No.318 KONTRA
>>248>I'm not writing an OP edition.
In that case: I'm not posting a reply.
No.436
‘There’s Just No Hiding’: Inside the Self-Defense Class for Landlords
https://capitalandmain.com/theres-just-no-hiding-inside-the-self-defense-class-for-landlords
>“[a]s landlords and property managers, we can be subject to verbal and/or physical attacks by renters or tenant groups,” the event description explains. “Unfortunately, the media portrays us as ‘evil.’”
>“We’re afraid,” agrees a mom-and-pop landlord who declined to give her name because she was worried about anti-landlord bias.
>“The only thing that hasn’t been done to us is painting us with horns and a tail,” Yukelson says. “We don’t even say ‘landlord’ anymore, because anything with lord is bad: landlord, drug lord.”lol.
Does ernst personally know your landlord? Is he/xe evil?
Me: yes, and yes. He's alright on a personal level, but the prior tenant was driven out by a 30% rent hike. Kind of a dick move for a home the dude already owns and which requires minimal maintenance.
>>318You fell into my trap :D
No.459
So, some interesting news from the EU:
5 countries (Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands) have proposed a EU-wide ban of the group of PFAS [1]
>Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFASs) are synthetic organofluorine chemical compounds that have multiple fluorine atoms attached to an alkyl chain.This banhammer would hit around 10.000s chemicals from being used in sold
products (but not for use in production in general, as far as I understand).
What I find interesting about this case is not the arguments for or against,
but the situation. A gigantic lobby group is against this, using the typical
lobby tacticts we know, as is expected, sure.
But where usually a ban of chemicals would be based on their toxic effects, or
strong suspicion of toxicity (this is the EU, not the US, suspicion can be
enough here because consumer lives are supposed to value above company revenue)
this case is about banning 10.000 substances of which most have not been
studied.
Here is the fascinating part: One reason for banning the entire group is past
experience with _with irresponsibility of the industry_.
Quoting from [2] (translation below):
>"Bisher ist es doch sehr oft so gelaufen: Selbst wenn ein echtes Verbot>drohte, ist die Industrie nicht auf erwiesenermaßen harmlose Substanzen>umgestiegen, sondern auf ähnliche, unregulierte Vertreter der gleichen>Stoffklasse, die eben auch nicht unbedingt weniger schädlich sind."
>In the past it went down like this: A ban of [specific dangerous substances]>has not caused the industry to switch to proven harmless substances but>instead to unregulated substances from the same group/class as the ones that>were banned. Those aren't necessarily less dangerous.So instead of repeating this pattern, the 5 countries are proposing a ban of
the entire class of chemicals.
What's important to note here is that a large part of the body of studies done
on those substances and compounds are financed directly by the affected
industry and the available studies that can be considered neutral is apparently
thin (haven't checked myself because I can't verify this claim anyway).
Note that the arguments in my post are all around the decision making of
banning stuff that isn't researched because of past experiences with the
industry. In other words: Lawmakers trying to catch up to industry practice of
avoiding detrimental effects of regulation.
This post contains _no_ arguments about any of the chemicals itself. Simply
because I have no insight and thus shouldn't have opinion on anything
chemistry.
Also, if someone has international sources, that would be helpful, because my
only source here is in German [2] and that means only the germoids and the
hungarian translator can read it.
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substances[2]
https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr-wdr/pfas-eu-lobbyismus-101.html No.468 KONTRA
>>459Cease your investigations.
Banning the whole group would be an effective measure. The problem is that these chemicals are used everywhere in industry. For example, how are you going to make semiconductors without PFAS? Keeping that in mind, the countries involved are strange. Why would they want to kill their semi industries?T. 3M shareholder and a lobbyist for big cancer
No.469 KONTRA
>>459What an incredibly dumb quote.
Of fucking course will I use a substance that has similar properties to the one used before, so of fucking course I will just use the next closest derivative.
What else would I do?
If I want to have an unrelated substance do the same I would first have to find and test it, which is of course a monetary thing, but more importantly a matter of time.
This post contains no arguments about whether the ban makes sense or not (personally I certainly prefer the EU way), just about my irritation with that quote.
No.470
>>468As far as I understand (which is not very far) it's targeting products and not production. Are the chemicals in question part of the semiconductors in the sold product or are they only used in the production of materials but not in the final product?
I'm asking because I really have no idea.
>>469How does that qualify as "dumb"? What you're saying is that the decisions of the industry are obvious and trivial because they make sense from their perspective. Did you think anyone disagrees with that?
If something was "dumb" then I'd say it was/is the naivity of previous bans (assuming they were meant to be effective in some way).
I read the quote as a statement of recognition rather than an accusation. I guess that's where we differ? Or was my translation bad?
No.474
>>470I was referring to the rather naive sounding quote in German. The tone of it ticked me off because it implied simple malevolence instead of simple pragmatism (which of course might be a negligent one), plus absolute ignorance of the reason(s) why such a substance has been used in the first place.
>Yeah companies are evil, so they did the obvious thing instead of literally anything else.I didn't read the article, so maybe in context it would have had a different effect.
No.475 KONTRA
>>474Addendum: I just realized that the style of that quote is similar to the one of a certain adipose berlinian entrepreneur, which might be the main reason I found it irritating.
No.662
>>473>Most of the PFAS are used in the photolithography processNope. These substances are used _everywhere_, from non-stick pans to functional outdoor clothing, heck even in some cosmetics. The Wiki article for PFAS is a good starting point if you want to know more.
No.1313
German goverment has decided, as of today, to decrease the government size.
In practice this means to simply eliminate the so-called "overhang" mandates, which grow from candidates from an electoral district being able to become an MP from winning the direct vote (for candidates) even if their party doesn't reach the - until now - required 5% of overall votes.
As a direct effect, this would lead to the leftist opposition party being kicked out of the government, among other things.
But more specifically it would completely rob the small parties of any power, leading to a further consolidation of power of the big parties. Remember it's a Red/Green/(Yellow, only until they find a way to kick them out, too) government. Self-proclaimed social democrats and enviro-friendly wokes.
The debate was heated, but it was "democratically" decided to go through with it. The leftist party complained and got ovations from the bavarian ultra-conservatives, that's how fucked up this is.
Let's see how it fares at the constitutional court. Please refrain from koting/schizoing, this is a matter beyond left/right, but we can all agree on who are the backstabbing rats - social democrats.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-seeks-electoral-reform-to-avoid-xxl-bundestag/a-54694043 No.1337
Following the recent death of American tourists, some Congressman wants to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations. Not gonna happen because of the political and military implications, but this line caught my ear:
>“We’ve seen some horrible graphic videos that have come out on social media over the years, and it’s nothing short of terrorism,” https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/03/13/expert-warns-mexico-terrorist-label-would--kill-u-s--mexico-relations-#Seems he's been lurking gore threads.
No.1384
>>1337Is it safe for Americans to make a holiday in Mexico? Especially in tourists areas like cancun?
No.1385
>>1384Generally, yes, tourist areas are safe to visit. My sister went to Cancun with no worries, and I've walked through the border area in Tijuana without feeling I was in danger.
No.1386
>>1385Those tourists too probably weren't feeling they were in danger until it was too late...
No.1408
The University of Helsinki has awarded 20-year-old Swedish environmental activist Greta Thunberg an honorary doctorate in theology.
No.1409
>>1408>an honorary doctorate in theology.Pretty good trolling, though I'm not sure if they are aware of it.
No.1410 KONTRA
>>1408I can only find links to obscure alternative media? Where did you get the info from? RT?
No.1411 KONTRA
>>1410Ok found it the university page. Meh, 30 people get their h.c including her. But then, why should we care? She got other recognitions as well before.
No.1412
>>1411I think it's supposed to illustrate just how worthless h.c. are and that you can now even get them without any kind of lifetime achievement whatsoever like other people.
That's not to say h.c. have never been simple political/publicity awards.
I also remember a website where you could buy them, perfectly legally.
No.1420
>>1408Pretty good joke.
Fun Fact: Merkel collected 18 honorary doctorates.
No.1737 KONTRA
>>1735Dmitry Medvedev%%The fools in Europe wanted to arrest someone else's, and on March 21 they will arrest their own in America. Take back your country, Americans! To battle! Destroy the tyranny of Washington! Send to the stinking trashcan of history a corrupt clique of insane ukroswine-lovers - the father and son of the Bidens! MAGA🤡🤡🤡!
P.S. The post was posted at the request of US presidential candidate colonel Daniil Fedorovich Trump.%%
No.1924
Finland is now a member of NATO.
"I'm delighted to report that just a few moments ago, Turkey deposited with me, on behalf of the United States, Turkey's ratification of the instrument for Finland's accession to Nato, and with the receipt and submission of that protocol, I can say that the protocol is now in force," Blinken said.Stoltenberg then handed over the formal invitation, on behalf of all member states, to foreign minister Haavisto for Finland to become a member of Nato. In turn, Haavisto deposited Finland's instrument of accession with Secretary of State Blinken."With receipt of this instrument of accession, we can now declare that Finland is the 31st member of the North Atlantic treaty," Blinken confirmed.https://yle.fi/a/74-20025750 No.3022
https://index.hu/kulfold/2023/05/07/szlovakia-eduard-heger-zuzana-caputova-pozsony-miniszterelnok-felmentes-ratislav-kacer-samuel-vlcan/The Slovak government collapsed following some crisis and so they are stepping down and handing over the country to an interim "bureaucrat government", which will be headed by a Hungarian banker.
