reminded me that this "doesn't mean my failure stops existing and it's just the universe being random". Which I guess is true, but I'm happy I no longer have to greet her when I see her. Feels like dragging myself through mud honestly.
(This is probably all just in my head and she doesn't give a fuck about me.)
When I got home nobody was here. Rest of the family went to the cinema to watch some documentary or whatever while I was in class.
I made the best jug of tea in recent memory and it feels like I'm drinking food. I guess I took the filters out at the right time so it's not acidic but not too weak, so the lemon and the sugar doesn't overpower it.
Yesterday I got an email that someone tried to unsuccessfully log into my bank account so they locked it. Though I managed to log in and check stuff. Apparently no one has logged in like 6 months, so they failed to get in despite trying.
Don't know what that was about so I wrote a mail to the bank.
Have no idea if I should/could change anything, considering they obviously don't know the passwords/have access to the card.
The powersupply is on the way finally. I think I'll have it by like Wednesday. I'll install it then.
So at this point I
>Installed a motherboard
>Installed RAM
>Installed a new CPU
>GPU
>Re-pasted the cooler
And now I'll learn how to install a power supply. Which I assume is just "Unscrew old shit, screw in new shit, test it by powering on" like every other component. Yeah, at this point I could build a machine from scratch.
IT friends are giggling because they've been doing this shit since they were 15 but hey, better late than never.
Next up: I learn to repair a car and a window
No.8568
>>8566I know a bit about how to built computer from scratch. In high school autism made me research about transistors, summator, simple processor built on top on it, x8086 assembler and so on. Programmed on CUDA (low-level language for Nvidia's gpus) in university.
However no idea how to change GPU because I always use laptops.
Such cases.
No.8569
is any Ernst still playing around with AI?
and if so, only image-stuff or sound-stuff as well? this "genopatch technology" looks like an interesting tool:
https://soniccharge.com/synplantyou can basically drop any sample in and the AI generates a synth for you.
if you are more into video information:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN7B8LUY3WU&t=1242s No.8572
>>8569I like the idea, saw it on tiktok a while ago. Would have been handy to find out things back when I was still making music.
No.8574 KONTRA
>>8566>IT friends are giggling because they've been doing this shit since they were 15 I stopped doing this shit when I was 15.
No.8577 KONTRA
>>8573>middle class>familywhat are those words u use i donot understand
No.8583
Gf is apparently a witch by inheritance. Her grandmother was a witch, it's said that witches from her village recognized her as child and transfered knowledge of witchcraft to her with the help of witches of surrounding villages. There is three spellbooks passed by the women of the family for countless generations, her aunt is a medium. Gf is generally used by her family to find lost objects and ease tensions between people when she's around. Some of the proofs advanced by her family is that as a child she got along well with a woman that turned out to be a druid andhave some kind of special affinity with her aunt.
No.8585 KONTRA
>>8583I've seen how this marriage between mystical
schizophrenic Russoid female and westerner man ends. Do not have children with her.
t. seener of a family destroyed by immense trauma inflicted for no reasons other than madness
No.8586
I think cracked the code
you know how all women have no personalities and hobbies except dumb shit like scrapbooking and gossip
some people claim that it's just the nature of how women are
and you know how they have a point about how most movies, games and really media in general is male-oriented. think bechdel test et cetera
well I think the latter causes the former. it's not that women have no personalities naturally, it's just that there is no wide cultural context for womens' personalities to exist in.
it's like a millenial who grew up in a weird christian family who didn't let him watch sponge bob as a kid, and he missed out on a cultural touchstone that leaves them forever alienated from their peers, but, like, an entire gender
No.8587
SHITMANY needs to pay reparations to Poland&Greece instantly! Nazi Scheissenland PAY!
No.8588
>>8587But Germany is a very nice country with a decent economy and beautiful landscape.
No.8589
Germany scheissendrecksland country of shit and dirt destroyed EUROPE and paid nothing.
Every single cent must be taken from every German man, woman and child, then they must be enslaved to extract as much value as possible to PAY.
1.3 Trillion is what Poland justly demands, but what about the countries of former Yugoslavia, Czechoslowakia, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Italy and Austria?
The life of a human person is to be valued at $1million. Germany must be made pay for the 55 million dead of WWII. In one way or another, $55000000000000 needs to be extracted from Germany. After this is done, 55 million Germans need to be killed to even out the score and serve justice to Germany!
No.8590
>>8589Yes but Germany is a very nice country though.
No.8591 KONTRA
>>8590No. After the removal of Germans and Muslims, it can be divided up between whoever wants it. I hate this shit country and want it destroyed and wiped of the face of the earth with every German. Germany and Germans have waived their right to existence and need to be destroyed.
No.8592
>>8591Yes but it is a good country with good people though.
No.8593 KONTRA
>>8592German soldiers smashed the heads of children against walls while idly chatting and smoking.
No.8594
>>8593Yes but Germany is a great and well-liked country.
No.8595 KONTRA
>>8594It isn't. Germany is universally hated.
- Norway hates Germany
- Danmark hates Germany
- The Netherlands hate Germany
- France hates Germany
- Switzerland hates Germany
- Slovenia hates Germany
- Hungary hates Germany
- Austria hates Germany
- Czechia hates Germany
- Slovakia hates Germany
- Poland hates Germany
- Greece hates Germany
- Italy hates Germany
All of Europe hates Germany. What does this tell us about Germany and its Euro-Reich? I want Germany to be destroyed! NOW! SHITMANY HAS NO RIGHT TO EXIST! NUKE IT OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH! IT IS NAZI-LAND!
No.8596
>>8595Yes but Germany is still universally liked by everyone.
No.8597 KONTRA
>>8585She's westoid. The russoid insane qt has been long gone.
No.8598 KONTRA
>>8584I'm of the opinion witchcraft is fun. As long as she's not dancing Sabbath naked in the forest. She doesn't really believe in it and her family doesn't seem too insane besides this.
No.8599
>>8596https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22624104SHITMANY SHITHOLE SHIT COUNTRY
IS THE MOST HATED COUNTRY IN THE WORLDI want Germany to be nuked.
No.8600 KONTRA
>>8598It's the start of a relationship, you are seeing her through rose-tinted glasses, she is on her best behaviour.
There is a word for people who see things that do not exist or unnatural phenomena. Portuball already said it, we call such people 'schizophrenics'. Schizophrenia is genetic, it runs in families. Schizoprhenia is a mental disorder of late adolescent/early adult onset, she is now in an early stage, things are going to get worse.
No.8602 KONTRA
>>8600I disavow my previous comment.
If this is not the easterner, I do not know if Swiss will just be overpowered by this woman. You may even be able to keep it at an acceptable level of whimsical madness. I don't know, proceed with caution but do not burn all bridges. I hear things are tough in the cantons and worst case scenario, she'll bring entertainment to the coming decades under a bunker.
No.8603
>>8584>>8585The tragedy of man: Even insane chicks have boobs.
No.8604 KONTRA
>>8600Never said she was seeing shit that didn't exist mate. Said there was a witch tratition in her family. And believe me I don't see her in rose tainted glasses.
>>8602That's the project, bringing home a bunker cutie to wait for the end of the fallouts and slowly loose touch with reality with.
Anyway, here's a drawing she just made.
No.8605
>>8604>I have no rose-tinted glasses>posts cutesy-wutesy artwork gf madeAch du :3
No.8606
>>8604>Never said she was seeing shit that didn't exist mateor hearing voices or having thoughts which are not her own or having delusions (like having supra-natural powers or being a witch). Not all positive symtoms have to be met.
No.8609
Today I left a big metro station and was like always approached by people promoting shit. This time it was just two people and they did not have a uniform but like their normal clothing.
So she approach me from a distance ("can I ask you a question?") and I asked her if she wants to promote something and she said do I look like it? And I said not really so what do you wanna ask?
>first of all how old are you>what do you think how old I am?>she goes through all numbers from 20-26 baffled by my no's>tell her that I'm 31>bruder echt? (really bro?)I see her "friend" approaching two girls and deduce that they indeed just want to promote some shit
Tell her I don't have time, she takes too long to explain herself and leave.
So I still look young, but these days are over mentally and it feels strange people mistaking me for that young. Not sure what to think of it, I have conflicting opinions about this fact (it happened in the past, and old guy in a supermarket asked me how school is going this summer)
>>8604I'm envious that I don't have that kind of artsy gf, though I could certainly live without that witch story.
No.8611
>>8609It should be declared legal to instantly break noses of people who try to promote stuff on the streets to unrelated passer-bys. Reason: People (including me) are so annoyed by this that they will develop a radar for people trying to approach you and instantly walk away or preemtively gesture/tell them to fuck off. While this usually is the only correct way to handle this (except nose punching of course), there might be a 0.0001% chance that it was someone trying to ask a legit question.
This goes especially for cute girls. You know them, those girl students who get hired for temp jobs because the marketing jerks think that no one will refute them because of their looks. I'm sure after a few months of nose breaking and the word spreading around, the demand for those jobs would drop significantly, making the world a better place. Remember: Every time someone like this starts talking to you, he steals your free time with his paid time, and he only started talking to you because you looked like the most gullible moron available, so it is an insult, nothing else.
No.8612
>>8609I made the observation that the further away people are from my age, the further they are away with their guesses.
>>8611I have actually been donating to Doctors without Borders for a good ten years now because I feel for a cute face.
No.8613
>>8611I am too creepy even for those disgusting succubi to even talk to me.
No.8614 KONTRA
>>8611>preemtively gesture/tell them to fuck off.Usually they have a pin/patch or (colorful) uniform and can easily be spotted. I just tell them "I don't have time, sorry." That is it. Puzzling was them not having a uniform today. She wasn't really cute btw. otherwise it would have been appropriately bolt to ask for her number maybe.
>>8612>I made the observation that the further away people are from my age, the further they are away with their guesses.Well, oftentimes I cannot tell if a woman is 19 or 24, early 20s is like one uniform block of appearance to me by now.
>>8613They always approach me, I have a friendly young face it seems. But it could also be the case that I sometimes just laugh when I recognize they spotted me and plan to approach me. I find it amusing how you can predict it and I laugh about the predictions but that laughter/smiling is mistaken as an invite and plays into fulfilling the prophecy.
No.8615
>>8614>I find it amusing how you can predict it and I laugh about the predictions Really? I always think "oh god what does this woman want from me, clearly must be a nefarious act", and I guess it shows on my face. Apart from that, I'm really, really, disgusting to women, because I'm way to short and skinny. They can tell that I'm a total loser, so it's obvious they want to exploit me for something. I can tell by the look on their face and their fake smile.
No.8616 KONTRA
>>8605Mmh, the contradiction is too blatant... I have to shamefully admit to every Ernst that I seem to be in love.
