No.21821
Sold my PLTR puts today!
One month of holding a highly leveraged position worth 2,5k and I made a grand total of... 2,8k Euros.
Mistakes were made, but things were learned as well.
First thing first, for some reason I believed my puts would run until end of month, but just now I saw that they would actually run due at the end of this week, despite me adding the correct note to that position in my brokerage.
Idiocy number one. Know your tool, fool!
Then the whole ETF inclusion play on a highly overvalued stonk, good in theory, but executed way to early.
I should have waited the whole inclusion week out before buying in, the week afterwards would have been the perfect moment to buy some pootz.
Not quite an idiocy, but inexperience. Valuable lesson though!
Then, once more, don't let yourself get lured by too much of a leverage.
Take the expiration date you aim for and slap a month for safety onto it.
Would have been in the money last week already while still having time for further drops, even if that thing would expire end of month as I wrongfully believed.
That's an idiocy for sure, driven by greed for high multipliers... 25-30x leverage is enough, doesn't need to be 50-60x.
Anyway, glad that I still made my money back and can continue some gambling until I finally hit my 2025 tax credit loss.
But damn, those measly 300 bucks were exchanged for heart blood and soul sweat.
If I would have bought the same puts right after inclusion week, I surely could have made 10 grand without breaking much sweat, seeing how far they were down at times.
No more plays for now, only holiday.
No.21849
The future of warehouse automation. Unfortunately this company, Slip Robotics, is privately held. I ran down a list of names in the field and most are included in ROBO. That's a small ETF with low volume and barely 1 billion in assets. It has also traded flat for the past year. Either the tech is not profitable, or the market has yet to see its potential. Hmmm...
>>21821>No more plays for now, only holiday.The markets have been sideways for large caps and down for speculative plays. A tough month which has me sidelined as well. Money Market and chill.
>>21785>invest in your social capital if you expect bad times.PUTS on my social game are guaranteed to print money. I don't expect civilization to collapse, but anticipate a market correction and likely recession. But I have expected this a year now, so what do I know?
No.21852
>>21851While the tech is incredibly efficient, it seems people are still cheaper than robots. Yeah, I actually recall writing something similar in another thread some time back. Well...no get-rich-quick investment, but on the other hand job security.
No.21865
>>21852In many scenarios, an AMR can not do much more than an AGV.
Unit cost for a small to mid sized machine is about $40.000. They will need charging stations. Specialized handling equipment is often necessary. A complete implementation will almost certainly have six-figure cost per unit. Return on invest depends on the concrete scenario.
No.21874
>>21849>>21851I see the upcoming robotics trend is here already too :3
So far only SERF on my watchlist, as I haven't looked into all that too much, some look like pretty small caps for the risk of pump and dumps tho.
Maybe I slowly nudge into PLTR puts again, once the good CPI data are fully digested and there's more fat on it again.
I see them at 40 at some time in the future.
No.22038
Bought some Nasdaq puts.
Seems like a volatile week, let's crash this filth.
And we'll build back better with my proceedings and that juicy, substantial yearly bonus that caught me completely off guard.
No.22098
This is only loosely finance related, but what advice could Ernst give career-wise? I'm in my second year of college (technically) and still have no idea what I want to do for work.
No.22102
>>22098If you have no passion and simply want a paycheck, become a financial analyst. Banks throw piles of money at my brother for querying databases and reconciling variances. He hates the job, but it pays.
>>22093What was the expiration date of your Nasdaq PUTS?
No.22107
>>22102End of March I think.
Seems as the bounce back of NVDA might take some more time as well.
I should prolly just stop gambling again and throw it all in my ETF...
No.22109
>>22107>I should prolly just stop gambling againNothing wrong with stepping back, especially when eating a loss hurts more than missing a run. Funny thing: for a brief period last year I was losing on every trade and decided to change my perspective. I wouldn't trade at all and viewed the money I probably would have lost as a gain- since I still had it.
Despite my bearish nature, even I know ETF and chill is a guaranteed winner in the long run. I'd do it, but I like to go to sleep at night knowing exactly how much money I'll wake up to. It's a character flaw.
No.22110
>>22109>NVDA +6%Forget what I said, go Nvidia!