Butatóts on suicidewatch
Total magyaroid victory
No.3451
>>3448https://myrotvorets.center/criminal/kissindzher-genri/> Participation in the information special operation of Russia (aggressor country and terrorist) against Ukraine.> Spreading the narratives of Russian-fascist propaganda and blackmail - nuclear war, global decline, famine, migration shock, the advance of China, etc. in exchange for the truncation of Ukrainian territory (minimum - as of February 24, maximum - without Donetsk, Lugansk and the entire south, including Odessa).> An accomplice in the crimes of the Russian authorities against Ukraine and its citizens.Based
No.3608
>Periodic table, evolution cut from Indian textbooks
>Outside of science, topics such as democracy and governance have also been severely diluted. Scientists fear this overall move to expunge some of these foundational topics will facilitate a climate ripe for superstition and unreason to fester.Unacceptable horse shite to cut education, Modi and other Hindatuva cucks with their "Ancient
Indians Hindus had internet and shit" have to be removed from power. Without education poo will stay in the loo, or in other words: India will stay a shithole.
>https://www.dw.com/en/indiadropsevolution/a-65804720Meanwhile the other Ernstchan is flooded with shit like CP and copypasta, fuck the Internet. China is shit, there goes my trust into India becoming great in the future (I am only half kidding).
___Sunday opinion polls: AFDs steady rise within 5 months, what did I do to deserve this. Useless AFD cucks went from 10% to 18% something within 5 months, great, I blame the economic situation unless agitation was stepped up.
https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/sonntagsfrage-sieht-afd-als-zweitstaerkste-kraft-mit-spd-a-db3ba801-0a0d-4804-8ff0-a4ac105480d6____
Beset by muh peace scum, tinfoilers and AFD cretins: German Chancellor Scholz throws angry response at chants of 'warmonger' | DW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cvvXpshFHYtl;dw(hue): He tells protesters Poot invaded.
No.3611 KONTRA
>>3609French parliament serves as a mouthpiece for globalists.
No.3612 KONTRA
>>3608>I blame the economic situation unless agitation was stepped up.Yeah it's always perfidous and very clever nazi propaganda, not indeed people being fed up with the *exceptionally* shitty job this government is doing.
No.3613
>>3608>Poo will stay in the looIn India, poo will stay in the designated shitting street.
No.3615
>>3614I should've said: Without educashion's poo will NOT go or stay in the loo.
>Russia says it thwarted major Ukrainian offensive, Kyiv says Moscow spreads liesHahaha, no.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-its-forces-thwarted-major-ukrainian-offensive-2023-06-04/ No.3769
I wonder what evangelical christians think about Canadian wildfires.
Do they rejoice, because they expect the rapture and the second coming of jesus?
No.3782 KONTRA
>>3769I’m not really sure what Evangelical Christians do can be categorised as “thinking”.
No.3787
>>3769From my exposure to evangelicals, they interpret everything as a part of God's plan. All things work toward the greater good, even when we can't imagine how. The fires will affect something which will affect something else, and somewhere down the line a man will find Jesus because Québec burned down. It's important to remember that, from a certain religious perspective, a human lifetime doesn't matter and neither does the suffering we experience. All temporary when measured against eternal life.
Drake - God's Planhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVfcZ0ZcFM>>3782Also, this.
Oh, Pat Robertson died.
https://apnews.com/article/pat-robertson-dead-christian-broadcasting-700-club-91299d0953c014ca6860fe545cac793e No.3799
>>3798Huh, well, there goes another one.
If you want to know more, I found this one rather interesting:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-letter-to-a-turkish-anarchist No.3809 KONTRA
>>3798I find it really distasteful how people are memeing his death. (And more broadly how his ideas have been turned into shitty ironic memes for gay zoomers.)
No.3821 KONTRA
>>3809Ted would have looked down upon you and your use of iproducts. As a traitor you are sentenced to life long silence in judging the dilution of Ted's ideas, especially since you have partaken in lip service to his ideas via the internet, probably within a certain bubble even.
does anybody even read his later books? No.3832 KONTRA
https://myrotvorets.center/criminal/berluskoni-silvio/An accomplice of the Ruso-fascist invaders and terrorists.
An accomplice in the crimes of the Russian authorities against Ukraine and its citizens.
Deliberate violation of the state border of Ukraine (Yalta, Autonomous Republic of Crimea, 09/11/2015) together with Vladimir Putin.
Self-liquidated at 06/12/2023 No.3845
Maybe Ernsts capable of the Germanic language will be interested in this piece on the potential of civil war in Russia due to conflicts among elites and private forces
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/russlands-privatarmeen-100.html No.3846
>>3845Russia is going to have its bourgeois revolution a century after it already had its proletarian revolution.
Truly dialectics work in mysterious ways.
No.3856 KONTRA
>>3846Some Russian o-toned is making a comparison to the October Revolution
No.3929
>>3881Where will you migrate to?
No.3931
>>3929Why migrate? It means Hungary will defend against Germans coming there to rob the country. It means Hungary will continue to not serve the neo-German empire that is the EU. It means there will be no woke bullshit comissioned by Sorros himself taught in Hungarian schools.
Do you maybe have some company in Hungary were Hungarians are enslaved for your profit?
Down with EU, Down with Brussels, down with the slave-masters of Europe!
No.3935 KONTRA
>>3929I'm gonna vote with my money. By which I mean I just ordered a Dugin book from them.
The inner-city intellectuals are freaking out because this is the gravest possible transgression against something they hold to be a sacred right (which is a media-institution they can claim is independent while having captured it).
Now their only options are:
>Give up selling their books in the biggest bookchain in the country>Sell books at Libri but become Orbán-adjecent and dirty by proxy I feel like that the last election was a wake-up call for Orbán that he cannot just rule indefinitely through raw political power, which is why he probably sped up his party's long march through the institutions.
That's why he's trying to break the teachers' union and why he reined in the universities.
>>3931You are incredibly naive if you think Hungary isn't Germany's bitch when it comes to economics.
2bh it's my conspiracy theory that most of this Hungarian renegadism in the EU is just a pre-arranged little choreography that allows Germany to give up on unpopular liberal policies through Hungary's veto.
No.3941
>>3935> I just ordered a Dugin book from them. They are unbearably boring as I remember. Unlike his youtube videos which are often entertaining. Anyway, good that the books exist, he has to maintain image of a serious bearded philosopher, without which his "hot takes" would sound not so funny.
Also, which book?
>>3845Holy shit I recognized that voice, that's an outstanding schizo, and I'm ashamed to be internet addicted enough to know about him. Why would Germans invite him?
But yes, there's something going on between Wagner and MoD anyway.
No.3942 KONTRA
>>3941It’s titled “Eurasian Mission”. No clue if it corresponds 1:1 to any of his books in Russian.
I already have a Zhirinovsky and a Limonov book, I gotta complete the ru-schizo trinity.
Looking up the press that put it out (Kárpátia Stúdió) they seem to be semi-government adjecent. At least the chief editor is a former columnist connected to the far-right of Fidesz.
He’s called Árpád Szakács and a few years ago he pushed the wrong buttons on both sides with an article series titled “Whose cultural dictatorship?” where he talked about how the opposition-adjecent artists keep accepting grants from Orbán’s trusts. This also brough to light the uncomfortable fact that while Orbán claimed to fight liberalism, in practice his trusts and government institutions kept awarding and giving posts to ardent liberals adjecent to the pre-2010 governments. Funny stuff, politics.
No.3953
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-parliament-expected-back-sex-reassignment-surgery-ban-2023-06-14/Russia is very nohomo now.
Not like I'm a fan of these operations myself, but the situation is pretty disgusting. Bandits sent their children to west with stolen money, became butthurt by "critical gender theory" in their curriculum in Oxford, and as compensation are banning things for their serfs.
No.5428
Koreans invented room temperature superconductivity.
No.5429 KONTRA
It's insane how news sites feature
sports on the front page.
>>5428Holy grail tier. Hope it's real.
No.5432
>>5428I hope it’s real.
Imagine how much better iPhones and MacBooks will get using that stuff!
No.5531
https://www.republik.ch/2023/07/22/die-maschine-die-zukunft-des-faschismus-folge-2A German language article about a machinic fascism on the rise. A fascism that works by stupid automatisms that don't need a leader like Hitler anymore to work.
An interesting essay and it reminded me of the schizo who reads like a bot. Automatism triggered by some keywords or events.
No.5532
>>5531>article about fascism>Trump pictureBooo! Get new material!
No.5533
>>5531>>5532Okay, after reading that mess, I understand the choice of picture.
It's funny though how much one can write about nothing.
The author is clearly still extremely butthurt about Trump because he probably raped him with a broomstick or something, and everything is still broken inside. Which is funny because right in the introduction he talks about how devoid of actual content this "fascism" is and how it only appeals to the feelings.
He also only talks about perceived "fascist" mechanisms of action while completely disregarding the left (or politics/media in general) employing the very same mechanisms. I am pretty sure I could dig up counterexamples for every point he made.
He talks about how people are drawn to the right because of a lack of trust in politics, but for some reason, this is all the doing of the "fascists", and apparently the people making the politics that lead to a loss of trust are completely innocent.
Also, it is never actually specified what "fascism" actually means, except for "People I don't agree with doing things I don't like".
And this is something that has been bothering me for quite some time, because it only diminishes the atrocities actual fascism (or national socialism, which is also distinctly different from "alt-right" or neonazis) conducted, and as someone with a family history of victims I find that pretty insulting.
What I am also missing is why the middle class is afraid of social decline in the first place.
Not a single word about what the non-fascist, non-liberal politics have actually done to improve anyone's life. In the mind of the rightoid, they *are* the ones trying to improve people's lives.
More talk about anti-gender bullshit than any rightoid could write about gender bullshit (while at the same time talking about the staunch anti-science stance of the "fascists", ironically).
There's really a lot to process here, but nothing that would actually yield an actual insight.
Like one commentator mentioned, it's just the same bullshit, just from the other side, fueling the very divide that is criticized here.
It's just preaching to the choir, inside a bubble, within a specific target audience.
I am not as good with words in english and I also don't have the time to write an equally long rebuttal, but if this is the level the left are arguing on, the rising right is not a surprise.
Also, funny you mentioned automatons triggered by certain keywords - I bet you can get an automated response from this author by just mentioning Trump.