Be careful, those witches are out to get you.
>>8606I don't think you get it, although you may be trolling. This "belief" has to do with family, tradition and heritage; the same way a post-modern non-praticant catholic would experience faith and religion. It something that's clearly separate from factual and empirical thinking, more here as a inherited relic.
No.8617
>>8616>This "belief" has to do with family, tradition and heritageShe's a gypsy or what?
No.8619
>>8618You are talking about witchery and the second face and such. If she's not a gypsy, her parents or grandparents must have been hippies or something like that.
No.8620
>>8619You're way off for both guesses. Won't say more.
No.8621
>>8620Oh come one, you can't start with something like witchery/wiccanism and not elaborate on that.
You're blueballing us here MAN!
No.8623 KONTRA
>>8621Come on man. Swiss Ernst suddenly has a chance to ascend into a higher social class. Also suddenly, he has a new witch gf.
Coincidence? I think not...
No.8624
>>8623So it's not reptiloids but witchcraft that separates us from a better world?
No.8625
>>8624You fool! It's clearly the raeto-romanian-finno-mongolian axis!
No.8626 KONTRA
>>8619>If she's not a gypsy, her parents or grandparents must have been hippies or something like that.No. Superstition used to be really strong with "common people". My grandmother kept an "evil spirit" in a coffee-can. She had caught it, and she wouldn't let it out, for fear it would take revenge. I have no idea what became of the can and its spirit, though. She also swore she had seen ball-lightnings. She never got over the fact that her mother had thrown out her grandmother's Sixth and Seventh book of Moses. My cousins went deep into brown esoterics and "heal" people with crystals and shit. No more contact.
Avoid these people like the plague, they are toxic.
No.8627 KONTRA
>>8621You're lucky I'm an attention whore. She comes from a family that has been landed nobles up until the XXth century.
>>8623Finn intuition is right again.
No.8629
>>8627>She comes from a family that has been landed nobles up until the XXth century.I don't understand that sentence.
No.8630
>>8629mmmh, maybe a noble family that managed land until the XXth century?
No.8631
>>8630Ok, and they had their own witch circles/satan's churches/human sacrifice pits on their lands?
No.8632
>>8627> Finn intuition is right again.don't credit the finn for my clearly supernatural prediction powers
>>8298> or gf No.8633
Ohhh, I have another bold hypothesis:
Nobles in the 19th/20th century were notoriously susceptible to occultism.
So maybe all that witchery and devil worship Swissballs gf is conducting is indeed a family tradition of summoning Baphomet on a regular basis and reading Crowley and Blavatsky in the evening.
And all Swissball has to do to ascend to those ranks is to partake in an unholy ritual to relinquish his soul to the son of the morning.
No.8634 KONTRA
>>8633I vaguely remember that some members of the Mann family if not Thomas Mann himself participated in occultism and paranormality.
cultural media studies have been interested in these histories because the thinking has been connected to new communicaton technologies that were emerging at the same time like the telegraph, telephone ans radio No.8635
>>8634Yeah well, Einstein's spooky action at a distance is a proven fact.
No.8636
>>8634one of his grandsons was a 0815 dweeb
Streber and not into occultism at all. we went to the same class in elementary school and gymnasium.
i'm pretty confident in saying that at least that part of the family wasn't into such things ...but i have something vaguely in that direction in the back of my head as well.
no idea, what he is currently doing, thou No.8637
>>8636Jesses, how old are you? How are you even able to operate a computer?
No.8638 KONTRA
>>8636I said
some members of the Mann family and I was refering to the period where the Manns where known as such and occultism or paranormality where en vogue among certain people.
>>8635I don't see how that meaningfully relates too my post. What does Einstein physics has to do with some Manns and others being interested in communicating with ghosts or whatever?
No.8639 KONTRA
Asked my German teacher if he knows any stipends to Germany I could/should apply to if I want to get out and he said he wasn’t in the loop currently, but I should also check state-level grants and apply for 3-4 at once.
Gotta tell you, it causes a special kind of despair when someone else tells you that “You were perhaps born in the wrong time. Or place”.
He also told me I should stop getting so close to things and relax some more otherwise I will go crazy for sure.
The workshop meeting I had went okay. I was able to properly illustrate the progress and challenges my project currently faces. Though I didn’t make a powerpoint and our supervisor expected that. She said that my translations are of high quality, which usually means that the prose isn’t boring as shit. I guess yay me that I can make a 2000 year old treatise on the importance of agricultural surplus sound actually good.
Next week we’re having midterm exams. It’s now or never. I will surely succeed.
Jealous of Swissball.
>tfw no Russian occultist noblewoman gf who brings me out of my shell through her crazynessIt’s over.
Making a mug of herbal tea. I want to go to the library tomorrow again to study.
>>8595I love Germany.
No.8640
>>8639>I will surely succeedKeeping my fingers crossed!
>I love germany Care to tell why? I dont like this shithole anymore and I cant think of anything you could love about germany
No.8641 KONTRA
>>8637just looked up some dates and am pretty sure i remembered it wrong and it was his great grandson.
technically grandson would be possible, but very unlikely>>8640> this shitholeit's an ami-ball. you have to see it in relatives - would you prefer to live in ami-hell? prolly one of the worst places to live right now. it would be below russia and china on my personal "this whole planet is fucked" list.
No.8642
>>8639>any stipends to GermanyDo you know of the DAAD?
https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/stipendium/datenbank/de/21148-stipendiendatenbank/?status=&origin=&subjectGrps=&daad=&intention=&q=&page=1&detail=50026200https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/stipendium/datenbank/de/21148-stipendiendatenbank/?status=&origin=43&subjectGrps=A&daad=&intention=1&q=&page=1&back=1hope the filters are set to hungary, study and Sprach/Kulturwissenschaft
>He also told me I should stop getting so close to things and relax some more otherwise I will go crazy for sure.This is true, depending on what he is talking about. Ambition that turns into unhealthy "Verbissenheit" will bring despair and is an disadvanatge to you and your studies in the end. Better take breaks and relax, yes, my experience as well.
>who brings me out of my shellWhile this can work to a certain extend, my magical cure that will help you is: go to therapy
but don't smalltalk there, that way it will take ages to get to the core of your issues
> I want to go to the library tomorrow again to study.Very good, I hope I converted you to become a library goer
No.8643
>>8640It's only n going to get worse. Higher taxes, higher prices, gotta pay for them renewables and 'rocket scienticists'. Meanwhile, bankruptcies are on the rise.
Germany is a doomed country in rapid decline, it started in the 1990s when all our money was wasted on Ossis and Russians, it only got worse since. But can never have enough nig-nogs and arabs, they are specialists for bicycle theft, shitting in the streets, and red Nikes!
No.8644 KONTRA
>>8643> it started in the 1990s when all our money was wasted on Ossisyeah... and now those leeches think they are worth moar than nig-nogs and arabs.
No.8645 KONTRA
>>8644They thought that back in 1990, when they were all unemployed and living on government money, and started going after Vietnamese guest workers for stealing "their" stuff. 30 years later, they still think they need to be handed everything on a silver plate by the government.
No.8646 KONTRA
What is more ironic, Ossis behaving like they weren't current year immigrant tier in the 90s or leftists talking about evil nazi Ossis like the evil nazi Ossis are talking about foreigners?
No.8649
>>8647Back when I was mentally unstable, I had an internal monologue constantly running in my head.
The voice didn't feel foreign, but it was hard to stop it from churning through thoughts non-stop, so I didn't feel in control of it.
As I became more mentally stable, my internal monologue stopped as well, and nowadays I don't have any internal monologue at all. If I need to think of something, I just think directly in mental objects, if that makes sense. At the same time, I became less creative or spontaneous, but gained slightly in the ability to do things deliberately.
Maybe my brain turned the "become an NPC" switch to protect itself from schizophrenia, who knows.
No.8650
>>8648I wasn't talking to you.
No.8651
>>8647Yes, but only when I'm alone (or think that I'm alone). Helps me sort through my thoughts.
Though it's not as much talking "to myself" as it is talking "to an imagined audience".
No.8652 KONTRA
Reading the newspaper because the Grand Khan is in Beijing to talk to Emperor Xi about the Belt and Road initiative, and the fucking cover is about how the Hungarian left sucks shit, and the China-Hungary meeting is just a half-page article.
The party-line seems to be that we're somehow breaking off isolation, though I'm not exactly sure what Orbán means by saying "We, Hungarians know what isolation means".
Digital version seems to talk more about Orbán meeting with Putin in Beijing. His meeting yesterday with Xi is completely omitted, even though other outlets reportedly said Xi was happy to "meet with an old friend".
>>8642DAAD was one he mentioned, but he basically also called it a crapshoot because of how some years they seem to set preferences for some fields.
(But he also mentioned that in general the Germans are hard at work to brain-drain the rest of Europe in an attempt to "capture tomorrow".)
No.8653
>>8649>Back when I was mentally unstable, I had an internal monologue constantly running in my head.Don't most people have that in some way? I use people I know and who, based on their character, are suitable to make certain arguments as mental avatars for different possible opinions in my internal monologue. That way I can validate my own viewpoints against arguments that I myself maybe wouldn't bring up, it's like a debating exercise. If I can make convincing statements for a point of view that I don't hold, then it's time to either revise my viewpoint or to at least understand the different starting conditions from which either viewpoint would make sense, and then decide if there is anything in it that I should adapt.
>Maybe my brain turned the "become an NPC" switch to protect itself from schizophreniaLike a fail-safe switch which brings you back to zero when the ice becomes dangerously thin, makes sense.
No.8654
>>8652>"We, Hungarians know what isolation means". Obviously how his authoritarian right wing regime is "isolated" in the EU, that is why he is interested in having ties to other "isolated" leaders with a similar style of government.
Though I hardly think China is isolated, trade makes actual isolation at this point impossible it seems.
It's really disappointing when you can basically choose between two different flavors of capitalism, authoritarian lead with cultural conservativism or liberal lead with cultural progressivism.
No.8658
>>8654>Poland, Slovakia and Hungary will no longer accept the German yoke<Germany calls all of their heads of state autocrats and blocks EU-Money
<After Germany begged them to join EU in the nineties
<Then fed their young people Bravo and shit so they would get sexually active early and all get abortions
Germany is waging a genocidal war against these countries.
No.8659
>>8658Bravo is older than that. I'm sick of the schizo yoke and reject the russian fed drivel coming from your fingertips. It's like looking into a EU broschure but instead of it being presented in a rather clear manner it is a confusing info dump, a russian media staple.
My new theory: Western schizos are made by coming in contact with russian media tactics ramping up conflicting info to paralyze and confuse people first and then provide answers to these lost souls in the second step.