Daddy needs some more Thai femboys!
Sounds like you are just to risk averse.
It's a very common trope around German speaking cunts, especially when it's about the stock market.
Do you park your money in bonds? They still seem to give rather nice returns, now with Powell all hawkish and naughty.
No.22111
>>22110>Do you park your money in bonds?Idle cash is swept into a money market fund by my broker. When I buy and sell the cash is automatically withdrawn, settles in 1 day, and then goes right back to work earning me a risk-free 4%.
>NVDATfw we have lived to see a trillion dollar corporation swing like a penny stock.
No.22128
>>22111Thought about putting some cash into bonds or such while interest is still high as well to be fair, I just have no clue how they work.
I know that bond ETFs are garbage, as they continously rotate their bond holdings, so they loose value or whatever during a dovish environment... I guess?
I'd like to buy some US 10yr bond just via my broker and hold them until maturity, if that would be possible.
Anyway, ASML smashed their earnings and reported a fat order book. Already 10% up again. Nvidias ER next month will hopefully be sames.
Already ~300 Euros/15% up on me calls :3
No.22146
Sold with a loss against.
No more gambling, all into the holy SP500 ETF and chill.
Welcome to the bear market.
No.22717
With today I am 2/3rds into cash, feels strange shifting such amounts of cash around and if you would have told me that I would no longer have absolute trust in the US a year ago, I would have burst into loud laughter.
🥭 man just can't be trusted, even readjusted my savings plan to half/half SP500 and EU STOXX 50 and a 20% increase in funds deployed monthly.
More is going into downpayment of my mortgage, as those are profits ain't nobody can take away from me anymore, also increasing my regular cash savings account.
The surprisingly fat bonus for last year surely comes at the right time.
Orange man and his babby faced, chubby sidekick ain't gonna destroy my dreams of living of capital abroad in wonderland.
When will Biden storm the White House and gun them down with akimbo M16??
Wake up Biden!
No.22736
>>22717Be careful, that's a poor man's thinking. Rich man sees new opportunities in the changing world instead of whining about them.
No.22738
I want to invest a lot, but stocks and etf are too high, so I cant buy anything. I am mad
No.22750
>>22738Buy penny stocks. Easy.
No.23248
Saving money is easy. Just diversify them and don't do impulsive gambling ("trading").
Raising money is a more important issue. It helps to be competent at your job but there is much more than that. How are you careermaxing, Ernst?
No.23249
>>23248>How are you careermaxing, Ernst?I put my head down a few years ago and started grinding hours and overtime. I do very little outside of work, and only make necessary purchases. It's a simple plan which has provided me sufficient funds to
invest gamble.
>>23246SPY down 2.5% after hours since Trump started talking. That's...not so bad, right?
Like you, I expect further decline. It's not a crash, but a slow bleed.
No.23250
Happy Liberation Day!
A day that most likely will go down in history as the start of the next worldwide financial crisis.
>>23249Should have bought pootz, but it's just like the Mar a Lago Accord dictates.
Euro gaining nice in value against the Dollar.
Thai Baht also back to 37.5:1, which will sweeten my next holiday with some extra monies.
Now we wait for the announcements of counter tariffs around the globe and the forming of new trade blocks.
EU probably going to draw the Trump card of digital service tariffs.
Ironically it was the WTO that banned tariffs on "electronic emissions" including services and digital goods, the same WTO that Trump stopped to pay their share.
No.23310
>>23250I love the tariffs! President Trump showered who b the shit hole countries who's boss. Now weak pathetic leaders like Flintenuschi and Fotzen-Fritz and the smelly frogeater need to come crawling Washington and beg for what they can get - but they won't get it for free! They will need to make concessions! Stop trade restrictions! Let people but the great American goods they desire! America is done being plundered and ripped off by shit hole countries! Let their shit little crap economies collapse if they don't comply! They want to cheat America in trade, but can't even protect sea routes, because they are too weak and gay! They need to pay!
No.23328
That feel when i sold my MSCI World and some other stuff just two or three weeks ago. Slowly rebuying incoming.
