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 No.20034

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In the last few months we slacked off a little considering moderation on /int/, and there was a lot of bickering, some Russia/Ukraine shitposting, and similar things. When we started out with top, we promised that moderation on /int/ would be stricter than on /b/, because /int/ historically had less shitposting, and is generally considered to be the more serious board. However, that hasn't been the case recently, but there were no reports or complaints on /meta/ so far, so maybe there is no need for more moderation. In addition, each time we asked whether we need more rules, Ernst said it wasn't necessary. So we thought about either removing the hint about stricter /int/ moderation from the global rules, or alternatively return to the earlier moderation style.

Since the board should be how Ernst enjoys it most, we'd like to hear your opinion, mods would be fine with either outcome. Note that /pol/-shilling, especially in unrelated threads, will always be banworthy, no matter how Ernst decides, so no need to fear to be overrun by pol-schizos when the rules stay relaxed.

 No.20036 KONTRA

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So far so good.
Since I work fulltime now I don't have time for extensive bickering anymore I will ocassionally hurt some comedians feelings, though. Unlike the other German(s) I cannot or do not post from my work machine.
Since it already has been a few months since I picked up a fulltime job I am surprised the perception is with more bickering the last months even though I argued long and wide while being unemployed before that. Maybe I don't monitor the threads to closely anymore.

 No.20037 KONTRA

>>20036
You certainly don't fail to make everything about you everytime you post.

That said, /int/ is a very boring place full of boring people; I think the danger of getting too many shitposters beyond the anal violence guy and the odd cabbage is very low, but I would keep the part with the stricter moderation in order to discourage undesired behavior in the first place.
Obviously one could argue that the people affected by that wouldn't care about or even read the rules in the first place. There is no but here because I have finished my thoughts.

 No.20038 KONTRA

>>20037
>You certainly don't fail to make everything about you everytime you post.

I was probably responsible for a significant amount of traffic together with you and maybe some other German when I was unemployed. And doubtless this posting often ended in heated shitposting.
Look, it already starts. Hope you are not the comedian :DDD

 No.20044 KONTRA

You could try to moderate the Chud German a bit more sometimes imho but otherwise not much is happening.

 No.20047 KONTRA

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haven't rly posted/visited much in the last 1-3 months. -> can't rly comment on recent (perceived?) changes

> /int/ is generally considered to be the more serious board. However, that hasn't been the case recently, but there were no reports or complaints on /meta/ so far, so maybe there is no need for more moderation.

from my point of view, the mods always did a decent job and if i reported something it was just to help 'em out a bit. or to start a discussion on meta :DD

the lack of reports might just reflect a blind trust in the mod teams competency?

How many posters/visitors actually ever used the report function even once? Isn't it something like ~80% lurkers ~18% posters ~2% thread creators .x% pseudo mods? :3 just pulled some random #numbers outta ma ass
What i am trying to say here basically is: the human is a lazy fuck. Reporting is work.

I would argue the mods do a decent job, if nobody is reporting or complaining about lack of moderation. Might just loose the finn for a while.
This community seems small enough, so that the mod team isn't 24/7 just reacting to reports. This gives the luxury of pro-active moderation, which doesn't seem to be abused.

Idk, how bad last few months? :o

 No.20053 KONTRA

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>>20047
>Might just loose the finn for a while.
#BanAllGermans

 No.20056

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>>20053
I hope there is smartness where the finn is :3

perkele :((((

 No.20066 KONTRA

>>20044
Which one?
:-DDDDDDD

 No.20231

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Looking back, not much changed when we migrated from xyz to top.

The schizos and retarded bickerers Germans continue to roam the streets, catching what seems like a day's ban on the occasion. Thus the disillusionment eventually set in.

>>20053
My greatest ally. There will always be room for you in my sauna.

 No.20232 KONTRA

>>20231
>leave for undisclosed reason
>do nothing to improve post quality or make quality threads
>come back to complain

That said, why would top be different from xyz in terms of posters? People left xyz because of a dumb shitmoth having a meltdown.
If you have any serious suggestions as how to improve this board, go ahead.
inb4 ban all germans

 No.20234

>>20231
Please tell me, whom do you want banned and for how long?

 No.20235

>>20231
You're overly sensitive. Like OK, schizo sometimes has rants, even if you don't find them funny, they don't disturb meaningful interactions among sane people anyhow. But no, you're perfectionist, you want everyone and every post to be nice.

>>20232
He probably returned because it's winter soon and you have to sit at home and browse internet as it's cold in Finland.

 No.20237 KONTRA

>>20234
That one looks jewish, and that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
If I had my way, I'd all of you shot!

 No.20238 KONTRA

>>20237
You're a funny guy, Ernst. I'll ban you last.

 No.20239

All hail Weissbier

 No.20240 KONTRA

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>>20232
I'm not sure if you intended to post this to >>12098 but I'll reply anyways.