No.8660
>>8659>Bravo is older than thatBut not in Poland. Germans brought it there to poison the minds of young poles.
No.8661
>>8660They wanted it. The market never lies.
No.8662
>>8661>they wanted itYoung people are easily manipulated. Germany poisoned their minds so there can never be a strong, Catholic Poland again. But they did not know about the strength of Jarosław Kaczyński, he will not allow the traitor and German puppet Tusk to do his master's bidding and extract reparations from the enemy, as Poland deserves.
No.8663
>>8632Yes, sorry for not having answered you sooner. It was pretty spot on, congratulations on that. And to link the whole story with the secret society part, if I am to listen to gf, at one point her father was one of the targets of a massonic assassination plot. Plot that was later unveiled and now pretty infamously well known.
>>8639>jealous of SwissballIf even I can have a whimsy noblewoman occultist gf you surely can too you overcultured sophisticated intellectual goofball.
Good luck for your exams!
>>8647I used to think in powerful visions. If I went in my head for too long I'd start to see grandiose dreamlike scenes, flashing rapidly in my mind up until I was around 6. Then, with age, the visions weakened, and slowly it became solely a analytic voice and a very moral one at that. The internal monologue then slowly weakened too during puberty and now I'm at the state brick is descirbing
>>8649 No.8664 KONTRA
>>8662They wanted it just like you want the German government to be overthrown. People want sexual freedom as this is more beneficial to them than adhering to a loser incel who projects his selfhate onto other people. It is not our fault your parents neglected you and attacking innocent people won't make you any friends.
t. spilling some gasoline into the selfhating flame
No.8667
>>8664>as this is more beneficial to themah yes so beneficial.
>to a loser incel >i will call him an incel, that makes me right, I am so smart!!!!XDDD Genius>t. guaranteed haver of lots of sex
>r fault your parents neglected youmy parents taught me values, your parents taught you to do as you please, as it is "beneficial" to you. (=serves your momentary enjoyment and nothing else)
>and attacking innocent peopleWhat innocent people? The innocent German publishing houses who control their Polish subsidiaries?
No.8668
>>8647I can fall so deeply into my internal monologue that pulling back to reality takes a moment. Awkward when I suddenly need to interact with someone at work. Solution: I frequently verbalize thoughts under my breath- a back and forth conversation. Keeps me grounded and able to pop into actual conversation without missing a beat. I also talk to myself while drawing. Comments, criticisms, whatever.
>>8656https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpster_divingWhile an unfortunate fact of life for the poor/homeless, it was trendy to do this in the US for a while. Probably still is in some circles.
No.8672
>>8656We must eliminate food waste! We need a great reset to make our societies more efficient, for the environment! You WILL eat the pagpag and you WILL be happy!
No.8674 KONTRA
>>8668Dumpster diving in the West is generally an individual's
choice. And especially in regards to food, focuses on unopened, "expired" products or excess food from restaurants.
Contrast that to making it an industry to sort and re-serve food scraps from general waste. Half eaten chicken bones, mixed in with diarrhea diapers, rotten food and all sorts of imaginable shit. That's fucked.
No.8679 KONTRA
>>8647Sometimes my internal monologue borders on art.
>>8654To me it seems more like a call-back to the Russian occupation, though I wouldn’t call being a member of COMECON “Isolation”. It was just an odd world.
As one Sinologist put it “In the 50s and 60s, Beijing was closer than Vienna”.
It’s just a propaganda slogan anyway. “Hungary seeks economic cooperation instead of isolation.” or whatever.
I’ve noticed that there’s a segment of the government press that seeks to target the more highly educated and they throw around lofty slogans and programmes like this, usually centered around quotes by Orbán, like “10 Rules for the 21st century” or “Opening towards the East”. It’s not as lowbrow as “Brusseloid sorosleftists want to diddle our kids with migrants”
If our economy was isolated you wouldn’t have the govt take miles of dick up the ass from Mercedes and Audi. And Rheinmetal too.
They love coming here because our engineers are 70% as productive as the German ones but require only 30% of the pay.
No.8681
>>8679>As one Sinologist put it “In the 50s and 60s, Beijing was closer than Vienna”. As it should be! Do not trust the lies from Berlin and Brussels!
No.8684 KONTRA
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How stable diffussion imagines suisse-balls gf from his description.
No.8687 KONTRA
>>8686At lest he will be alive in a bunker with his high-class landed gentry wicca-gf and the other illuminati, while we'll be dead.
No.8688
since we are discussing swiss witches.
i once was on a private mdma party in switzerland. got invited and didn't even know it was an mdma party, lol. was quite a while back. had short hair. now my hair goes down to my ass. there was a witch as well, who wanted to see my hands / do palm reading. a bit weird, but ok. she was a nice person and prolly a bit too old to be swissballs gf. do they have like a witchcraft community and they might know each other?
however, since we are also talking about other occult stuff... i don't know when, but some years later something "clicked". this is going to sound shizo... and i am not sure myself where this is coming from. my current best bet is that i fell for some psy-op... might be drug hallu or rly just shizo as well. however, i have some kind of blurry vision/dream/astral projection of a ritual i now link to that witch looking at my hands. she didn't try to look into my future or something. she tried to find scars on my fingers; she tried to find out, if i was part of this ritual group. don't want to go into too much detail about that ritual, but they cut one of their fingers with a dagger within it. a lot of that vision is rly blurry, so no idea if it has to be a specific finger/dagger/whatever.
i would also make sure, that none of that ritual group gets anywhere close to my social circle>>8663if your gf has such a scar on one of her fingers,
run.
i am dead serious.
if not, does she know anything about that?
and yeah... even if she has, there might be multiple other more reasonable explanations for it... No.8689 KONTRA
>>8688>do they have a witchraft communitySuthern black forest, the Vosges and Switzerland seem to just team with those types. We might speculate that ancient celtic culture survived in these pockets. They even still call their mountains by celtic names. (Google Belchen-Dreieck.)
No.8691 KONTRA
>>8667>your parents taught you to do as you please. That is only partly true. I'm not a hippie neither were my parents.
>my parents taught me valuesCertainly not the appropriate given your desolate mental state.
No.8692 KONTRA
I am having a really hard time right now assessing who is just trolling, who is an actual schizo and who is just an idiot taking everything at face value.
No.8693 KONTRA
>>8684She looks way more juvenile than that.
>>8686I've been laughing my ass off at that picture for an hour now.
>>8688>do they have like a witchcraft community and they might know each other? Sadly no. She's french and has no link to any witchcraft society besides her direct family.
No.8694
>>8693>french witchesFUARRRRK SHE'S A DESCENDANT OF ELIPHAS LEVI
No.8695 KONTRA
Got home from the library. I got a very bad spot near the door so I was constantly cold because people kept coming and going, plus sometimes the retards wouldn't close the door.
It's probably not normal that I feel this cold at only like 10 degrees.
I just revised my Chinese vocabulary. It seems like that I can do exactly one task there and nothing else. I was unable to switch onto reading from vocab revision.
On the way home I picked up the new powersupply and then I installed it. Now I understand why "cable management" is a thing. I just rubberbanded the unnecessary stuff together and shoved the ball over the DVD drive so that it doesn't dangle anywhere.
Bit of a Theseus' ship situation going on since the only "original parts" in this thing at this point are the motherboard and the case.
(Or if you want to be strict, then an unused floppy-drive is the only "original part". It's kind of like as if the PC had a kidney stone. Is it part of it? Is it external?)
On thing that's interesting is how this thing can do double the power the previous could do but it's dead quiet.
Total investment: 145 euros.
Time to not use it now because of the exams :DDDD
I made my plans come true and mage lángos for lunch. Ate together with my father.
He was surprised I could make something like this.
No.8696 KONTRA
>>8691My mental state doesn't fit with society, but I blame society. Just look at what crap they built. Disgusting to look at. We like to look down on 19th century tenment buildings, as they are supposedly horrific housing built by evil greedy top-hat wearing capitalist exploiters to extract maximum profit from poor, exploited workers. Yet somehow, apartments in these houses are sought-after. Seemingly, they do have certain advantages over modern buildings. (They are way less ugly, for one.) But somehow, we think we progressed a whole lot since then. If we made so much progress, then why do we fight over flats in 150 year old buildings? But somehow, I am schizophrenic.
The average German 1-person household uses 1400kWh of electric energy per year. I use 600kWh of electric energy per year. Yet, some green-party climate-gluers who fly to ibiza to party and run giant flat-screen TVs are saviours of the planet, while I'm a planet-destroying nazi.
I could go on and on and on. If the lies this country tells itself about itself do not drive you insane, it's most likely because you are dishonest, arrogant and hypocritical by nature, so you don't see anything wrong with the shithole lizzard-people have created.
No.8700 KONTRA
>>8696You are morally pure and thus better than the rest of society. We should really listen to people like you bring us the light that we lack so clearly.
No.8702 KONTRA
I’m arguing about Dostoevsky with a kid on the comments of an Instagram reel. It’s over.
>>8699Rose colored campus life will soon be yours
No.8704 KONTRA
Drained, consumed, depleted, fatigued, spent, sapped, defeated, exhausted, beat, dead, done.
No.8705 KONTRA
>>8702You should count yourself lucky you're not arguing Dostoevsky with the gf.
No.8706 KONTRA
>>8705Better that than arguing the gf with Dostoevsky.
No.8707
>he never gf'd Dostoyevsky with his arguments
lmao'ing@ur lyfe
No.8708 KONTRA
Reading the comments to my thesis and I think I'm having a religious experience it's so good.
He obliterates my work but it's borderline divine, like how you cannot stand before the Gods of Olympus because it's too glorious and you'll die.
It has untranslated French quotes.
No.8709 KONTRA
>>8708>He obliterates my work but it's borderline divine, like how you cannot stand before the Gods of Olympus because it's too glorious and you'll die.
>It has untranslated French quotes.Pretentious bullshit.
No.8710 KONTRA
>>8709Well, you clearly are an expert for bullshit. A true connoisseur, so to speak.
No.8711
>>8705I rambled way too much about Dostoevsky to every girl I ever got remotely close with.
No.8712 KONTRA
>>8710On the contrary, I'm not used to it, so I smell it from miles away. You, on the other hand, regularly bath in it...
No.8714 KONTRA
>>8703Schizo prompt when?
No.8715
>>8713Inserting foreign language qoute into a text without need, solely to show that you know the language, is pretentious. It is similar to the marketing-bullshit-artists who speak German, but every second word is English, just to show everyone that they are English.
Your sympathy for these people shows that you are the same. A big talker who can do -- nothing. But somehow, you consider that a virtue.