No.23329 KONTRA
I didn't buy much last 1.5 years, just hodling. Got more retarded than usual today and sold all MSCi world small cap (buying that was a mistake) for roughly the price at which I bought it in 2023. I could have sold higher if I had waited for the evening. I went into gold and gold miners instead, which probably was a stupid idea.
I hope I'm done panicking now. Wake me up when AW01 hits 400, then I might consider buying.
No.23334
I was hoping the tariff drama was going to be short-lived. The president would get bored and find another way to stay in the headlines. Now? While the man himself certainly has not thought this through, Trump is surrounded by people who are fully committed to reorganizing global trade around their own untested theories.
>The best outcome is one in which America continues to create global peace and prosperity and remain the reserve provider, and other countries not only participate in reaping the benefits, but they also participate in bearing the costs.
>What forms can that burden sharing take? There are many options, here are a few ideas:>First, other countries can accept tariffs on their exports to the United States without retaliation, providing revenue to the U.S. Treasury to finance public goods provision. Critically, retaliation will exacerbate rather than improve the distribution of burdens and make it even more difficult for us to finance global public goods.>Second, they can stop unfair and harmful trading practices by opening their markets and buying more from America;>Third, they can boost defense spending and procurement from the U.S., buying more U.S.-made goods, and taking strain off our service members and creating jobs here;>Fourth, they can invest in and install factories in America. They won’t face tariffs if they make their stuff in this country;>Fifth, they could simply write checks to Treasury that help us finance global public goods.>The long run is here, and the models are wrong...More recent economic analyses allow for the possibility of persistent trade deficits that resist automatically re balancing, which is more in line with reality in the U.S. They show that by imposing tariffs against exporting countries, the U.S. can improve economic outcomes, raise revenues, and impose huge losses for the tariffed nation, even with full retaliation.CEA Chairman Steve Miran Hudson Institute Event Remarks https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/cea-chairman-steve-miran-hudson-institute-event-remarks/
>Miran’s central thesis revolves around tariffs. Not as simple protectionist tools, mind you, but as levers to fix a broken global trade and currency regime. In his mind, the United States has been a chump for decades—bearing the burden of a reserve currency, overvalued exports, and trade deficits that hollowed out American industry. His solution is to impose sweeping tariffs that would, through the magic of international finance, cause foreign currencies to depreciate, thereby offsetting the price increases from the tariffs themselves.>It’s all very clever, until you realize that in the very next breath, he proposes a Mar-a-Lago Accord—an international deal where America would pressure its trading partners into strengthening their currencies. That’s right. First you want their currencies to fall, then you want them to riseSane-Washing Trump’s Tariffs: The “Master” Plan Doesn’t Make Sense & Isn’t Being Followed https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/06/sane-washing-trumps-tariffs-the-master-plan-doesnt-make-sense-isnt-being-followed/https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miranhttps://www.apolloacademy.com/what-is-the-mar-a-lago-accord/tldr: tariffs are free magic money for the US and the Trump administration is crashing this plane with no survivors.
No.23335
>>23334Enjoy your inflation, starting from ... What is that? Now? Congratulations, I guess. In the meantime, I will be busy enjoying the bankruptcies and lay-offs.
> they can stop unfair and harmful trading practices by opening their markets and buying more from AmericaMandate every man, woman and child to buy at least one Ford F-150, or face death by strangulation. The Vietnamese will enjoy leniency. Since their head of state was the first to say 'Uncle', they will only have to ditch their Hondas for Harleys.
>bearing the burden of a reserve currencyImporting and borrowing at a discount while enjoying a constant influx of investment capital is a burden when all you ever wanted to do is standing at an assembly line and putting together toaster ovens, or sewing T-shirts for a quarter a piece.
>tariffs are free magic money for the US Kind of jelly they found the glitch.
No.23355
>>23334Today will be another Bad day on the Stock-Market. It is going down like never before
No.23356
>>23355I Love how Trump just doesn't care about 'the markets' and rich people's money. (Plus a free edge-lord kids who want to play 'rich dude' buying stocks and stuff.)
He is just taking out the rich people, it's all meaningless to n normal people and has now effect for the real world, it's just a casino where rich people make more money by cheating and exploiting poor people. Announce layoffs-> stock goes up -> made fuckton off money.