To your manufactured quotes I'll say this: The thread concerns the moderation of /int/. So please try to bear with my presence while I leave some parting words on the hopes of the board some day becoming a better version of itself. Hopefully to better retain newcomers or returning posters.

>why would top be different from xyz in terms of posters?

Nothing to do with my previous post. The point was that moderation was supposed to be better on top, but almost nothing happened. Sure, I occasionally see a ban message on a schizo post, but the post is still there and he's back the next day. What exactly did the ban accomplish? The inane bickering continued from xyz to top.

>If you have any serious suggestions as how to improve this board, go ahead.

Your post is a prime exhibit why I don't post here anymore. It seems like you didn't even read my incredibly short post before replying and dragged in a bunch of unrelated bullshit to bicker about. This, in my opinion should not be allowed.

A moderation stance that allows endless bickering and placates schizo ramblings is antithetical to facilitating serious discussions.

>inb4 ban all germans

Ban all Germans.

>>20234
Sorry but I've been out of the loop for a while so I can't provide a comprehensive list. With a cursory look ITT and the first page of /int/ I can point out to these:

1 month: >>20232
2 weeks: >>20186
2 weeks: >>20226
1 month: >>20227
88 minutes: >>20237
60 minutes: >>20239
1 year: >>20240

To make it clear, the rampant shit/schizo posting that was allowed to go on in Ukraine threads finally caused me to go look out for alternatives.

The main problem seemed to be that at some point moderation just gave up Ukraine threads. This in my view is a big mistake. If you're going to tolerate violations of sacred serious discussions on some topic but not another, you are making a value judgement on the topic. And if you do this without clear communication (e.g. banning the entire topic) you're going to burn some people who are interested in deeply engaging with it. Additionally, that bad experience also puts you off from creating any new serious topics. Why go through the trouble? For what?

Of course the issues aren't limited to Ukraine thread. Bickering and low quality shit flinging repeatedly occurred in today threads for example. Even as the thread is not very serious in nature and topics come and go, why is it okay to be a complete asshole? Maybe I'm wrong and the people engaging in bickering greatly value it. They're mostly Germans, after all. Can't pretend to understand.

>>20235
You're mostly correct. I don't want every post to be nice but generally made in good faith. It's also very unfortunate to see your (or Omsk's?) bait posts that are at times very difficult to differentiate from what you actually believe. Been a while so I might be misremembering this and can't point to any specific post.

In general what puts me off from posting anymore is that I don't want to spend time writing a post with any effort, when the reply will either be completely retarded bickering, a schizo post, or the post I was replying was a bait to begin with. As a result I noticed how my posts became shorter and shorter, and mostly consisted of complaining pointing out G*rman crimes against humanity.

Continuing to post here wasn't enjoyable which meant finding a place that suits me better and simply writing stuff for myself. Engaging on discussions should result as something greater than the initial post. I don't feel like it's the case here anymore.

 No.20242

>>20231
>There will always be room for you in my sauna.
Ei buddy, you can just ask to see my penis :DDD
Speaking of, interesting cultural dialectics with gf. Apparently seeing your immediate relatives naked is a very shocking concept but showing your cock and balls at the sauna to acquaintances (at the sauna!) is acceptable. Odd northern cultures.

 No.20244 KONTRA

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>>20242
If you're that shy about your benis we can go for a swim in a frozen lake before. Then there's absolutely no chance of me seeing it x--------DDD

Can't relate with the shocking part. Good luck with the gf and dog bless.

 No.20255

>>20240
>It seems like you didn't even read my incredibly short post before replying and dragged in a bunch of unrelated bullshit to bicker about.
It's just banter mate :-DDDDDDDDDDDD - but funny that you reacted to that post like a german would.

But seriously, it sounds like you had different expectations to what top should be than basically everyone else, especially concerning the Ukraine thread, which could have never been expected to be anything but a trashcan thread.
I mean, I would welcome stricter moderation, especially with regards to actual shitposting, but it's a discussion I have already had with mods in the past. But I also understand that banning the schizo is a fruitless endeavour because he's of that special (as in special ed) kind that he will actually get another IP to continue his retardation, and that is something that can only be resolved by real life violence.
Although I think more important than banning the schizo would be banning the people actually interacting with him and especially the one german larping in that fashion.

In general, mods are too nice, and that's a factor in what killed xyz.

Last, however, your whole post seeps with butthurt and you seem rather thin-skinned right now, which has never been my impression of you before. I will not assume things about your private life, but this is "just" an imageboard, there's no reason to let it get to you like that.
And "not making threads because shit" is an excuse I won't accept on EC. This is not the 4channel where a good thread will get drowned out immediately by an ocean of shit, but as someone mentioned in the other thread, Ernst interests are very narrow, so it's not necessarily a good place to talk about certain topics. But how can you know if you never try? But I understand your sentiment.

 No.20319

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>>20242
>Speaking of, interesting cultural dialectics with gf
Is she Finnish?

 No.20320 KONTRA

>>20319
Polish. At least she's naturally a Russorealist.



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