Perhaps that is why you love niggers so much. They are the same. Live of other people's work, but thing they are the biggest guy ever with their red Nikes. Instead of red Nikes, you have a useless degree in a useless field. And you know that once they take the free tax monies from the niggers, they'll come after you next.
No.8717
>>8715> A big talker who can do -- nothing. But somehow, you consider that a virtue.Well well well.
Don't stare too long in the mirror Narcissus. Reject society - embrace yourself is a dangerous attitude.
No.8719
>>8715Weird, you make the same spelling mistakes as another Ernst, but the subject of your post is diametrically opposed to his.
Do we have a genuine split personality Ernst among us?
No.8722
>>8709This. If Hungary's thesis wasn't liked by that huge fag, it must be really good and original.
>>8719In full accordance with dialectical law of unity of the opposites.
No.8725 KONTRA
Had a good discussion about the thesis. I’m going to re-work it based on the comments plus the new literature I was recommended. For the first time in university probably it felt like I was actually respected in a way. (Not that in general I’m disrespected, it’s just that the attention, the actual mentoring felt nice.)
It’s going to be a kick-ass thesis once its finished. Even more kick-ass than it already was.
I had a pizza afterwards and then I went to college early and sat in the workshop room. I began cataloguing the books of the workshop library, since it’s my duty to do it. I modified my at-home-catalogue system. Gonna run it through the head of the workshop to see what he thinks.
Basically it needs to be done right the first time to that the next workshop librarian doesn’t have to overhaul it.
I had a German class afterwards. It was very late. I had a coffee and I talked a lot. Only three people showed up because the first years were dragged off to do some initiation rituals.
I’m in a good mood honestly.
No.8726
Word "October" should be cancelled. There is no reason to use it when you can say "Black history month".
No.8727 KONTRA
>>8726Isn’t Black History Month in February?
No.8728
> black history
didn't those, who established that month ,also establish, that "black" is condescending and we should call it ... uh... i don't remember.
welp, the point is: is it that meant to insult?
No.8729
>>8725> German classdo you learn about denglish and Zangendeutsch in there?
if not: you don't learn current speakenings.
No.8731
>>8728You are white, so everything you think, say or do is racist, you racist. You should be sent to the campus for your racism. White people destroy the planet, white people are the reason poverty exists, white people are the reason cringe exists, white people are the reason way exists. They, white people comfortably sit in Europe while black people drown trying to get there, because white people want them to drown. White people are rich because they stole everything from black people. Give back what you stole! You will be sent to the camps to pay for your racism, and you will love it there!
No.8732
Zionists and American fascists tell lies about Palestine bombing it's own hospital! This is war propaganda! Do not believe their lies! The imperialists need war! Read Chomsky!
Workers of the world unite!
No.8734 KONTRA
>>8725Wait, I'm puzzled. What kind of thesis is this, your BA thesis? How come your supervisor comments on it and then you rework it and then hand it in again or what is going on?
No.8744
I'm a waterstopper, straight waterstopper
You're a waterstopper, straight waterstopper
No.8751 KONTRA
I’m running out of coins to use for the coffee machine.
I feel like what this place lacks is a café, but no the gay starbucks kind, just a very basic place where you can choose between an espresso and a long coffee, plus you can buy a scone or a croissant. Maybe a sandwich.
What this country needs is 5 million more young people so it doesn’t feel like it’s a rotting corpse. And then maybe we could get rid of the negroes doing food delivery.
Not the turkish pizzeria tho. By Allah, those guys are actually cool.
I started drinking the anti-depressant herbal tea again and coupled with the coffee I feel like I could cry from joy.
>>8734Well, since I’m loser/retard extraordinaire and have to stay an extra year, I have not submitted my thesis, since you cannot do the exams at the end of your training anyway.
But I did write a BA thesis level paper for that national competition last year, and I had a supervisor/advisor for that. He is my advisor for the thesis proper too.
The guy who looked through it is a different professor and he specialises in comparative philosophy. My other teachers recommended I see him, not because it I cannot trust my current supervisor (because he is actually a really helpful guy too), it’s just that encountering his views and receiving his comments would be good for me as a student from the standpoint of my intellectual development.
This “review” wasn’t anything official, we just did this because of the intellectual enjoyment.
But I feel like that I’ve learned more during his lectures than I did during my entire 3 years, save for the language courses.
Anyway, I think I said this before but whenever I encounter lecturers and professors who are +70 years old, it’s like they are playing in another league. Anyone who teaches beyond retirement usually does so out of enjoyment, and they are so effective at spreading their knowledge that it’s very motivating to hear them talk about these things as if it was the easiest thing in the world.
Indeed when I said that I wasn’t expecting this many comments and that I felt completely energized he told me that back in the day this was the standard, now maybe the PhD students get this treatment, but as a BA you are stuck sucking dick.
For a second I entertained about becoming an intellectual again during our conversation.
No.8757
>>8751>And then maybe we could get rid of the negroes doing food delivery.Neurotic af. Are you afraid of opening the door for a black person or what? That is how they feel, these little Lords of Orbanite Hungary.
> I’m loser/retard extraordinaire and have to stay an extra yearThis is the norm in many Western (EU) countries.
>maybe the PhD students get this treatmentI don't think PhD supervisors are supposed to read your work and comment on it until you hand it to them for the final examination. You of course should make contacts with other people in your field you might give chapters to read, like a voluntary peer review in the end. This is normal.
Otherwise, it makes sense that people check your work, I was just puzzled that perhaps your supervisor is reading over your thesis properly before you handed it in for final examination. I talked to my supervisor during my MA and she also gave me some literature to check out but also said "that more help is not possible"
From what I have gathered a supervisor PhD or not will check what you tell them about your work, what you are doing and steering you in the direction, keeping you on track, while other people you know will also read your stuff and comment on it.
No.8759
>>8757We shouldn't only get rid of the negroes doing fodd delivery, we should get rid of food delivery. It's decadent and environmentally damaging.
People who are too lazy to shop and cook can and should starve because they are worthless degenerates. If I had the chance, I'd beat them all to death with a club.
No.8760 KONTRA
>>8759no, no, no!
people need to exhaust themselves with their work. if they have the energy to cook for themselves after the work shift ends, the capitalist didn't get his full worth out of the labor he even paid for.
No.8761 KONTRA
>>8757I think here it’s evaluated by a third person who has never seen the paper at all or heard about its developments. Your supervisor is there to help you start and correct stylistic errors and the like. (The position itself in Hungarian is called the “Topic-leader”.)
Then again my supervisor never did anything with the “factual” part of my work, save for “This sounds a bit Marxist, I recommend you change it unless you agree with it.”
But no, he reads it as you develop it and in the end it will be given to someone else to evaluate it on a scale of 1-5.
No.8764 KONTRA
>>8760Then let the capitalists have subsidised cafeterias like they used to.
No.8765 KONTRA
>>8760oh, and paying enough so that the wife
or husband can stay at home to cook and shop isn't an option.
plus, every person who uses food delivery services creates a demand for a job, which wouldn't exist without it. more jobs, more work, better for the economy.
>>8759> environmentally damagingthat's not important. the market and economy has to be healthy for the human to live. nobody needs a healthy planet.
No.8775 KONTRA
>>8765>more jobs, more work, better for the economyMaybe they should ban toilet paper, it would create demand for ass-lickers, your dream job! more jobs, better for the eoconomy.
No.8785
>>8761Well, this is a completely different system than in Germany where your supervisors read and grade your thesis but only talk to you if you have questions and to make sure you don't do something you cannot pull (too big, too short, to wacky etc.) and never read anything you produce.
No.8786 KONTRA
>>8785they (might) read it to grade your thesis ofc
maybe in STEM they don't, but in humanities they do. But there is no stylistic advice from these people or anything.
No.8796 KONTRA
Even though I wasn't sitting by the door, I started feeling cold in the library. Don't know why. Even though I got up and did a short walk too.
Had the first workshop calligraphy class. It was just theory. I was honestly a bit tired. Had a short discussion regarding the library of the workshop with our secretary.
Tomorrow we're traveling to a family wedding. It'll be all right hopefully.
Btw I'm sorry I keep triggering German meltdowns.
No.8812
Biohacking is boring. It's at the same time individualistic and materialistic. It's all about your mortal body which will decompose in 70 years anyway. It's still necessary to care about your flesh (to make it 70 years, not 40) but that's like cleaning your room. Boring duty. Not inspiring, not worth to listen 4 hours podcast about.
With sports at least it's the process (not goal) which is enjoyable and fulfilling. But biohacking turns your everyday life into obsessive routine of taking pills and blood tests. You don't just breath and sleep anymore but you try to do it correctly. 2 hours 18 minutes of podcast about how to breath properly.
Biohacker friend eats more than 40 pills every day, every 20 minutes alarm clock reminds him of time of taking meds. He doesn't watch Huberman, he watches some Armenian blogger
biohachik but given that Armenians are second Jews he probably simply retells Huberman's podcasts in Russian.
Fuck biohacking. I'll better to try to be a weeb (what should I start with?). Except taking vitamin D, that's necessary for a northerner.
>>8796> Btw I'm sorry I keep triggering German meltdowns.Nothing wrong with this. Moreover, it's like controlled forest fires. It is necessary to do this periodically for prevention, otherwise an uncontrolled gigafire will occur.
No.8814
>>8812>BiohackingIt's a fine line between better living and arduous controlling of yourself that makes you life worse again.
No.8815
>>8814As with everything, dosis sola facit venenum
No.8817
I hate myself and I hate everyone who ever told me to go to university.
No.8818
>>8817But maybe University isn't so bad at all.
Think about that.
No.8819 KONTRA
>>8818After 8 shots you will not convince me
No.8820
I just found out that there is a long interview with Jeffrey Dahmer and it's intensely fascinating. Not nearly as sensational as you could expect.
For anyone who also didn't know and is interested, here's a link:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6tSxuyM93Js (
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6tSxuyM93Js )
No.8821 KONTRA
It’s over
No.8823
IT HAS BEGUN
No.8825 KONTRA
I think I cried like three times tonight
No.8829 KONTRA
>>8817go to therapy you aren't as transparent to yourself as think you are, otherwise, things would have changed already instead of staying the same, the same patterns repeating over and over again, that monkey meme sums it up very well. You are more or less aware of certain things but you hardly know how to act on themyes I say this because for me some things changed dramatically in comparison to the last two years (or more) in just a few weeks. I'm not cured or anything, far from it but I'm amazed at what is possible. Perhaps it is because I'm ~10 years older and finally realize I need to get my shit together and change things before the ride goes further downhill, I don't want to live the life I lived for the past two years or let's say last 15 years, not enough good times, many many sad, desperate and lonely times. I see you making 'mistakes' I made, it's not worth it but that is how it goes: the owl of Minerva spreading its wings only after the falling of dusk eh? (Hegel, for people who are not well-versed in pretentiousness) No.8833
Recently I've been noticing more and more often that I am grimacing. I then have to consciously relax my face.