No.5534 KONTRA
>>5533>this is all the doing of the "fascists"The article argues that fascists are doing everything to destroy the trust in the democratic system, yes. Why? because it helps them getting into power as the "alternative". Fascism perhaps can then be loosely defined as enemy of democratic politics. The whole article is about fascism that comes on the back of demoratic politics. It's classic of politcal theory of democracy: that a democracy has the potential to undo itself. Did you understand that the US is argued for as magnifying glass in what is to come and how it works? The other example of a model is Hungary. It is basically about certain actor and their actions to end democratic politics and democratic institutions. That is fascism together with the method. One method is getting the middle classes to join your cause and build on their effects, just like Hitler/NSDAP did btw.
>it only diminishes the atrocities actual fascism (or national socialism, which is also distinctly different from "alt-right" or neonazis) conducted, and as someone with a family history of victims I find that pretty insulting.Did you know how actual fascism started? Certainly not by gassing people you don't like.
>family of victimsVictims of what? NS? Nobody talks about NS here.
>What I am also missing is why the middle class is afraid of social decline in the first place.The article is part of a series. And what does it change? It doesn't justify a fascist politics, or does it, to you?
>while completely disregarding the left (or politics/media in general) employing the very same mechanismsExamples?
I don't see how leftists and liberals try to systematically destroy a democratic mindset and democratic institutions. If we go by definitions this would absolutely not make any sense btw.
If the biggest problems a society can have are Klimakleber than you are fucked in the heda.
Anyway, you didn't day much, disregarding everything as bullshit, very deep analysis, kudos.
No.5535 KONTRA
>>5534>The article argues that fascists are doing everything to destroy the trust in the democratic system, yesThe fascists aren't doing anything but using the distrust to their advantage. What people like the author and you don't understand is that it's not the machinings of some fascist world conspiracy that works to undermine democracy, it is, as you also mentioned, democracy itself that undoes itself. If those in charge would actually do anything good (and communicate it as such to the people, VERY IMPORTANT POINT!, instead of talking down to them), those "fascists" wouldn't have any ground to gain in the first place.
It's a homemade problem and complaining about "fascists" without addressing the root cause of the problems just shows the basic problem of how this situation could arise in the first place.
>Did you understand that the US is argued for as magnifying glass in what is to come and how it works? No, the author didn't mention it a single time, and it's not like it isn't a well-known principle that sooner or later any bullshit from the US will arrive here.
>Nobody talks about NS here.Are you seriously arguing that by misusing the term "fascism" there are not clear allusions made to NS?
>It doesn't justify a fascist politics, or does it, to you?What does justify using a hollow beat-all term? What are "fascist" politics? Doing things that are deemed obsolete by the so-called "progressive" people?
>Examples?For example the author talks about making laws progressively more oppressive. Now let me ask you, which parties have been making the most "ban" laws in the past years? Who has spearheaded general surveillance after 2001? Who has just recently finally managed to change the law in such a way that direct mandates will be basically eliminated and as such transforming the parliament into a mere party representation organ?
Of course you will now say that those are all fascist ideas and right-wing politics.
The author also talks about a "crusade against everything". Ok, the left doesn't crusade against everything, just against everything white europeans have created. And it's pretty funny how the author uses exactly those things and presents them as set, as post-fact, as *established*, in order to be able to frame the right to being able to crusade against them in the first place.
"Propaganda of cruelty" - because the Rote Flora never had anything like "Nazis jagen" written on their walls, and "It's ok to punch nazis" is something anyone could say at any time. I'm not saying that I wouldn't punch a nazi, in fact I am not a pacifist and someone attacking me will of course get attacked back, but you can't just fight nazis with nazis methods and then point fingers. I also remember the case of that one rowers whose boyfriend is or was an NPD politician who then was banned from the olympic team. Guilt by association, very democratic. Looking at the US example we could also talk about the poor marginalized trans people shooting up schools, talking about killing cis people, widespread anti-white hate (even if it's just a reaction to the perceived racism).
Illiberalism is a nice buzzword, but it's as hollow as anything else the author says.
What I also found very funny is "fascism is not an end result, but a process" that will always continue. Sounds pretty much the permanent revolution that anti-fascists are such big fans of.
1/2 because of puny character limit
No.5536 KONTRA
>>5535>I don't see how leftists and liberals try to systematically destroy a democratic mindset and democratic institutionsDid you know how red fascism (see what I did there?) started? Perhaps it started by discrediting everyone not in line, accusing them of being "fascists" while robbing the term of any meaning, all while expanding the surveillance and censorship apparatus they learned from their eastern bloc colleagues (because let's face it, the classical "Gestapo and strong leader cult" kind of dictatorship has proven to be highly ineffectual in the long term).
Just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean it's not there.
Ask yourself this: How can you, the citizen, partake in political decision making? Can you, at all? Or is what the government does simply completely decoupled from what you actually voted for? And if so, what is the functional difference to a regular dictatorship? Apart from the latter one being fortright about it being a dictatorship.
>If the biggest problems a society can have are Klimakleber than you are fucked in the heda.If the biggest problem a society can have is the need to "include" everyone_*/%In by butchering your language, then you are fucked in the heda.
>Anyway, you didn't day much, disregarding everything as bullshit, very deep analysis, kudos.The analysis was exactly as deep as deserved.
But that's exactly the level we are arguing here: Accuse the other side of what you are doing.
No.5538
>>5533That's 2k23. You should be pretty familiar with SJWs and don't pay so much attention to them. Same as you wouldn't read long article by Scientologists and then write serious post deboonking it, this is just aspie tier.
>>5536>I don't see how leftists and liberals try to systematically destroy a democratic mindset and democratic institutionsWho stands for electronic "voting" in west? Leftists and liberals. Basically their main line is that enlightened bureaucrats should make decisions instead of stupid proles fooled by "populists" and "misinformation".
No.5539
>>5535
>The fascists aren't doing anything but using the distrust to their advantage.They actively work on destabilizing the distrust even more. That is what the article argued for. They not only use it, they fuel it to use it even better.
You are right, the cause is certainly to be looked for in social organization, economics, and so on. But that is not what this article is about. This article is about fascist strategy and tactics in the beginning of the 21st century.
>fascist world conspiracyThe article provides numerous examples of why fascism is on the rise and how that works. You actively use the word conspiracy to make people look like those loonies beliving in lizzads. Unlike these lizzard people there are arguments that are backed by data (laws getting changed, events registered).
>No, the author didn't mention it a single time,Then you didn't read the article in full or overlooked it. I give you another chance to find it.
Die USA bleiben eine brauchbare Glaskugel [the last sentence after events the whole article is plastered with events in the US which are juxtaposed with events in Europe where Hungary is a specific example of it can work]
>it's not like it isn't a well-known principle that sooner or later any bullshit from the US will arrive hereOh yeah Mr. Cool and Clever has to mention that everybody under the sun knows culturak imperialism is rampant, damn Amikäfer, nobody is safe from bullshit, bullshit here bullshit there bullshit everywhere, why to use words other than bullshit? Itäs all bzllshitt and we are getting bullshitted, see how wise I am because I know it's all bullshit
in case you didnt get the hint: labeling all things bullshit doesnÄt help in taking you seriously in a debate. The problem: the author explicitly said "die USA
bleiben eine brauchbare Glaskugel" which means he agrees.
>Are you seriously arguing that by misusing the term "fascism" there are not clear allusions made to NS?For me the relation is this: NS has been a specific form of fascism, but not every fascism is a national socialism as it played out in Germany. Albeit, people whose descendants lived in Germany under national socialism might be familiar with some things happening as described in the article, so I don't think that they necessarily disagree with the author when he labels these actors and actions fascist.
>What are "fascist" politics?I gave you a definition already that I also think is guiding the author in a sense.
But I see what you want to go for: we are living in a progressive eco fascist society were meat consumption and diesel cars aren't allowed, where men cannot make a joke anymore
what happened to freedom of speech? without losing their jobs and that is also fascism. I get that you are seeing yourself in the sane middle position, the only sane position of course. And left and right are the same because they have enemies that they fight against. I wonder who are the enemies of liberals and do liberals never kill and silence people? Anyway, what this perspective completely neglect is the differentiations (for example one by race/ethnicity and an adjacent culture with rightwingers, then sex/gender, class antagonism are solved through a "Volk" that "transcends" class. Factory owners and workers for the good of the nation, the race etc.) made by these politcal positions and how they are very different. All political positions, even liberal positions work by excluding if that is what you think is a problem, I have bad news for you. Politics is about power. However, the distribution of power and what this power is used for is not always the same.
No.5540
>just against everything white europeans have createdDoubt. Sounds like you consult fascist media that tell you that is the case. As the article said, every white man in the NZZ had the opportunity to speak about freedom of speech and wokism and cancel culture.
I guess those white engineers of wind parks are in trouble now. This form of energy is woke but the left would also not want this because it has been created by white Europeans, right? But how do lefties get this together with their view on climate
hint: they take what white Europeans have created because they are not against this creation nor engineeringYou try to paint right-wingers or conservatives and left-wingers or progressives as the same, but you confuse it with what politics is in general among other things: a question of power and struggling for power, changing the distribution of power.
>>5536
>Can you, at all?>[are we really living in a democracy?]That depends on what you think democratic politics is. Germany is formally a representative democracy which means you delegate your power of making decisions to others (not all political/decision power though).
What I personally think about our political system and if labels live up to realities is not a thing I want to discuss here.
the answer is probably no
>If the biggest problem a society can have is the need to "include" everyone_*/%In by butchering your language, then you are fucked in the heda.I don't think it is the biggest problem we face and neither do others. Albeit democratic politics should strive to include people that by definition are to be part of political processes and society. The language is surely not the best way to do it. But that is just distracting from the content of the article that does not demand politcally correct language. You create a straw man.
The article, however, points out how transgender and "wokeism"
I like how wind energy is supposedly a woke form of energy production is said to be threatening society while transgender people are getting murder threats, actually get killed or have to leave their homes because of harassment.