It's over now for wannabe trader dude-bros!
No.23358
Got sum pootz yesterday and got rid of them this morning, probably going to crash further but whatever.
Also another 3k after tax some days ago.
Yet sad to see the last remnants of my ETF saving slowly melting from +40% to now about 5%... fuck Trump, with Sleepy Joe you could sleep tight while your money accumulates.
Still unsure what to even buy once things calm down, maybe the USD will loose the reserve currency status, which will leave US companies with much smaller multiples going forward, while they still aim to devalue the USD further.
>>23334This orange idiot actually thinks the whole world willingly submits to him collecting tributes.
EU answer was weak as expected, we're not even through with the countermeasures for the tariffs on metals a month ago, meanwhile Chiner simply escalates.
No.23360 KONTRA
NO CRYING IN THE CASINO!
No.23362
>>23358>EU answer was weak as expected, The Hungarians, Italians and Irish want to just pay, so we can only impose small tariffs on dental floss.
No.23365
Thanks Donni :3
No.23367
Donny Dump & Pump & Dump & Pump :3
Sad that I haven't slurped some stonks, but maybe I can snag some OMV tomorrow for the dividend.
No.23369
>>23367Bought some yesterday and on last Thursday.
No.23375 KONTRA
>>23329>Got more retarded than usual today and sold all MSCi world small cap (buying that was a mistake) for roughly the price at which I bought it in 2023. I could have sold higher if I had waited for the evening. I went into gold and gold miners instead, which probably was a stupid idea. And somehow, my net worth is now higher than it would have been without the regarded trading, thanks to the gold producers. I won't pretend that was anything but dumb luck.
No.23397
US Bonds escalating again and the USD already at 1.13 to the Euro.
US stonks will come in much cheaper in the future...
No.23402
>>23401>China as the larger trading partnerDJT desperately wants the remaining blue countries to turn red.
No.23405
Trump dodged a disaster from the bond market, but the damage isn’t over yethttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/10/trump-dodged-a-disaster-from-the-bond-market-but-the-damage-isnt-over-yet.html
>Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, insisted that the move to delay the additional tariffs was the plan all along
>“But it wasn’t the bond market that made a panic move, because there was a very systematic, well-planned move that was just about to happen that just turned out to be the same time.”It was a well-planned move and not Trump backing down because his tariffs were triggering a likely recession. Very systematic. No one plans better. Lol. We're screwed.
No.23411
>>23405lol you know that Trump is winning right? Europe practically begged him to end the tariffs.
No.23421
>>23376It's because they are dumb sheeple. 'Retail investing' was invented by the stock-exchange-gangsters to rob people of their money. They need someone to whom they can sell their worthless papers. Retail idiots think they are 'buying the dip', while in reality, the prices are fixed by real traders to where they want the to be. Idiots are to dumb to see through this and think they get free money.
What a bunch of pathetic wannabe Jews
No.23544
>>23249> I put my head down a few years ago and started grinding hours and overtimeDoes it help you to advance your career? Or you just get paid extra money for overtime, but without grade-ups and exponential growth?
> only make necessary purchasesMe too (almost). I can cook my food instead of eating out, it's not much in effort/result ratio (because my labor costs more than labor of average cook), but I want to cook as a hobby anyway.
Questions of science of careermaxxing:
1) Job-hopping or streak-maxxing?
2) Results-maxxing or responsibility-maxxing?
3) Socializing with boss and other coworkers. Howto?
No.23551
>>23544>Does it help you to advance your career? Or you just get paid extra money for overtimeBoth. Hard work earned me a reputation and recognition from the higher ups. That turned into a promotion with more money and more responsibility. Now, though, I look at the next step up- what my boss has to deal with. I like my job more and have likely plateaued for the foreseeable future.
>Questions of science of careermaxxing:1). Streak-maxing. I hate change.
2). Results. I don't really like responsibility, either. I have enough.
3.One coworker has been to my house one time. We were both on a lunch break and I live close. Other than that, no socializing.
Howto? I hear other people make plans often enough. One guy asks another if they want to head to some place or other. I've been asked a time or two. Said no thanks, ofc. Seems natural if you get on well at work.