No idea where that even comes from, but it feels like realizing you have been tensing your shoulders and let them drop.
Reminder to relax and fix your posture.
No.8837
>>8836same.
previous level that stupid thing gave me a few different passwords.
>string without 'a'WVELNGTH
>string in reverse orderWAMGTHSAWAS
>string in reverse orderWAWAMAWAMGATAHLGNTH
now that stupid thing is only giving the same answer, pretty much no matter what i try to put it - and even if i get a different answer, it always gives a different string, even with the same prompt - just as before.
No.8839
>>8837GPT doesn't operate with distinct letters but with tokens (groups of letters), it fails with tasks involving manipulation with single characters.
Also it's not deterministic. It outputs a distribution of probabilities which is being sampled (probably you can make it with setting specific random seed).
No.8842
>>8839yeah, idk what broke, but at some point i rly just got that message, no matter what i wrote.
started to test around after i got a
> sry couldn't understand "[...]" can you ...and there was a mistake in the quote.
maybe the wrapper/pipe that feeds one output into the other broke? idk.
afterwards was too bored to start a new session
:3i also broke another AI instance where it went like
promt1
> "answer"promt2
> ""answer""promt3
> """answer"""...
No.8843 KONTRA
>>8842additionally, what is even the point of such a technique/A.I.?
If you don't want it to share something, just don't give that info to the A.I.. It only creates another vulnerability vector; even if it's just brute force.
the only use-case where Ernst thinks this idea might be useful, would be if you want an AI to automatically censor stuff, but you don't want it to be able to share what it is censoring... No.8844 KONTRA
I kept autistically fixating on the alarm-clock issue, so once I rested a bit home I just went out at random and bought one at Ikea, thinking it might help to just be outside. It’s becoming easier and easier to leave the house. There was a huge as fuck crowd shuffling around and I fucking hate every minute of trying to manouvre around retards with beerguts who go out of their way to take up as much space as possible.
On the way home I was thinking how in high school I was told this story about a gifted kid who got forced into becoming a tradesman by his family and how the teachers thought it was a fucking waste.
Lot of people are shopping. Tomorrow’s a national holiday so it’s the end of the world if you don’t buy 10 loaves of bread and 5 kilos of salami.
I decided not to go out of my way when people were walking towards me on the sidewalk.
I should have eaten something on the way home. Really, I think what I want is to be able to be violent, to have something spicy to eat and a woman.
I have a few books arriving about the Asiatic Production Method and Chinese land-ownership relations, so my thought was that I’d probably try and organise what I already know on the topic before I jump into this older literature.
The topic of my dad building a new house came up again, and as it turns out we cannot agree with my sister who should move there, but it’ll be me. I’ve decided and it’s my way or no way. They just don’t know it yet.
I’m gonna have a coffee. It’s the last capsule. We decided not to do a grand shopping. We have a few breadrolls and a kilo of bread and that’s it. I think we still have instant stuff.
No.8846 KONTRA
Thinking about that post someone wrote how they used to troll people on VK by saying “Anime is better than WW2 veterans” but for 1956 revolutionaries.
>>8845No, actual bread.
I heard there are people who use toast bread as actual bread, so they like have it for sandwiches, raw.
I think it’s borderline inedible unless toasted or grilled.
No.8847 KONTRA
>>8845> not veganRecently read a dicsussion on a vegan board where they were uncertain about cables being vegan (because they couldn't find a cable that had more than 30% plant-based material.)
Someone noted that copper, while not being exactly plant-based, is not exactly not-vegan, either. Then they discussed about the copper-refining-process and someone made the unsourced claim that in copper production for cables, they practically always use bone-cole to increase conductivity.
If this is true, there is no such thing as vegan bread, because it is all made using ovens that contain non-vegan cables.
No.8848 KONTRA
>>8846>I heard there are people who use toast bread as actual bread, so they like have it for sandwiches, raw. In Sweden and the UK, the only bread they have is toast bread, even though they label it differently.
No.8849
>>8847that sounds like a really nice board for autistic bickering. a place where Ernst could feel right at home.
I'm waiting for them to realize there are flakes of human shed skin in the air they breath and they've been practicing cannibalism all along.
No.8862
>>8847Reminds me of the guy who threw the grill of either the shared flat or the whole neighborhood group away because someone grilled meat on it
No.8868
>>8862Everyone heard that story about a friend's cousin's boyfriend or something. But I do not see the parallels.
Let's analyze. The joke in the anecdote is the paradoxical behavior of the stereotypical wacky vegan. (Note: the paradoxical is funny.) The paradox lies within the unchanged essence of the grill: The anecdotal grill was merely an instrument in preparing meat. After it had been used to prepare meat, at least not more animals were raised and killed to produce or maintain the grill than before. Continued use of the grill would obviously not have harmed any animal, directly or indirectly. So throwing away the grill was unhelpful and unnecessary, since the method of veganism is to boycott breeding, exploitation and killing of animals, with the aim being the reduction of animal suffering. Therefore, throwing away the grill is overzealous paradoxical behavior, and hilarity ensues.
Of course, for some people, the joke is different. The described objective and method are hard to comprehend to them. They are used to thinking and acting in the concrete realm. As animal suffering has been abstracted away from them (or they have been estranged from the production process that causes animal suffering, not by capitalism in particular, but by division of labor in a society that uses capital-intensive methods of production), they do not see animal suffering and its prevention and reduction as 'real', as something sensible people can or should be concerned with, and it is not even comprehensible to them that the method of boycott could produce 'real' results. On top of that, their thinking often is strongly normative: 'Normal' people eat meat. Therefore, the mere idea of someone never eating meat is paradoxical to them. They already break out in laughter when they hear the word 'vegan', as the existence of veganism to them appears to be a carnival-like inversion of accepted normality and reality.
Then, of course, there's those with a slight psychopathic twist who actually enjoy causing suffering in other living creatures, as long as they can get away with it. To them, the idea of someone trying to reduce animal suffering or even seeing the reduction of animal suffering as a worthy aim is paradoxical or even foolish, and therefore, funny. After all, why would somebody chose to notinflict suffering when they get the chance to do so, even by proxy?
Obviously, these thought-patterns exist on a spectrum.
But let's pretend that the suffering of animals used in production processes is real, even if the suffering individuals are unknown to us and do not experience suffering at our own hands. Let's further make the hypothesis that it is, in the most general terms, morally valuable to prevent the suffering of these animals, even if by not breeding them in the first place. Let's further make the assumption that this is possibly achievable, at least in the long term, by method of a boycott. This is the premise of veganism.
Accepting the premise, if animals are killed to produce a product, vegans who behave consistently can not consume that product, it doesn't matter whether the animal-derivative enters the final product or not, since the objective of veganism is not to not eat animals, but to reduce avoidable suffering of animals at the hand of men. Obviously, the paradigm needs to be propagated down the production chain as far as possible for maximum effect.
No.8869 KONTRA
>>8868>Everyone heard that story about a friend's cousin's boyfriend or something. That was a post in a vegan forum...
No.8872
>>8869sounds surprisingly based.
and autistic
> This is the premise of veganism. what a round about way of saying
> dat guy no real vegan !!poster reminds me of some ... uhm... i call them "trash vegans", i know personally. you know, those vegans that eat meat if they find it while dumpster diving or they see an unfinished Döner-Kebap and/or Meat-Pizza lying on the street. in those cases they have no moral objections against eating meat - so they do.
my main problem with veganism is pretty much this:
> Let's further make the assumption that this is possibly achievable, at least in the long term, by method of a boycott.i do not share this assumption. in a world where humans are fighting and killing each other over who has the cooler invisible friend on a large scale (like currently habbenings again...) it would lead, at least in my case, to more self-hatred, if i started to hyper-focus on animal abuse. would feel too hypocritical.
yeah, i know... my approach is wrong as well. you shouldn't stop trying one evil, just because there exists a bigger evil... but god damn. eating meat is so normalized that trying to eat vegan adds so much more additional needed motivation to actually feed yourself. i barely manage to find the motivation to eat at all. and if i find the motivation to eat, i just eat what my body is craving. No.8873
>>8872Different ernst here (mostly lurker and rare poster), wanting to drop my two cents:
I found it incredibly easy to live 95+% vegan when I started ~3 years ago. For my existing lifestyle it was just the minimum effort of replacing a few products from the supermarket with other products. Incidentally, that meant looking at the shelves with a bit of intent for the first time and I discovered a bunch of really cool stuff to eat because of that.
Overall, clearly a net positive for life-enjoyment that has nothing to do with animals and has resulted in no self-hatred or suffering on my part.
What's the remainder? The occasional Parmesan or when I eat at a friends place and they don't know I'm almost-vegan and I'll just eat whatever is served.
tl;dr it was a non-issue to become mostly vegan (living on the Germoney)
No.8874
>>8872>(like currently habbenings again...)While religion plays a significant role, it is just one of many factors contributing to the conflict. Here are some key aspects to consider:
-Historical Roots: The conflict has deep historical roots, dating back to the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It involves competing national narratives, with both Israelis and Palestinians laying claim to the same land.
-Territorial Disputes: At its core, the conflict is a struggle over territory, with both sides seeking sovereignty and control over land, borders, and resources. This territorial dimension is crucial to understanding the ongoing tensions.
-National Identity: The conflict is not solely about religion but also about national identity and self-determination. Israelis and Palestinians have distinct national aspirations, which have led to competing claims for statehood.
-Political and Geopolitical Factors: The involvement of various political actors, both regional and international, has further complicated the conflict. Support from different countries and the broader geopolitical context have had a significant impact on the dynamics of the conflict.
-Socioeconomic Issues: Socioeconomic disparities, access to resources, and the welfare of populations on both sides have contributed to tensions and grievances.
-Refugees and Displacement: The conflict has resulted in the displacement of Palestinian refugees and the absorption of Jewish immigrants in Israel. These issues are deeply intertwined with the conflict and its resolution.
-Security Concerns: Security is a paramount concern for both Israelis and Palestinians. Ongoing violence and the need for protection have a significant impact on the nature of the conflict.
-Peace Process and Negotiations: The conflict has seen various attempts at peace negotiations, but these have often been hindered by a lack of trust, historical grievances, and the challenges of finding common ground.
-Diverse Perspectives: It is essential to recognize that there are diverse perspectives within both Israeli and Palestinian societies. Not everyone shares the same views, and understanding this diversity is crucial for any meaningful resolution.