>The analysis was exactly as deep as deserved.Or you were just too lazy too put in some work and brush things off like most people do.
You are pulling the Hannah Arendt card, the Karl Popper: everything but liberalism is totalitarianism. And right now we are living in an eco trans progressive dictatorship that is challenged by a rightwing totalitarianism because the small and sane people don't like this eco trans butchering language dictatorship. Will you be on their side when the time is ripe? Do you want to take revenge and run over a Klimakleber without getting fined and locked up once it's habbening? They are looking for people like you that have enough of the dictatorship, it has gone too far!
No.5542 KONTRA
I might also add you might confuse my own position with that of the author. What I think is necessary, needs to be preserved or changed probably does not align with the author. Albeit, both the author and me have a problem with what is called fascism in the article and tied to certain actors, discourses and actions.
No.5543 KONTRA
>>5542>Albeit, both the author and me have a problem with what is called fascism in the article and tied to certain actors, discourses and actions.Yes, and that is exactly what I am debating because it is NOT tied to certain actors, and provided according examples. It's like saying being emotional is tied to women.
>>5540>You try to paint right-wingers or conservatives and left-wingers or progressives as the same, but you confuse it with what politics is in general among other things: a question of power and struggling for power, changing the distribution of power.And how exactly is that a contradiction?
>Germany is formally a representative democracy which means you delegate your power of making decisions to others (not all political/decision power though).Yes, the power of decision making. It's a division of labor, because someone has to pull a levers or steer the wheel to reach the designation. But is a truck driver deciding where the cargo gets delivered to?
I like the german word "Volksvertreter". It tells us exactly what a politician is supposed to be and do: To actually represent, i.e. act in my interest as the people (Volk), and carry out the will of the people.
And the way that I am supposed to be able to have influence on that is by voting for parties (not people anymore) that align with my views (provided such a part exists). But as time has shown, parties will NOT act how their voters would like them to act. If I vote Green for peace, family and environment, I get war, more strain on families (and a disgusting lack of support for those less well-off, but then again, those are more prone to voting right-wing, so fuck them!) and if you follow the news, the Greens haven't particularly done really anything for the environment, except maybe hollow symbol politics that give their zealots a nice feeling of moral superiority.
So voting for a certain party will also not ensure a certain political direction. Imagine the Blues come into power. What then? They will fuck up as badly as anyone else with as little care for the people and their interests as anyone else.
>I don't think it is the biggest problem we face and neither do others.And I don't think Klimakleber are the biggest problem, what is your point?
>The article, however, points out how transgender and "wokeism"[...] is said to be threatening society Prove the opposite. Prove how feeding into a delusion can actually help people. Prove that it's not wrong to make prepubescent kids undergo hormone therapy because their parents are insane (currently happening in the US, so look into the magnifying glass).
While we're at it, shouldn't we should tell all depressed people to kill themselves, it's the very same principle.
And I will stand by that until it has been proven that the people who are making their mental illness their whole identity and think the fate of society hinges on them getting a special bathroom are NOT mentally ill.
And the worst thing about this is that the people who are supporting this the most are also those who, by all other means, are always pointing towards "scientific facts" (ignoring that the main reason antivaxxers and homeopaths could survive to the present day was their acceptance among the eco-green left).
They will cry about "Lügenpresse" when they are the ones getting called out, but will gladly talk about "fake news" if it fits their narrative.
>Or you were just too lazy too put in some work and brush things off like most people do.ORRRR I just didn't feel like writing an essay about the horrible leftists in my spare time without getting paid for it, especially considering how utterly trivial this article is, unless you're a teenager, or my mother.
>[last paragraph]Nice polemics, take a look into the mirror.
No.5544 KONTRA
>>5543>it is NOT tied to certain actors, and provided according examplesWhat you try to argue for is that both leftists and rightoids are the same *fascists, dictatorship worthy or according to Hannah Arendt, they are both totalitarian** because they use the same methods.
Which brings me to the next point:
>And how exactly is that a contradiction? Using the same methods boils down for you to they struggle for power by doing this and that. That is why they are the same. But liberals also struggle for power and use methods. Hence my question if these also try to silence people, kill people etc.
Just because they use the same methods struggling for power doesn't mean they are the same politically. They don't have the same goals, they take different standings towards how a society should look like, which is a political question foremost.
And since their postitions are different, these actions and goals that are trying to be achieved are tied to certain actors, discourses.
> But is a truck driver deciding where the cargo gets delivered to? From what I said it can be concluded that this question will be answered with a no.
>I like the german word "Volksvertreter". It tells us exactly what a politician is supposed to be and do: To actually represent, i.e. act in my interest as the people (Volk), and carry out the will of the people. I think it is not very useful since parties represent different interests and the idea of a Volk then is questionable. They should be called Interessenvertreter instead.
>If I vote Green for peace, family and environmentI think it was clear before the last government election that the greens are Europeans that will support pro-European groups and states. If you think the greens are still a copy of the 1980 you are naive and have not informed yourself.
>So voting for a certain party will also not ensure a certain political direction. Imagine the Blues come into power. What then? They will fuck up as badly as anyone else with as little care for the people and their interests as anyone else. Yes. I haven't said that what has happened for the last decades has been a good thing. Notheless is the rise of that position concerning to me, it is a direction even worse. Take the Texas example from the article. Wind energy is made difficult because it is part of the woke ideology even though Texas supposedly is fairing well with it.
>Prove the oppositeWhy should I? That is your part if you think it is.
>Prove that it's not wrong to make prepubescent kids undergo hormone therapyYeah might be too early, might be late in some cases.
A former friend of mine revealed itself to be trans years after we talked again. For her (him) not getting permission to take hormones is a problem that takes a toll on the psyche.
>mental illness prove that it is
>think the fate of society hinges on them getting a special bathroomhyperbolic stylizing. Other than that, we can hear this argument about toilets everywhere but they rarely exist. The only a place I know of are universities where they changed some of the men's bathrooms into genderless toilets and rarely will you see any trans person there or nonbinary. It's not a big deal. I have never seen one going to university for seven years while spending whole days there.
No.5545 KONTRA
>ORRRR
Your posts are trivial and would stay so even if you would get paid for it. As you like to say: get from your high horse.
>Nice polemics
The part about Hannah Arent and Karl Popper is valid and true and the rest is not completely invalid. You agree that mental illnesses are reigning, perhaps wokeism is the next stage if you don't fight the illness?
But I won't side with fascists as described in the article, even when we share the method of excluding other political positions. The difference, however, is that I want to see fascists authoritarian loving, socially differentiating by race, religion, 'merit', and gender/sex, denying climate change for the sake keeping everything as it is, this goes for rich people as well btw, I'm not blaming people for having no alternative than using there car to get to work doing a job they hate but need to survive and feed their kids, but I blame the argument that this has to stay and doesn't need to change being excluded from determining politics.
No.6943
> burning man is feek news
are they burning those men now or what?
No.6944
>>6943Who are you quoting, who referring to?
It's been known that burning man was cancelled for weeks because the desert was flooded.
https://mstdn.ca/@chad/110937116343525565 No.7002 KONTRA
>>6947>70.000 dirt-hippy-wannabes (not even real dirt hippies) with way too much money on their hands stuck in the mud during a pseudo-alternative highly commercialized fuck- and drug-festI have a very hard time concealing my glee.
No.7017
>>7002>I have a very hard time concealing my glee.Believe in yourself a little more, I'm sure you are able to overcome your weakness.
No.7018 KONTRA
>Burning Man
>hippies
lol, lmao even
You probably think Rock am Ring is still aboout "rock"
No.7021
>>7018> no true ScotsmanThis is why you dirty hippies are so hated
No.7586
>>7432>That's not because handegg fans are more well-behaved thoughSome drunken behavior in the stadium is expected, but generally doesn't spill into the streets. Unless you win a championship. Anyway, this just happened.
New Hampshire man died after being punched at Patriots game, witness sayshttps://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/sep/19/dale-mooney-patriots-fan-death-gillette-stadiumI like how they mention the outcome of the game at the end.
No.7587
>>7002This could be us at Фуизн 2029 <3
No.7588
>>7021That comment has nothing to do with the NTS fallacy
NTS example:every hippie smokes weed. If a hippie doesn't smoke weed they don't count as a hippie, therefore the statement about all hippies smoking weed is still true
No.7591 KONTRA
>>7588Didn't you make this exact post on xyz a while back? What is it about the misuse of the fallacy that gets you this excited? Curious.
No.7632
>>7591I don't think so but it's possible.
Pointing out fallacies is appropriate, and if it's not done when they occur then there can be no serious discussion about anything.
No.7633 KONTRA
>>7632and similarly, it is appropriate to intervene if someone uses fallacy related terminology incorrectly. Fallacies cannot be correctly identified if people don't understand what they are and are not
No.7667
It was only a matter of time before this becomes a regular occurrence and I'm surprised it took this long (it's obviously not the first occurrence, but it's big enough to be reported on a mainstream news site):
https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-09-18/in-spain-dozens-of-girls-are-reporting-ai-generated-nude-photos-of-them-being-circulated-at-school-my-heart-skipped-a-beat.htmlImagine growing up as part of the first generation that won't ever know a world where there is a distinction between "real" and "fake" images/videos. Not talking about paranoid individuals but the normies here. How will we communicate our values to the young folks that are being born now?
No.7681 KONTRA
>>7667There are now apps that enable every knobhead to make these kind of fakes, unlike earlier systems where you need a powerful computer and a bit of brain and experience to properly set these things up.
But there's a very simple solution to that problem.
No.7779
>>7667Futile. They will just laugh at you for being so pathetic. Remember the teacher who complained that kids can't do mental math anymore because they have calculators? Remember the kids who openly laughed at that teacher?
You don't communicate values to young people, you (literally or figuratively) beat values into them after you beat the arrogance out of them. This is why we used to have insanely tough math lectures in engineering, were >50% of beginners were sieved out. Part of the utility was to teach young people that they really know nothing so they should shut the fuck up and listen to their elders.
No.7782 KONTRA
>>7779>This is why we used to have insanely tough math lectures in engineering, were >50% of beginners were sieved out.>used to haveWe still have those. Every semester this comes up again at my uni. I was sieved out this way once during one of the first semesters in Calculus. More than 80% failed the exam and there was lots of whining on both sides until the AStA had to step in and negotiate.
Happened again last semester with >70% failing the exam, but this no longer concerns me since I've completed all math classes.
I have some opinions on this but don't think they're worth sharing tbh. Kontra because off-topic.
No.7788 KONTRA
>>7782I find sieving a way better concept than NC or something like that tbh.
No.7790 KONTRA
>>7667Also, imagine being part of the first generation for whom it was normal to have their illustrated lives on the internet, in many cases against their will. These people go on to become teachers, bosses, public officers etc., but then face recognition and face search come around so their pupils, subordinates etc. can find embarrassing videos and photos of them, which are harder to explain away because all this slightly predates sophisticated fakes being widely recognized as common. The preceding generation didn't need to worry so much about such things happening to them, and the following generation already grows up with a constant awareness of everything they say and do being recorded, "shared", published and archived forever against their will, and takes care to act accordingly. The middle generation gets retroactively screwed by tech developments unforeseen by them.
No.7794
>>7790I could imagine that with time "embarassing" content is more accepted and not cared about so much. Maybe not for porn but for example telling a story that reveals delicate details on social media. With the fakes it is interesting because it will really strain the lines between reality and fiction that is already going on. People could always defend themselves with it being a fake. Mind you, fake-detection tools might also improve.
No.7805
>>7667>Imagine growing up as part of the first generation that won't ever know a world where there is a distinction between "real" and "fake" images/videosThis, on the other hand, can also turn into a twisted kind of freedom where you can distorte reality by creating new images of yourself or just casually mask a reality as a fake etc. A world in which fake nudes exist of everyone is a world where nudity becomes a regularity to a degree and so on and so on
No.7806 KONTRA
>>7794>>7805I was kinda late to the hivemind it appears.
No.7807
>>7805It's just the next step in a world where people only interact via alternate reality avatars and sex is a commodity. Oh, and something something total surveillance 1984 reference
No.7810
>>7807>sex is a commodityThat's not exactly a novelty.
No.7812 KONTRA
>>7810He does not seem aware that we are already living in the future.
No.7814
>>7794I could imagine that with time "embarassing" content is more accepted and not cared about so much.
Even if that were to happen, there would be a delay between tech advances and culture following suit.
"Tech advances" sounds like I'm talking about a
Civilization game.
>>7806I stepped in for you but am not well trained at bickering I think?
>>7810Right, and more to the point, the current trend goes the other way, with prostitution and porn getting effectively quasi-abolished in legislations around the world. Like "we don't censor porn, but you must register with our national database of porn consumers and identify yourself for each purchase or access", or "we don't criminalize paying for sex, but it must all happen within this official system, because everything else is just all sorts of crime against humanity".
But because this is the news thread, what do you think about this recent sequence of events:
27/28 August 2023:
Reports surface of a meeting in person on neutral ground between the foreign ministers of Israel and of one of the two rivalling Libyan governments, where they had allegedly discussed things like humanitarian aid from Israel and water management. The meeting had not been authorized by the Libyan head of government. True to form, Libyan citizens in the capital react to the news by rioting to protest their minister talking with the enemy. On 28 August, the Libyan minister is being dismissed and flees the country.
10/11 September 2023:
Libya experiences water management problems killing thousands or even tens of thousands of citizens. The head of the Libyan government promises that the country will "only accept aid that is deemed necessary". End of story so far.
Those happenings would look even more like a lesson in "you reap what you sow" if the Libya that had chased out its Western-groomed female minister over her humanitarian aid talks had been the same as the one that was then devastated by the water, but the government mentioned here is the one based in Tripoli, whereas the deaths occured in the area controlled by the rival government based in Tobruk, prompting affected citizens to protest that government.
The Tripoli protests against the minister's performance bring to mind how the first post-Gaddafi elections resulted in an almost all-male parliament that booed and laughed a female elected member of parliament off the podium, apparently simply because of her being a woman, when she attempted to address the assembly. On a totally unrelated note, it is alleged that many Libyans' parents are each other's first-grade cousins. To sum up, I don't think Libya is going to stop being a failed state tribalistic shithole any time soon, in particular for any female citizens who try to challenge the male-managed shitholeness.
Parts of this post have been sponsored by the State of Israel. No.7824 KONTRA
After purchasing back TAP, our national airliner is being re-privatized.
In the old days, political rotation was a part of this process. The socialists would buy it, the social-democrats would sell it. However, the socialist party has been dominating every election, so they had to be ones playing the role of austere neoliberals.
I say this with all seriousness, the most patriotic thing any citizen of this republic could do would be to conduct a systematic bombing campaign on TAP assets (destroying the planes but not harming any person!)
No.7829
>>7824From "democratic" two-party system to a dictatorship of proletariat. A big step towards communism on a ladder of progress.
No.7838 KONTRA
>>7829>From "democratic" two-party system to a dictatorship of proletariat. Despite being called the Socialist Party, they are actually just another strand of Social Democrats - that's right, what any revolutionary worth their salt recognizes as the worst form of fascism. We may be drawing closer to the inevitable end of the oppressive system, but it mutates into its worst forms as it dies.
No.8334
How about some less draining and negative news for a change?
>After 27 days of A12 blockades and more than 9,000 arrests, the Lower House is asking the cabinet to come up with a phase-out path for fossil subsidies. Extinction Rebellion welcomes the adopted motion[1], and concludes: civil disobedience works. In the coming months, thousands of rebels will keep a sharp eye on what’s actually being done. They are ready to take to the streets again if necessary. Action training will also continue.https://extinctionrebellion.nl/a12-blockades-netherlands-effective-lower-house-asks-cabinet-for-phase-out-plan-for-fossil-fuel-subsidies/You read that right, climate activists (illegally) blocking streets in the netherlands have caused politicians of the national government to consider change.
That means there are governments in this world that actually do pay attention to what (some of) the populus demands. At least one such government exists! In the EU even!
If you don't find this exciting, please take a minute to imagine what it would be like if YOUR government reacted positively to YOUR protest. I bet you can't really imagine it due to lack of precedence :<
No.8335 KONTRA
>>8334I like how you celebrate a minority forcing through political change. Unblemished democrats, truly. I wonder how you would have assessed this situation if it was far-right protesters.
On the other hand, I doubt the government really did this solely because of the protests, especially considering the propagandistic tone of your source.
No.8336 KONTRA
>>8335>a minority forcing through political changeThis is often the case and frankly unprecise in the sense that we don't actually know what the people want (unlike populists), beyond these people that actually do something is a 'silent minority'. People who now vote for the AFD won't secure their future. Change will come one way or another with business as usualy being destructive, and I rather sympathize with people that will prepare for a change than those that defend something in the face of inevitability. Change is frightening and can be dangerous. But better do something in advance instead of waiting for the crash. A selfish attitude will turn back on you, my opinion.
t. not the German who posted the ER news.
No.8337 KONTRA
>>8334>please take a minute to imagine what it would be like if YOUR government reacted positively to YOUR protestNot another tourist in site. German stragglers arrested and executed.
>Where the government first claimed that the annual amount was 4.5 billion euros, it eventually turned out that 39.7 to 46.4 billion euros of fossil subsidies are provided each year.[2] It remains to be seen whether this would have come into the open without the actions of Extinction Rebellion.This is neat, though. All for shutting down fuel subsidies.
No.8338 KONTRA
>>8336>People who now vote for the AFD won't secure their future. People who now vote for de-industrialisation and immigration of tens of millions of asylum-tourists won't secure their future. Headless climate-panic is a religion of iq-89 idiots who believe every propaganda they are fed. You destroy the future for all of us by causing de-industrialisation, poverty and the complete, utter and irreversible de-germanisation of Germany. West-Germany is allready full of mixed-race sheeple.
No.8343
>>8335>I like how you celebrate a minority forcing through political change.The "political change" is to put the government on the spot about giving absurd amounts of money to make fossil fuel a financially attractive option where it wouldn't be without the subsidies.
The protestors did not endanger your way of life, even if they are ideologically orthogonal to your perspective.
And the inverse of your implication would be that no protest is ever justified unless >50% of the population participate. Something that is pretty much unheard of.
You are arguing against protests in general at this point. Which is fine, tbh, whether or not protesting is viable in a modern democracy could be an interesting discussion if persued seriously.
No.8347 KONTRA
>>8343>You are arguing against protests in general at this point.No, I am not, at all.
You however are arguing for loud minorities bullying everyone else into submission.
If you want to step on that slippery slope, fine, but pe prepared to defend rightwing "protests" and domestic terrorism and coups.
Last, and to reiterate, I don't think that the autistic glueing did actually amount to anything. They just claim that now because of the timing.
It's like retards yelling about HURR DURR VIOLENT MUSLIMS and when something happens they go all smug "told you so".
Same case here, because I don't believe that the dutch government actually listens to the people any more than ours does.
No.8351
>>8338>vote for de-industrialisationIt's a vote for new industries or a transformation of industrialism. You don't really think the greens are against the magic of industrial production, are you? What do you think the introduction of information machines was? A Deindustrialization or rather a transformation of you industrial production is done?
Chinese are clever enough to leave Europe behind once Euros and its individual nations decide to keep moving on the path that provided success in the 20th century. A vote for the AFD is a vote for defeat, globally, nationally and individually. But people don't like waking up from their comfy 20th century sleep but will call it climate panic. The haven't heard the bells of the future, not even the horrific future of millions of climate refugees that won't give a fuck about you wimpy comforted ass desires and changed ecosystems beyond recognition. It does not have to be that horrific to make changes necessary.