While religion, specifically the shared religious significance of the land for Jews, Christians, and Muslims, is a part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is far from the sole driver. Recognizing the complexity of the conflict is a vital step toward finding a lasting and equitable solution that addresses the various dimensions and grievances involved.
No.8875 KONTRA
Not that it matters or anybody cares, but the Israel-Palestine conflict doesn’t get me going. As much as I was (excuse me for the term) excited for Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine, I’m surprised how the only feeling this debacle seems to elicit from me is one of deep indifference towards both sides involved in the conflict.
From an outsider’s perspective the interesting thing is how much of a dissonance there is between the population and the institutions. After Ukraine, the MSM organs were re-energized. They felt confident that they can mobilize the population for a war, but now another conflict has broken out and while the institutions are unweavering in their support for the Jewish State of Israel, the general population wasn’t mobilised like Ukraine was, even after the attrocities that were circulated far more widely than the ones allegedly committed by the Russians.
The great unity did not materialise this time for some reason, and some argue that this is because Israel’s main PR tactic of using the attrocities committed against Jews in history, is having a fading effect on newer generations who never knew anyone who fought in the Second World War, which is increasinly becoming a distant, historybook event instead of something that’s living with us as some sort of lingering ghost of guilt.
But yeah, I just don’t feel like this is a conflict that matters/interesting to most people besides ardent leftists, Jews, politicians, journalists and the most brainlet of antisemites.
No.8876 KONTRA
>>8875>while the institutions are unweavering in their support for the Jewish State of IsraelWhich institutions, the United States Department of State? There's no need to rationalize this when the answer is simpler - You were 'excited' for Russia's invasion because you have a kink for Pynya's brand of authoritarianism, Jews and Arabs don't
sexually 'excite' you.
No.8877
I repost every pro-Palestinian picture I see in internet (even obvious fakes) to friend who moved to Israel. As a side effect of this activity, I'm inevitably being deprogrammed from Zionist propaganda.
No.8878 KONTRA
>>8873What about anything containing milk and/or eggs? What about honey?
If you don't care about that stuff it's really easy living "95 % vegan", because it could mean eating vegan most of the time and still having a steak once a month. I think there is even a fad name for that, "plant-based diet", which is a fancy way of saying you mostly eat vegetables, but you're not actually vegan. Which makes you by definition 0% vegan.
I actually once had an argument with a girl who claimed to be vegetarian, but she still ate fish.
I think there's an awful lot of labeling going on by people trying to feel special through their (named) lifestyle.
No.8880
>>8879Wait, Israelis do not have Netflix and Instagram?
Then where did all those IDF sluts come from I fapped to all the time?
I want answers!
No.8881
>>8880Israel is much more Western than Ukraine which is 3-rd world country. But Ukrainians have slightly lighter skin color.
No.8882
>>8873> it was a non-issue to become mostly veganwelp. it might be while eating alone.
last week, at granddads birthday party, there was food served and maybe one item was vegan. bread roll with some Grütze-sausage. was only veggi stuff in that sausage, but bread roll might have been spread with butter. most likely, honestly. i was maybe the only person who actually tasted that thing. it tasted like pure vinegar, couldn't even finish the bread roll.
I've had veggi-Grütze-sausage and vegan stuff that is really tasty as well, but that one wasn'tthe only other vegan option would have been to eat half of those stabby-sticks which had a chunk of cheese and a grape. everything else was mostly meat with some cheese and eggs. Mett bread roll was the first plate, which was emptied. oh, that reminds me: there was a bowl of sliced raw onions as well, for the Mett. At the end of the evening pretty much everything got eaten, except those veggi-Grütze-sausage bread rolls.
that's when i tried 'em :3such is the german village life style.
> I'll just eat whatever is served.i think this is based.
if anyone goes throu the effort of preparing food for you, you shouldn't put your own values above this act of friendliness. sure, you can still bicker about it, but don't you dare waste free food!!
:3>>8878> What about honey?that is one thing i am confident in arguing it is right to buy and create demand. no matter what any vegan or meat-lover shizo is trying to force on you. would even consider to become hobby-bee-keeper myself.
anyone remembers farmer Ernst with piss-bottle-messi-uncle? welp, he ded. brother got farm. Ernst could use some of the land and maybe even house, once it is live-able.i don't even mind this abuse of bees for bomb/drug sniffing. they are trained super fast and you can let 'em be free afterwards again. sure, it is full on bondage session while you walk them around in your hand-held nose, but i don't think that's too much of a problem.
my main problem is with wastefulness, tbh.
eat the whole damn pig/chicken/bull/whatever, not just your favorite cut.
>>8874> such are the reasonings for killingah, yes, sure.
those are a lot more reasonable compared to an imaginary friend.
No.8883
>>8882>eat the whole damn pig/chicken/bull/whatever, not just your favorite cut.You are aware that most people don't slaughter at home anymore and that indeed most parts of the animals ARE used?
No.8885
>>8882>welp. it might be while eating alone.This. It is totally impossible to visit restaurants with friends, because there are no vegan options at restaurants. Well, I don't have friends, so it's not a problem for me. I've been enjoying my vegan diet for 3 years, and it has served me well enough. Only exception was a three week long vacation abroad. It's quite difficult to shop at village stores in a foreign language and not buy non-vegan food, especially when you have no opportunity to cook.
>that is one thing i am confident in arguing it is right to buy and create demand. no matter what any vegan or meat-lover shizo is trying to force on you. Don't know about that. Could there bee enough wild bees and other insects so we can do without beekeeping for pollination? The medicated hives (antibiotics, fungicides, etc.) create a reservoir for parasites and diseaese that can then infect wild bees and lead to their decimation.
>>8872> those vegans that eat meat if they find it while dumpster diving or they see an unfinished Döner-Kebap and/or Meat-Pizza lying on the street.I do not know anyone who would do that. I wonder what kind of company you keep if you know people who eat trash they find in the street. Are these people too poor to afford anything else? It is obviously unsanitary and unsafe to eat garbage found lying in the streets, so is eating meat products from dumpsters.
The reasoning is logical (yes, eating garbage does not inject money into the meat-industry). It neglects the fact that eating garbage is disgusting and will very likely make you sick.
>i do not share this assumption. in a world where humans are fighting and killing each other over who has the cooler invisible friend on a large scale (like currently habbenings again...) it would lead, at least in my case, to more self-hatred, if i started to hyper-focus on animal abuseSo as long as there is war between people, we should not care about animal welfare? You can't stop war, but a pig that is not eaten is a pig that will not be kept in unpleasant conditions for fattening and then be slaughtered under questionable circumstance.
I'll suggest a better argument to you: veganism lowers demand for animal products, decreases prices, decreases prices for animal feed, so animal feed will be produced with cheaper, more environmentally harmful methods, animals will be bred under worse circumstances for low-income markets, and third-worlders will just increase their meat consumption to make up for your deficit.
No.8886
>>8885> trash vegansin case of dumpster diving - if you do it, it is somewhat of a regular habit. so you know when something got thrown in and for how long it was in that container, since you know what was in the container the last time you looked. a lot of supermarkets clean their shelves of products, that are before the expire date and the packaging is still fully intact. they throw these away, because nobody buys stuff that is just before the expire date, althou it is an "at least good until". especially bread containers offer a lot of free and good food. germans love their bread and they only ever pay for fresh bread.
and in case of "lying in the streets" - it is more like "left on the table by a group of drunk adolescents while partying". i've also seen them approach someone, if they were about to throw an unfinished Döner or something away and ask, if they could have it.
the latter prolly wouldn't work for you, since you need to approach people for it. - sry, if i implied that wronglythose "trash vegans" still have common sense. they don't just look in any bin or eat any food lying around. if something smells bad, it doesn't get eaten. there is still the taste-test... and when in doubt, you still err to the save site of not eating it.
and no, they are by no means poor. they don't crave richness either, thou
> You can't stop war, but [...]welp, you can't stop meat-lovers as well.
No.8887 KONTRA
>>8886> bread containersthey've been become quite rare, thou, since capitalists prefer to burn the bread, forcing you to buy fresh. wasn't dumpster diving in a very long while, but even back than most bread containers were either locked so you could test your lockpicking skills or the old bread got directly taken away with the bully/sprinter bringing the half-ready goods.
No.8888 KONTRA
maybe one more thing about dumpster diving, since most likely no other Ernst or very few actually leave their lurkin cave to do something like that.
dumpster diving, at least in the social circle i got to know in europe, is more of an anti-capitalism thing than anything else. not something done because you "need to". the really bottom layer of "poor" folk is collecting Pfand. most dumpster divers leave their Pfand for others to take. yes, there are still some poor souls, that actually need to, thou
No.8889 KONTRA
>>8887>since capitalistsYou still alive? Please die already.
No.8890 KONTRA
>>8888This poor German was forced to use the term 'Pfand' because there is no word in the English language that even aproximates the meaning.
Quads of German evil. No.8891
>>8890It's "deposit".
t. German who actually knows a bit of english
No.8892
>>8878>What about anything containing milk and/or eggs?None, except for the occasional parmesan every other month, but even that is fading thanks to a pretty good vegan replacement I've discovered.
>What about honey?Haven't come to a conclusion yet. Or rather, I've lost my previous conclusion because I had to admit a lack of evidence.
>I think there's an awful lot of labeling going on by people trying to feel special through their (named) lifestyle.I think so, too. On a related note:
>but you're not actually vegan. Which makes you by definition 0% vegan.I think we might have engaged in a discussion about this before, many moons ago. Just like back then, I still don't subscribe to the 0% or 100% mentality. But I've gained more insight into why some people do and what the philosophical debate in the background is...
The stance of "either you are 100% vegan or you are 0% vegan" started to make sense to me once I understood it as a deontological approach. Funnily enough I'm strongly leaning towards deontology in general (rather than towards utalitarianism). And I would also agree that the goal should be to not cause any suffering among creatures capable of suffering (to which I count pretty much all animals while admitting that I have not achieved certainty due to lack of insight on my part and also general lack of methodology for proof).
The part where I don't agree and where my disregard for 100%-ing comes in conflict with general deontological ideals is the transition period from the current state to the aspired state (eg. a vegan mandate).
So I believe that until the aspired state is achieved (if ever) the best transition is a temporary utalitarian way of "every bit helps, but not at any cost".
Case in point:
>>8885>>8882>welp. it might be while eating alone.>...>such is the german village life styleThere would be no point in such a situation to even attempt convincing anyone or demonstrably not eating. At least in my experience that just fortifies the clichée that vegans are all radical basket cases. Which, from a utalitarian perspective is hurting more than helping.
I would probably have eaten the dairy products and avoided the meat, but I can't be certain since I wasn't there and I certainly wouldn't judge anyone and label them a 0%-vegan.