No.8352 KONTRA
>>8351>ChinaImagine shilling for China in the year of our prophet (pbuh) 1445
No.8353
>>8351Let me educate you:
1.) Fossil fuel and nuclear energy can be stored indefinitely and are available on demand.
2.) They are to a high degree independent of human labor.
3.) These two advantages enable industry.
4.) So-called "renewable energy" (term implies violation of thermodynamics) do not carry these advantages, they are not available on demand, they cannot be stored
5.) It follows that industrial civilization might be able to support so-called "renewable energy" up to a degree, but not the other way round.
6.) This is illustrated by the fact that Shitmany, the dumbest fucking country in the world, has intense prices for electricity and its industry is collapsing, reducing this central European country to the third world hellhole it deserves to be, with dirty black-assed African nig-nigs and all.
All Hail Anal-Lena! Long live the Leprechauns!
No.8355 KONTRA
>>8353>they cannot be storedlmao
No.8356
>>8353> fossil fuel can be stored indefinitely> "renewable energy" cannot be storedwelp, the first big mistake you make is differentiating between energy. there is kinetic, potential energy etc. pp., yes... but terms like fossil fuel (referring to a material releasing energy when you burn it) and "renewable energy" (referring to the harness and conversion of energy which will outlast fossil-fuel for prolly billions of years... so if we put it into human time-line-perspective it is pretty much in every way renewable - or do you really think the sun will burn, winds stop blowing, the whole earth tidal locks with moon and sun... and finally gets swallowed by the ever expanding sun...
if we didn't blow that little clump up into a mere dust cloud by then... any time soon?) eh... well... these terms do not really refer to "energy" in the physical interpretation of that word... yet, you still try to use it that way.
> available on demandis pretty much the only valid point you make for fossil fuel.
another good point is that with our current technology, we can use this energy relatively well with not toooo much loss. But e.g. sunlight conversion got rly gud thx to german stupidity subsidizing it for a while... and china copying it.
now imagine we didn't had a lot of gov subsidies towards fossil fuels over all the years: maybe our technology would look rly different and you would prolly argue for whatever was subsidiesed instead.
about the storage problem: yeah... kinda true. water (potential energy conversion via height difference) is a good "natural" storage for energy, thou.
fossil fuel has currently a valid niche-case. you need a lot of energy but are limited by mass? burn dem dinos!!
e.g. useful to build a rocket No.8358 KONTRA
>>8356>Anal-Lena dreams renewable dreams, but can't tell cobalt from keep leprechaunsShould have remained a trampoline jumper, anal Lena
No.8360 KONTRA
>>8353The petrol age let us build a certain way of living and you are a little junkie, disgusting, dirty junkie. With the renewable age comes a new way of living and we will value certain things differently.
No.8361
>>8360> comes a new way of living(you will own nothing)
> and we will value certain things differently.(and you will be happy)
No.8373
>>8363>abolishing the free marketHe wants ultra-capitalism where the average citizen has a capital stock of 0 currency units and rents of everything "on demand". Increased control and "chilling effects" are a desirable by-product, so are monopolies on every-fucking-thing. It will be feudalism 2.0, where peasants are enthralled and have to pay a some feudal lord (=international conglomerate) for every fucking shit they take.
Governments are toothless, corrupt and don't give a shit, this is why we now basically have a vodofone-telekom duopoly on land-lines in Germany. My internet connection goes out ever two days for a few hours, while politicians keep paying lip-service to "expanding broadband" and "digitizing Germany". And that's only one of their god-damn lies. The assholes should be strung up on telephone poles by their left nut, maybe it would teach them a lesson.
I want my Kable-BW back, now. Give it to me or I'll blow up half of Brussels. No.8375 KONTRA
>>8373ultra capitalism comes from tame capitalism, it's like burgis being potentially always right wingers before they are leftists, the former is not an existential threat, that is why it's always an option in the face of defeat.
It sounds like the Spotify/netflix model coupled with cybernetic governmentality (control). The later is omnipresent for decades by now btw, Schwab hardly is an innovator in that case but a parrot.
I never read what Schwab as a "thought leader" thinkst. knower
No.8414 KONTRA
>>8375>t. knowerYou don't know shit.
No.8483
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaint/hamasdescriptionIt felt so good to read that. This also puts to shame every single german news source I've seen in the past week.
No.8485 KONTRA
>>8483It's funny how the Guardian and its readers are full of understanding for muslemanic goat-fuckers, yet the same goat-fuckers would instantly kill those degenerate leftist homosexual infidels if given the chance.
No.8486 KONTRA
>>8414That is still more than you know it seems.
No.8487
>>8484BBC should up them one, slaughter a pig right on their own doorstep, then have Qurans ready to clean the mess up. Imagine all the flag-burning and shoe-throwing and fatwas that would ensue!
No.8489 KONTRA
>>8486Then you worthless piece of dirt under my finger nail would be aware of the contradiction between free market, which you claimed Schwab does not want to abolish, and monopoly capitalism. But your posts make it clear that you are not aware of that at all. Just fuck off and be the most retard turd on the face of this sorry planet elsewhere, do you think you can do that? Do you think you can?
Alternatively, please do the world a favor stick your hands in a mixer already so I won't have to read any more of your garbage, "knower of things".
I had hoped I would not have to read your bullshit anymore after I left kraut, yet you followed me here, and after ten years, I have to read more of your crap. Instead of your own edgy interpretation of evolutionary psychology, you know enlighten the world with your lukewarm social science. Please do the world a favor and off yourself.
No.8490
>>8489> your own edgy interpretation of evolutionary psychologyPlease tell me more about it
No.8494 KONTRA
>>8489Take these.
Schwab won't abolish free market principles>>8490I'm also puzzled what he is talking about.
No.8495 KONTRA
>>8490He had these immensely long posts where he would regurgitate the usual PUA/manosphere-stuff. Each one of them was titled with "Knower of Things".
I remember one that started with
>the battle for existence starts early, already in kindergarten,then he outlined how successful kindergartners become rock stars and get to suck "energy" in the form of money and women from the loser men who look up to them and admire them...
For a time he, made equally long posts about parapsychological phenomena which he believed in and would post "proof" of, etc.
No.8497 KONTRA
>>8495I was wondering if you are an alcoholic. It just came to my mind that you might not be a schizo but just a severely intoxicated alcoholic who regularly drifts off into delusions after (several days of) drinking.
No.8507 KONTRA
>>8484>>8485>>8487>>8489Mods, don't you think a time out is in order? He's been getting more and more unstable this last week and I think EC isn't good for him.
No.8509
>>8507>Mods, don't you think a time out is in order?He does a great job at ensuring that no one takes him seriously.
Personally, i don't see much of a problem as long as it's just one random shizo poster.
No.9760
>>9714What a joke. It's like history channel runs the Mexican congress. Do they honestly believe in ancient aliens? Or is this just some show for idiot voters? Or maybe a political stalling maneuver? Because I would assume that Mexico has more pressing matters to discuss.
In any case, Mexicans seem to be even more ridiculous than their northern neighbors. They are fatter, too. It's like America dialed up to 11, but Spanish and poor.
No.9868
tl;dr of the whole situation:
prof uses a filler word like "like", "ehm...", "Alda", "Ma Nigga" and so on from the chinese language and gets suspended for it because it sounds similar to another filler word used by the nigga-american culture.
and, yes, linguistically speaking "nigga" is mainly a filler word in it's current form of use. not only the chinese version. see
>>9369 for an example video of local use of said filler.
ok, okeeeehee:
> Sep, 2020It is
old news, i get it.
but
I just heard about it
, so let me shit post!the first mp4 is the "problem"
according to
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-racism-intl-hnk-scli/index.html [use either a text-only based browser or a add-on/plug-in stripping the site... else it is un.use.able]
> The letter was not signed by any individuals, but instead by “Black MBA candidates c/o 2022.”> CNN obtained a copy of the letter, but could not find an official USC group by that name or reach the letter-writers for comment. and
> A week later, Marshall School Dean Geoffrey Garrett announced that a different professor would take over teaching Patton’s class for the rest of the semester, in an email to students that was shared with CNN. ...
> anon complains> gov institution jumps and fulfills any and all wishes anon had or might havejust as things should be.
...
second mp4 is another prof too afraid to use the chinese filler word. ma nigga should prolly just use teh neytiw filla wöhrt instähdt.
No.9875 KONTRA
>>9868Americans.
Even the witty professor talking about in front of an Asian student and some kind of mulatta is stupid. "I will now ask the slant eyes to say the word that almost sounds like nigger, precisely because she has slanted eyes.".
Maybe there is a good explanation and this was all devised by someone who simply wanted his tenure.
No.9876 KONTRA
>>9875> "I will now ask the slant eyes to say the word that almost sounds like nigger, precisely because she has slanted eyes."yeah, had to giggle at that as well.
i just can't into... how do dem thinkenings? ...or 'em just don't?
> maybe there is a good explanation and this was all devised by someone who simply wanted his tenure.wishful copium.
No.10115
The weak mixed-race team of various slavs, niggers and almancis just lost against the strong Turks in soccer. GERMany is over.
I hope Putin will soon deliver the blow of mercy and nuke this place, it is doomed, anyway!
No.10129 KONTRA
>>10115this is the first post I've read about soccer on this board. (including b)
I'm not surprised the proxy is the writing it, thinking every German is interested in it.
Not sure, if soccer game results should be considered "news"; maybe "sport-news", but that should be a different category.
No.10135 KONTRA
>>10129It's football, and no, at least /b/ has a dedicated sports thread.
No.10186 KONTRA
>>10171>Clown-country ruled by clownMore news at 11.
No.10202
>>10171The worst thing about this guy is his plan to privatize education.
No.10205
>>10171Oh wow, did not know such a big country might be or now will be the next playground for libertarian experiments.
No.10207
>>10202Sounds like a good idea.
Educational systems suffer from the tragic of the commons. No one pays for them out of his own pocket, and no one gives a fuck about it going to shit.
What do you think Murat's father has to say about Murat being nothing but a nuissance in class once he pays for that class? Parents will beat the fear of god into children and turn classroom-clowns and troublemakers into picture book pupils, once they are motivated to do so by their purses.
No.10209 KONTRA
>>10171I’d hold my optimism/pessimism.
He’s president, but because of his “radical stance” he’s up against the entire bureaucracy and the elite who is intertwined with that bureaucracy. They are the ones who carry out policy.
Realistically it all depends on how well he’s able to “purge” at least some of the civil service staff to then make policy changes properly. But I’m sure there are a lot of legislative counterweights set up just for a case like this.
No.10210 KONTRA
>>10209>how effectively he will be able to purgeWe are talking about a country where they don't mess with all the secret-police- and prison-crap, but just take a helicopter flight with dissidents and drop them over the Atlantic.
No.10211 KONTRA
>>10210Oh I’m sure the democratically elected, self-confessed libertarian economics professor will do (will be able to do rather) the same thing a hardline military junta did.
Get a grip on reality you cretin.
No.10212 KONTRA
>>10211Yeah, he will bill the fuel used up by the disposing of the deceased to their family.
No.10220 KONTRA
>>10207>Parents will beat the fear of god into children and turn classroom-clowns and troublemakers into picture book pupils, once they are motivated to do so by their purses.lol, lmao even.
If anything parents will blame the teacher even more now "since I am paying for this, why does my kid not get good grades", so the dumb and poor will stay dumb and poor while the dumb and rich will get some phony grades not actually based on anything but the purchasing power of their parents, thus lowering the standards even more.
No.10224 KONTRA
>>10220>I am paying for thisThen just tell the parents to take their kid out of school and sent get him into an apprenticeship asap, this will solve the problem.
No.10243 KONTRA
>>10224But who will take a Hauptschule dropout for an apprenticeship?
No.10264 KONTRA
>>10243One more reason to get your kid to study.
No.10287
>>10283I wonder how many people outside the UK and Argentinia even know about the falkland war and why this annexation carries as much weight as it does for some brits.
No.10315
>>10314I clicked and nothing happened.
Fooled again!
No.10326
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/finlands-ol3-nuclear-reactor-suffers-unexpected-outage-2023-11-19/Finnish leftist-green government spent too much effort on forced diversity and too few on maintaining infrastructure. And as a result entire Finland will turn into radioactive ruins. President made a very wise decision not to nuke this country after they entered anti-Russian military alliance -- he knew that Finland will collapse anyway. IT'S OVER for them.
>>10314America created these refugees with endless wars in Middle East. Now Finland as American lapdog will have to face consequences of their actions.
No.10328
>>10314That's racist. Doesn't Finland know that refugees are more valuable than gold? Be grateful, you god-damn nazis! RACISM!
No.10332 KONTRA
>>10326>IT'S OVER for them.Always has been for this gommie hell-hole.
Every single news piece regarding Finland should mention that OL3 was completed 14 years
behind schedule. It is such a critical piece of context when trying to understand anything that goes on in this God forsaken land.
>America created these refugees with endless wars in Middle East. Now Finland as American lapdog will have to face consequences of their actions.Does the son bear responsibility for the sins of the father?
>>10315Ebin rölled :DDD
No.10348
>>10332Finnish people bear more responsibility than Americans because they actually elected Anal-Sanna Bareback while Biden's regime came to power with election fraud.
No.10426
An Austrian right winger went to Afghanistan in order to prove that it is a safe country where you can send back refugees. He has been abducted and imprisoned by the Taliban for espionage and might be "sentenced" to death. How very ironic.
Now right-wing people call the Austrian state for help instead of saying it is his fault, which I would assume would have been the correct way to deal with this issue when you hold certain beliefs about autonomy, individuality, and rationality.
https://www.stern.de/panorama/afghanistan--rechtsextremer-oesterreicher-nach--urlaub--in-taliban-gefaengnis-34217884.html No.10427 KONTRA
>>10426There is a difference between a foreigner coming to a country for a "travel report" and someone already living in the country, especially if he'd already been there in 2022 where nothing happened, so this is not the gotcha you think it is.
The irony is still nice. It's just a shame they didn't imprison him for his rightwing beliefs, wouldn't that have been more appropriate?
What I find especially nice is people like you smugly enjoying this like this rightwinger would probably smugly enjoy some refugees welcome activist getting raped or something.
No.10428 KONTRA
>>10427It's not about how often he has been there. The Taliban simply can do things like that, just like they can do (and actually do) with their own people. They might not abduct or kill Afghanis for espionage but something else. That might be the difference.
>smugly enjoying thisI said it is ironic. Just like you said the irony it is still nice. It's an interesting story in that way.
What could be said is smugly in my post is that people who are quick to look for responsibility in happenings in individuals now want the lazy tax theft state apparatus to help this guy.
No.10429 KONTRA
>>10428>people who are quick to look for responsibility in happenings in individuals now want the lazy tax theft state apparatus to help this guy.Yeah that's a funny trait all those *wingers have. Those who cry for communism would go straight to gulag under actual communism and those who cry for a socialism of a national kind would go straight to Dachau.
No.10634
>>10627Russia is progressive, the west has fallen!
So is she just a "progressive" dummy candidate or what are the stories there? No.10644
>>10634>a "progressive" dummy candidateThat's who Ksenia Sobchak was in 2018 "elections". Or rather: progressive dummy "candidate".
I've read a book by sociologist who worked in regional election campaigns in 00-s. And he said that on honest elections female candidates don't have a chance because of... female voters. Men don't mind gender of candidates but women won't allow other women in positions of power. This is supported by my anecdotal evidence. Both my grandmas said in 2018 about Ksenia Sobchak: "баба-то куда полезла" while dad said "lol why not". One of grandmas went though half of the town (public transport wasn't working because of snowstorm) to cast her vote for Pynya "so that Sobchak won't come to power".
That's all related to 60+ generation. Women of my age don't have such prejudices. Which is interesting given the soviet feminism.
No.10649 KONTRA
>>10644>Men don't mind gender of candidates but women won't allow other women in positions of power. This is supported by my anecdotal evidence.Interesting. My anecdotal evidence tells me the opposite. I've heard women tell me they'd never vote for a man.
No.10657
In my personal anecdotal evidence I vote for men because I'm a sexist.
No.10736
>>10735Hey now cool it with the antisemitism
No.10737 KONTRA
>>10735You are an anti-semite. Reported!
No.10738
>>10735The reptiloids are dying, just when I thought they had gained immortality! Kissinger dead, Carter will soon be dead! At that rate, the senile great-grandpa the Americans have for a president will die before he gets voted out of office!
No.10740 KONTRA
>>10738America is on a whole a gerontocratic.
No.10741
>>10740Not for long. Once all the boomers & silent generation are dead, power will go straight to zoomers. Warren Buffett and Charles Mungers can not live for much longer, either!
No.10742
>>10735Rest in peace. The only good thing that ever came out of that awful country.
No.10744 KONTRA
>>10741Munger already died two days ago.
No.10745
>>10744Things keep getting better!
No.10749
>>10748Damn, I see what you mean.
> "Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this grand unveiling. Today marks an extraordinary day in our history - a new era has dawned upon us. The world is on the brink of change, as we stand at the edge of human evolution. I am here today to introduce you to something that will forever alter the course of humanity.>> Ladies and gentlemen, let me present to you: Project Umbrella! A groundbreaking initiative designed to harness the power of nature itself - to create a world where we are no longer at the mercy of our own weaknesses. Through this project, we have discovered how to manipulate viruses on a genetic level, creating powerful beings that will serve as humanity's last line of defense against the dangers lurking in the shadows.>> Our research has led us to uncover the potential for a virus so potent, it can rewrite our very DNA - turning us into superhumans capable of overcoming any obstacle. We have named this powerful force: The T-Virus. It is through this discovery that we will finally be able to control the chaos and anarchy plaguing our world.>> Ladies and gentlemen, I am honored to announce that Project Umbrella has successfully created its first superhuman - a being so powerful, it can bend reality itself. We have named him: The Red Queen. This extraordinary individual will be instrumental in ensuring the safety of our planet, protecting us from any threats that may arise.>> As we embark on this new journey towards evolution and enlightenment, let us remember that our ultimate goal is to create a world where peace and harmony reign supreme. The Red Queen stands as a symbol of hope for all humanity - a beacon guiding us through the darkness and into the light. Together, we will shape the destiny of mankind and secure its place among the stars."(This speech was generated by gpt4all locally on my poor GPU in 8.3 seconds)
No.10750
>>10748I had to think of the prison director in Story of Ricky when I saw this picture.
Is his death emblamtic for the end of the American century?
No.10751
>>10750>The end of the American centuryYes! Murrica is done, and those fatmasters who haven't found out will soon learn! We now live in a multipolar world, murriturds can no longer make unilateral demands and pretend they own the planet!
No.10753 KONTRA
>>10735RIP
Real pragmatist nigga
This is a great loss to the American establishment, and the world at large.
He will be cursed eternally by partisans, but those that look for the facts will know that he just practiced Realpolitik.
No.10757
>>10753Real always recognize real. Idealists stay mad.
No.10763 KONTRA
>>10757He's literally a murderous devil, the cliché of the shapeshifting lizard come to life.
If you worship him, you have more in common with germans than you might wish, because Germans worshipped Kissinger more than any other American politician. As long as this man was physically able to board a plane without help, he was commonly invited to give his opinion on German public TV.
No.10766
Kissinger as in ass kissing.
No.10774 KONTRA
>>10766No, as in Bad Kissingen.
No.10777 KONTRA
>>10774What, really? I actually really thought it was as
>>10766 said, thank you so much for clarifying that, Generalmajor Fetenfurzer Autist von Oberoffensichtlichenheim. (this comes from the popular "Captain Obvious" meme, in case that wasn't clear).