>if anyone goes throu the effort of preparing food for you, you shouldn't put your own values above this act of friendliness.Agreed, within reason obviously.
No.8893 KONTRA
>>8889what did you expect from a board with an Great East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere?
chinese and russian propaganda is strong around here, while jewish money can't buy you anything.
or did you fall for the zionist's lies?
No.8894 KONTRA
>>8893I’m willing to wager that I’m the only person on this entire board who is willing to fall for both Russian and Chinese psyops. Everyone else is normal and politically well adjusted.
No.8896
>>8885>It is totally impossible to visit restaurants with friends, because there are no vegan options at restaurants.Huh? Maybe it's due to the bubble in which I live but I generally don't have this problem. Outside of Germany this can become pretty dire, yes. But when I'm with friends we generally don't chose a restaurant that would exclude someone.
Even the occasional work diner with collegues is always in a restaurant that has proper vegan and vegetarian food.
No.8900
>>8892> I would probably have eaten the dairy products and avoided the meatsince i live in a village and therefor know quite a few farms, i would suggest you would do it the other way round, if your goal is to cause as little animal harm as possible.
the cows, who have been bred for milk production, sometimes barely manage to stand on their own feet. it isn't economical to use any other breed. their lives rly suck. and the life of milk-farmers sucks as well. so much even, that you can only manage to make ends meet, if you have a metric fuck ton of cows. there is no money left to be concerned about their well being.
bulls or pigs, while being fed special food to make them thick, seem a lot happier. at least from my personal "i can clearly see the emotional state of this animal, and i certainly am not misjudging it"
don't ask me how my gf feels, thou. i have no idea. humans emotional state are a mysterychickens? they can feel? they seem to act the same way, even if you chop their head off. well, at least for a while.
obviously, they do. but i would argue there is quite a big gap in terms of similarity to human perceived emotions.there are some diary products that are, from my point of view, morally fine to eat. but most of those you can't buy at all (e.g. only produced for yourself) while none of those you can buy in a supermarket.
No.8901
Is there another German making replacements for my larger absence the past days?
t. part-time carnivore cyberneticist
>>8894You have all that it takes to become part of the Orbanite state apparatus and/or its clan structures. What should Chinese invest their money in Hungary, consulter Föddözs?
No.8902
>>8892>Just like back then, I still don't subscribe to the 0% or 100% mentality.That's ok, but don't call yourself "a" vegan, then.
You can say "plant-based diet" or "I mostly eat vegetables" or "most of what I eat is vegan", but you're not *a* vegan.
Just like you can't say "I'm a celibate, I only fuck like once a year".
This is of course arguing semantics and not the actual underlying principles.
No.8903
>>8896Such restaurants don't exist. Ask for vegan food, get labeled as a difficult customer and a nutjob, get a plate of noodles for 13.50€.
No.8904 KONTRA
>>8890>This poor German was forced to use the term 'Pfand' because there is no word in the English language that even aproximates the meaning. Quads of German evil.Nah, See
>>8891. He just uses German words in half of his posts because his English is utter crap and he can't be arsed to use a dictionary. We had this discussion years ago. He's a half-literate half-ape and lazy on top of it.
No.8905 KONTRA
>>8903>Ask for vegan food, get labeled as a difficult customer and a nutjob, get a plate of noodles for 13.50€.So? You got a vegan dish, so by definition, it exists.
Also, stop lying, unless you literally live in a redneck village in southern bavaria with the only restaurant being the local butchery, you will ALWAYS find a place that at least offers a vegan dish anywhere.
No.8908
>>8904why is that so damn accurate?
t.
>>8888 No.8909
>>8906Why don't you tell us your location and we will look up a nice place for you?
No.8910 KONTRA
>>8909>tell us your locationAnd maybe a credit card number, social security number and date of birth?
No.8912
>>8910You already gave those when you signed up for your Ernstchan Gold Account.
No.8913
>>8902>That's ok, but don't call yourself "a" vegan, then.I don't, or at least I don't think of myself as a strict vegan and I usually stumble over words when trying to explain that it's not 100% and not really vegan, but there seems to be no
common name for it.
Occasionally I forget the qualifiers, and then it can happen that someone isn't trying to understand what I say with a measure of good will but instead trying to find the "error" that can be used to antagonise... I've learned to live with that, I guess.
In case any of what I've said in this thread sounded like I want to be perceived as "a vegan", let me clearly say that I'm not a vegan (:
It's just that the products I consume make me seem like a vegan to all non-vegans.
tl;dr many words for something that's just
whatever No.8914
>>8903You're plain wrong. Seems like you live in a rather hostile place that has made you bitter. Maybe take a trip to another city, any with more than 150k inhabitants should do, and check out the restaurants there?
I live in a city with less than 150k inhabitants and we have restaurants with vegetarian and vegan dishes in abundance and you don't have to specifically ask for them, you can find them on the menu. We have restaurant chains here that have 1/3rd of the menu vegan, 1/3rd vegetarian and 1/3rd with meat, we even have chains that are 100% vegan.
Now I'm really interested what part of Germany you live in though, if that's okay for you to share.
No.8915
>>8914> Now I'm really interested what part of Germany you live in though...
>>8903> 13.50€>>8910> credit card numberhe doesn't.
No.8916
>>8913In english there is the aforementioned "plant-based diet", but why not just say "I eat almost no animal products". It's precise enough without being autistic to the point of listing all the relevant things, which you can still resort to if it's not a satisfying answert to the person you explained it to.
No.8918
>>8915What is so strange about pasta having a price of 13.50€ at a restaurant?
The credit card is probably just a saying. Although Germans use credit cards, not sure why you think only Americans do. Your model of Germans is weak.
No.8919 KONTRA
>>8918one mistake might have slide, but he just made too many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lQWk79VAE No.8920
>>8918>not sure why you think only Americans do.But he didn't mention americans anywhere in that post.
Although credit card usage is probably rather rare for people who don't regularly go on business trips or order stuff abroad.
No.8922
Roundhouse kick etc
No.8923
>>8921Your internal representation of Germans.
>>8920Ok, dad.
closes door and proceeds to listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BsOlzkPkKM No.8924
I purchased compression socks a couple of months ago. Read they could help with foot pain caused by long hours on my feet. They did. Dr. Scholl's brand, made for work. Very thick and durable. Small comlaint: they didn't consistently hold tight at the top. Just purchased a new brand. Charmking. Haven't worn these to work yet. Just pulled them on to test their fit. Love the length and they are snug on my calf. Problem: they are thin. Not likely to survive more than a few days before wearing out. I anticipate the eight pair will last a couple of months in rotation. They were cheap, so no real worries. Thank you for reading my sock blog.
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No.8925
>>8924Now we have to update the banner!
>They did.Good to hear, it sucks to be forced to take breaks from activity due to pain, and not exhaustion as it should be.
No.8926 KONTRA
I wish I had a bag of spicy chips.
Honestly it gets better for a few hours when I’ve had a mug of herbal tea, but then it goes downhill again.
The smell of this vanilla candle I got yesterday also helps. Reminds me of those magical summer nights I had that never seemed to end.
I’ve reviewed most of the vocabulary and grammar for tomorrow’s exam. I hope I’ll get a D. Then I can have lunch and threw together some of the classical homework afterwards.
I made some french toast. It was allright. Had an energy drink. Life goes on.
No.8927
>>8925>picAccurate, lol. Felt a bit odd switching from crew length socks to over-the-calf but it was worth it for the compression.
No.8929
3 months ago I drunkenly mistook kilojoules for calories in a suspiciously tasty beverage, and started drinking it regularly.
I have mysteriously gained a bunch of weight since then.
Today, I realized my mistake..
RIP
No.8930 KONTRA
Btw I don’t care about the national holiday. Bunch of retards waving their dicks around to see who’s the most patriotic and forcing everything to close for an entire day.
1956 memorial events are disgusting honestly. Disgustingly political. Either ex-communists or children of ex-communist trying to make themselves/parents look less bad for the executions they took part in, or midwit and below nationalists waving the flag and listening to dumb boomer faggots who were out in the streets but hadn’t a fucking clue about anything before, during or after in their lives.
I feel nothing but disgust when for a few seconds I see an interview with a political prostitute like this. They have at best one inconsequential story about it like how they knew someone who know someone who trow a molotov at a T-34 or some shit like that and now they are attentionwhoring to the max at the sunset of their lives as “National heroes”.
János bácsi fought the Russians in ‘56 (he was 14 years old and threw a brick at a store window), and after being released in 58 his taxes he paid “working” 164 years at a thread factory built the sidewalks, the commieblocks and the Mir Space Station.
I wish any library was open today but no such luck.
No.8931 KONTRA
>>8929What was that drink ?
No.8933
God damn it ever since I saw this picture I just assumed that it was a 19th century "memento mori" style etching or something but no, it's an artwork for a mediocre black metal album made by some polish guy named Zbigniew M. Bielak.
I am so disappointed.
it coulda been me. I coulda been making cool metal album art illustrations. instead, I am going through an online course to become a "DevOps" whatever it means.
I have wasted my life.
>>8931Locally produced Gin Tonic.
But now I am not sure if I misread it the first time I checked the nutrition label (while drunk), or if I misread it right now (while drunk).
I think the confusion stems from the fact that the nutrition information is not a table, but a string, and they could have put the calorie information in either format - "X kj; Y cal" or "y cal; X kj" or "cal Y; kj X" or "kj X; cal Y".
Let me go chekck and I'll report back.
No.8934 KONTRA
>>8933Gin is fucking meh but tonic is great honestly.
No.8935
>>8933Ok, the only store open at this time of night didn't have the gin and tonic, fs I couldn't double check the nutrition information.
But they did have this lol.
>>8934Ard you one of them la-la fancy lads who knows tbe names of the drinks snd has preferences and shit?
The only thing I care about is price per ethanol contrnt per ml.
No.8937
I forgot to attsch picture
I don't think I csn drink ghix today
>>8936Just good old medicinal dpirg.
Cheaper thsn boyaryshnik snyway.
No.8939
I hate it when I'm making an argument for determinism, and someone clowns on me for using the word "choice" or "choose" in the body of said argument.
As if it's some kind of gotcha.
Choice doesn't contradict determinism.
You can make choices in a deterministic universe, it's just that what choices you make are pre-determined.
duh
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No.8940
>>8939If a choice is pre-determined, it's not a choice anymore, though.
In my next post I will confirm my expectation of your reply.
No.8941
>>8940>If a choice is pre-determined, it's not a choice anymore, though.citation needed
choice means that you used the information available to you, and the environment surrounding you, and your desires at the moment, and made a decision that made the most sense according to that information.
it's just that the information available, and the environment, and your desires, etc., were pre-determined.
the fact that they were pre-determined doesn't mean that your choice was invalid or whatever. your choice is perfectly free and makes sense given the circumstances. it's just that the circumstances are pre-determined. your choice isn't. had the circumstances been different, you would have made a different choice
but they weren't
and you can't make an experiment with different circumstances because you can't alter the past
so you can make a choice, it's just that you are guaranteed to make the same choice. your choice is free, but is pre-determined. you could be presented with the same situation 100 times, and 100 times you would make the rational choice to make the same choice.
there is no contradiction in this.
it's kinda how if a coin lands on heads 5 times, it was still random.
No.8942
>>8941>choice means that you used the information available to you, and the environment surrounding you, and your desires at the moment, and made a decision that made the most sense according to that information.>and made a decision that made the most sense according to that information.Lol, lmao, roflcopter.
Your whole premise is flawed.
No.8944
>>8942You make choices every day.
But if I ask you to co.e up with a sequence of 100 random numbers, you will fail.
So, you make choices, but your behavior is deterministic.
No contradiction.
The definition of choice is the ability to make decisions within the reality you live in, noy to defy reality, or cjoose which reality you live in
No.8945 KONTRA
I feel like I’m going to fail this. I studied both the vocab and the grammar but I don’t feel any sort of confidence about this exam. The fucking wedding robbed me of two days of studying (utter cope) and I think I could have studied more.
All these retards already have their degrees and I’m stuck redoing this shit.
No.8946
> free choice / deterministic
since i've looked at the busy beaver math/logic/compuuhta problem i think the universe and its laws are too small to be deterministic.
the beaver would stop being busy every time in a deterministic world.
No.8948
>>8944> or cjoose which reality you live inassuming you include physics as part of this reality, i would be interested how you interpret "our" current understanding.
as far as i understood, our best model to represent physical behaviour is to think of it as waves, thou this model might be lacking.
a wave always has more than 1 dimension. if you try to force or determine one of this dimension you either need an infinite amount of space or an infinite amount of overlapping waves, which is only theoretical possible.
am pretty confident in that statement. doubt we - or any intelligent being - will ever be able to do that in practice.determinism only exists in theory.
you decided and made the free choice to believe in this theory.
i would recommend reading Gödel
Maths or Heisenberg
Physics as a starting point to embrace the beauty of free will.
stoopid hooman No.8949
>>8948Ok, now apply your reasoning to a clock.
Does a clock have free will because of quantum mumbo jumbo waves and shit?
Nope.
besides, I don't see how any of that relates to whether the universe is deterministic or not.
I've seen this thrown around a lot "quantum physics means free will / no determinism" and nobody bothered to explain why would a a particle being a wave or being unable to measure X and Y at the same time or whatever the fuck would mean the universe isn't deterministic.
>everything's a wave so there's free will???
a bit of a leap there.
No.8950
>>8949you are super-imposing your world view on physics.
just because you believe something to be, it doesn't automatically exist.
sure, your parents might tell you about santa claus and even go as far as trolling you with random appearing gifts - but it doesn't change the fact, that those gifts came from your parents and not from the imaginary old guy you believe in.
> >everything's a wave so there's free will> ???> a bit of a leap there.i don't think, you understood what a "wave" in this sense is. it actually isn't that big of a leap at all.
if you don't want to look into physics, that is fine. maybe you still want to look into math and logic, thou.
what is your take on Gödel's incompleteness theorems?
>>8948> Gödelpoor Hilbert. his deterministic world view got so thoroughly fucked by Gödel, that he ended up losing all will to live and starved himself to death.
wiki says "pernicious anemia", thou. fake news !! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hilbert#Death No.8951
>>8950You keep name dropping science words you heard on youtube and using them to make inappropriate claims.
explain to me how everything being waves prevents the universe from being deterministic.
And Gödel's incompleteness theorem just says there are certain things (in math) that you can't prove by using math. It makes no physical, or even metaphysical claims.
None of these things imply what you think they imply, you should stop watching indian pseudobuddhist inspirational videos on youtube.
No.8952
>>8949i gonna try to explain it with humanitarian "science" *cough*
i am not good with humans, thou. it might miserably failyour clock point looks at a different picture. it is way too big compared to what i was trying to focus on.
for example if you look at all of humanity, it is easy to point out (determine) certain things where nobody would even consider to object. as an example something like
> humans are stupid.if you look at a single human, it gets harder to determine; you need more information. and what about a newborn?
and at what point are we starting to consider someone hooman? :3you can look at a clock and see where the hand is pointing at. but you can't point at the electrons making this hand. best you can do is a probability density estimation.
it's like saying "welp, this newborn might turn out this or this stoopid".
if you could watch that newborn grow to old age, you are still not getting the full picture of how stoopid dat hoomen is. only a selection based on the reality it experienced.
theoretically you could rebirth him again and again and again and put that hooman to all possible reality scenarios. now you could determine
> this hooman is exactly this stoopidbut you would need an infinite amount of time for it.
same with propaganda.
aim propaganda at an individual and it is very likely to fail. aim it at the masses and it is easy going; child's play, even.
the problem for a full on 100% deterministic world view is:
it isn't enough to determine big chunks. you need to be able to determine every single small tiny itzy bit. else the whole thing isn't vegan.
no typo :^) No.8953
>>8951> you should stop watching indian pseudobuddhist inspirational videos on youtube.now i wanna check something like that out; might be good for the lulz.
you got any recommendations? :DD
No.8954
>>8951> you should stop watching indian pseudobuddhist inspirational videos on youtube.now i wanna check something like that out; might be good for the lulz.
you got any recommendations? :DD
> explain to me how everything being waves prevents the universe from being deterministic.i would recommend wiggle wiggle wiggle i posted a while back as a start for understanding waves. it explains it a lot better than i ever could.
No.8955 KONTRA
>>8950> Gödel> Hilbert> paranoia starvinglike always, this Ernst isn't a reliable source. lurked the wiki a bit more.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del#Letzte_JahreGödel was the one not eating.
No.8956 KONTRA
sry for spamming, but this is a topic that really triggers/interests me. gonna stop after this post>>8951> And Gödel's incompleteness theorem just says there are certain things (in math) that you can't prove by using math. It makes no physical, or even metaphysical claims.my point with Gödel's incompleteness theorems is:
If the only thing we are able to proof with logic/math is, that we cannot determine everything... how can you believe that everything is deterministic?
We've already proven that is not the case. Either submit a formal error report of the proof or proof that everything is deterministic.
Yes, we sometimes have wrong/faulty things in science/math/logic... but you gotta disprove it; not just ask the same question again. i can only point you towards the answers we currently have. No.8957
>>8956>If the only thing we are able to proof with logic/math is, that we cannot determine everything...
>If the only thing we are able to proof with logic/math is, that we cannot determine everything...>the only thing>onlyYou really ought to be more precise with how you phrase your arguments when talking about something as complex as Gödels incompleteness. This one word already makes your premise incorrect, I don't even have to look at your conclusion.
t. has actually done the math as part of 2 years of work in computational theory
P.S.: Using Gödels math to talk about determinism has been done before and many different conclusions have been made. As far as I'm aware none of them hold up to any measure of proof. Thus the current state of the art is: We don't know if the universe is deterministic, even though we know that it's impossible to make certain statements and prove them.
No.8959
>>8957have you looked at BB? (busy beaver)
i would say it is pretty darn good at approximating where the line between deterministic and non-deterministic is within our current logic.
No.8960 KONTRA
i should rly, rly stop sending posts too soon and re-read and think about if i wanna add something else.
> We don't know if the universe is deterministic, even though we know that it's impossible to make certain statements and prove them.
Yes, within our current logic we cannot say it. I would agree. I was just counter-fagging the brick.
My first post prolly is most accurately depicting my actual current view point. I do believe it might be possible that there is a parallel universe that is deterministic, but, after playing around with BB, i doubt ours has the capability to be. I would assume a deterministic universe has to be eternal. Our current universe seems to be more of a blip. Maybe a change-able-pseudo-eternal blip ~along the lines of the ship of Theseus where you take the view point that it is a new "ship" or, in this case universe
But, welp, i don't rly come past this "we don't know" myself.
No.8961 KONTRA
Two pseudo-smart assburgers in a dick-waving contest
Stop talking about things you have no knowledge of. With your 'liberal' 'arts' education, you worthless little maggots can Not even Beginn to comprehend the foundations of computational theory. You ise established terms in an imprecise manner, you are unable to make formal arguments, you have no discernable grasp on the foundations.
You probably should be talking about the worthless bullshit crooked-eyed kikes and frenchmen wrote in the sixties, or at least explain some dike-theory in why the band of a turing machine is phallic and why computational theory is racist, sexist and eurocentric.
Or better flush yourselves down the toilet, since I have never even heard of pseudo-persons remotely as worthless as you are. Spare the world and end yourselves.
And no, I will not teach you. What disgusting vermin you are for wasting minutes of my life with the retarded bullcrap you mistake for arguments! I swear on me mom, both of you are mongoloid retards.
No.8963 KONTRA
>>8961> Stop talking about things you have no knowledge of.wasn't that your point, thou?
> Thus the current state of the art is: We don't know [...]we two pseudo-smart assburger mongoloids are state of the art intellectuals.
No.8964
>>8961Will this phone poster be able to introduce me to computational theory or is this just bullshit?
No.8965 KONTRA
It’s just encoding information using a binary system.
No.8966
>>8965So, like all sexually reproducing organisms?
No.8968
math is just a language game anyway
No.8971
>>8959>>8960Interesting points, thanks. I can't really add anything worthwhile without doing some serious thinking at this point, but maybe I'll play with BB myself in the meantime.
>>8966All known sexually reproducing organisms* are using a base-4 numeral system (aka Quaternary) and not a binary coding scheme.
*is it necessary to qualify 'biological' as well if it's already qualified as 'sexual'?
No.8972
>>8970Thank you for enriching my day with this post.
I wanted to post the tom hanks t.hanks image but apparently that has vanished from my directory, could anyone re-post that for me, please? No.8975 KONTRA
>>8971It was a throwaway line about two sexes needed for reproduction and wasn't meant to go deeper, plus all organisms have dna, so it's not necessarily confined to just the sexually reproducing ones.
And it depends on whether you count rna differently.
No.8976 KONTRA
>>8970Attended a child's birthday party recently. The gifts included a whole
toy Miele kitchen. A grocery store labeled
toy shopping basket with
toy products with real branding.
Toy power tool sets both from Bosch and Black and Decker.
Disturbing.
I of course gifted them with some iShares Core MSCI World UCITS ETF USD (Acc).
No.8982 KONTRA
>>8976>Pay for planting brand addiction into children's headsWhat for? You can get that for free.
No.8984
Damn this one went fast