No.10778 KONTRA
>>10777Yeah, yeah. Keep saying stupid shit, then pretend you were only joking. I bet people fall for it all the time.
No.10780 KONTRA
>>10778Nobody likes a smartass
No.10785 KONTRA
>>10780And I hate you. Even if it was a joke, which it was not, it would have been a lame joke. "hurrdurr I said ass this was funny lol poo-poo pee-pee" like some three year old bydlo child that was never beaten hard enough.
No.10792 KONTRA
>>10785That wasn't me, and it was clearly a joke and everybody understood that - except for you, who only saw it as an opportunity to be a smartass and show off how smart and educated he is and that he read the Wikipedia article.
I don't hate you btw, you're too much of a pitiful existence to warrant actual hate.
No.10829 KONTRA
>>10785I wrote the ass kissing note, a well deserved play with words for the thread content of the last 24h.
No.11626
Top kek:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/19/politics/trump-colorado-supreme-court-14th-amendment/index.htmlWill be kinda interesting to see which candiate the GOP will settle for against Sleepy Joe, in case this actually sticks. And how Trumpists react to that candidate.
No.11629
>>11626They continue to abuse the justice system. Just ban the opposing candidate from running under some obscure law! How democratic thee United States is! They stole one election from Trump, they got caught red-handed. Now, they try to ban him from running!
Americans will not stand for it! If this 'sticks', as you say, there will be a revolution and democracy will be brought back to the greatest country in earth, the United States of America.
No.11647 KONTRA
>>116291/10, made me reply
No.11654
>>11647If the Colorado supreme Court had any trust in democracy, they'd let Trump run. If he gets elected, it's the will of the people, right? Any insurrection he might instigate would be pointless, because he would be the elected president anyway, who would their be to usurp but president trump himself? If he isn't elected, their will be no problem, because he wouldn't be president, same as if he didn't run.
So either the Colorado supreme Court does not trust the voters to make the right decision, because they don't have any respect for democracy.
Or they ban Trump from becoming president when he wouldn't be elected, anyway, which would be unnecessary.
Either way, the Colorado supreme Court is obviously a kangaroo Court
So which one is it?
No.11655
🦘🥸👩🏿⚖️
No.11660
>>11654That's not part of the job of the Colorado Supreme Court. Their job is to judge whether Trump participated in insurrection in the past or not in order to either apply or not apply the 14th amendment:
>No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.Colorado Supreme Court said he did:
>The court issued several key findings in its sweeping decision:>• Colorado state law allows voters to challenge Trump’s eligibility under the federal constitution’s “insurrectionist ban.”>• Colorado courts can enforce the ban without any action from Congress.>• The insurrectionist ban applies to the presidency.>• The January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol was an insurrection.>• Trump “engaged in” the insurrection.>• Trump’s speech “inciting the crowd” on January 6 was “not protected by the First Amendment.” So now it's for the US Supreme Court to decide whether the findings of the Colorado Supreme Court were lawful. Unlike the Colorado Supreme Court the US Supreme Court is dominated by Republican affiliates:
>As of June 30, 2022, of the 9 justices of the Supreme Court, 6 were appointed by a Republican president, and 3 were appointed by a Democratic president.Key here is: if funny orange man had not acted in what *might* have been insurrection around the January 6th 2021 incident
the whole thing being one of the most entertaining happenings of the last couple years btw, there would not be a meaningful way for his political opponents to file those things against him in front of a court in the first place.
No.11662
>>11660But faking votes and stealing the election was not unconstitutional 🦘🦘🦘
No.11665 KONTRA
>>11662Do you wanna deny Americans the FREEDOM to steal votes? Why do you hate FREEDOM? Go to China then!!!1!1!!!!
No.11683
Xi demands that Biden public states support for reunification of Taiwan with China. Why do Americans have to support some chink-Island half a world away while inflation is rampant? Biden started a new forever-war in Ukraine, and the German leftist-green government is with him! Just to steal Ukraine from Russia, lol, because le pudding ebul.
Wonder what Biden is gonna do. He can do NOTHING. China will soon just take Taiwan with their superior hypersonic weapons, they can insta-destroy murrican carrier groups!
No.11684
>>11683I read today that Chinese youth (<25) has 1/5 of unemployment. Will they go to war with Taiwain? Or has the Chinese economic wonder make them weak?
No.11685
>>11684China probably will want to keep a seizable labor-reserve so employees don't start to demand better conditions.
No.11687 KONTRA
>>11685They try to send/incentivize people going to the countryside again and manage their old parents. China has an old age problem. I'm waiting for the day Chinese society finds out the Africans they "help" would make a good and cheap service workforce. Or they will use robots instead because these are cheaper and old people aren't to be cared about too much.
No.11691
>>11687>China has an old age problemOh, just wait 15 years, then their boomers will be retiring.
No.12038 KONTRA
>>12037She forgot that wokeness does have certain limits and ends when a certain minority is concerned.
No.12067 KONTRA
>>12052Maybe she shouldn't have plagiarized, then?
No.12072 KONTRA
>>12067in the humanities?
unpractical. No.12088
>>12067Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet, commenting? Wasn't there someone here on EC asking for a single instance of fatposting on this board? Literally every one of your posts would qualify.
Why can't you stop being such a shit eating cunt for literally five minutes?
No.12092 KONTRA
>>12088Why are you defending academic plagiarism? And why do you have so much sand in your vagina?
No.12093 KONTRA
>>12092Cringest post ever, Holgi.
No.12094 KONTRA
>>12093>Holgi.No idea what you're babbling about, but I think you're on the wrong board here. I'm Ernst.
No.12095
There is political turmoil in Germany.
New protests are scheduled for next week:
- The farmers will start a week of protests. They demand their exemption from taxes on fuel be continued. They will block intersections and unload massive piles of dung in cities, as they did in December.
- The train-drivers will go on strike for increased pay and decreased working hours, so very few trains will run.
- Lorry-operators demand cheaper fuel and better maintenance of bridges and roads and will join in, blocking public roads by deliberate slow driving.
- Groups who oppose asylum-insanity, vaccine-mandates, electric vehicles, forced home renovations for 'energy efficiency', etc. will join the protests in support
Today, economic minister Robert Habeck tried to get of the ferry from the island Hooge to the German mainland, but farmers threatened to storm the ferry, so they had to return to the island instead.
No.12096
>>12095>- Groups who oppose asylum-insanity, vaccine-mandates, electric vehicles, forced home renovations for 'energy efficiency', etc. will join the protests in supportNice job undermining the legitimacy of the protests with schizo shit.
No.12097 KONTRA
>>12088>>12092>>12093>>12094Please remember that this is the news thread, not the "let me show you how retarded i am" thread.
No.12102 KONTRA
>>12096>legitimacy>with schizo shitWhen the minister of agriculture tries to negoitiate a compromise and farmers decide to reply with racist insults, they do not need schizos to lose legitimacy. They are the schizos.
No.12103 KONTRA
>>12102>When the minister of agriculture tries to negoitiate a compromiseStop victim blaming, this "compromise" wouldn't have been necessary in the first place if this weren't the worst government since the war. Defending them only shows how you are even more mentally ill than those "schizos".
Everything they have coming for them is of their own doing. Fuck them and fuck everyone STILL supporting them. It's the same kind of people who were still talking about in victory even in '45.
No.12105
>>12102This has happened to every protest movement in Germany in the past 20 years and probably happens to every protest. The shizos will think every protest is about them, go there, turn it into a clown parade and the legitimate protesters will leave out of disgust.
No.12107
>>12067No one would care about `plagiarism` unless she stood out against Zionist occupation.
No.12108 KONTRA
>>12104>I have no arguments, so I will instead defame my opponentGreat job, and you wonder why people hate your kind.
No.12109 KONTRA
>>12108>I have no arguments, so I will instead defame my opponentAlso:
>you are even more mentally ill than those "schizos".>goes on in a tirade that culminates in 1945 No.12110
>>12105> This has happened to every protest movement in Germany in the past 20 years and probably happens to every protest.Good post. Historically, protest movements seem to be prone to be taken over by radical elements, or tend towards radicalization, alienating the moderates. Example for radicalization from history class: the parabola of the French revolution. Also see German students movement of the 60s ending with RAF, while the moderates integrated into mainstream/started their long march through the institutions. (Depending on whom you ask.)
But those radicals were radical ideologoues. I think there is a new, different breed: Those who mainly believe in bullshit for bullshit's sake. They are anti-government because the government just doesn't accept their anti-vaxxer anti-mobile-radiation bullshit.
No.12117
Don't farmers love free markets? They should get their money from the people they sell their harvest to instead of letting the normal people suffer.
No.12121 KONTRA
>>12109>tiradeAs I said, no arguments, much defaming.
>>12117Enjoy your cheap free market slop from China or South America or India. It's definitely healthier and more bio than what you can get from those ebul german nazi farmers.
I find it interesting how german Ernsts here seem to generally sympathize with the climate glue movement, but when farmers protest, it's suddenly totally evil and bad.
No.12122 KONTRA
>>12121>but when farmers protest, it's suddenly totally evil and bad.Farmers are enterpreneurs, basically. Also who are the farmers protsting, are there a lot of organic food farmers going on the streets or who is it?
How many of these farmers grow crops that are used as animal food? Why should enviro-greens-vegans have sympathy with those?
No.12123 KONTRA
>>12122Don't you find it weird that as soon as politicians are personally involved it's suddenly a big deal?
Nobody cares about street blockades as long as it's just the voting cattle being blockaded, but ask Habeck to do his fucking job, and they lose their mind.
Turns out things can happen if you actually target the right people, and as it turns out, politicians are now starting to realize they are not above everything or untouchable or anything, and that is a very important thing, no matter how imprudent this stunt was.
Maybe germans should take more notes from the French.
No.12126 KONTRA
>>12123From what I gathered it was not just a blockade unlike what the climate glue people do. The climate glue people are hardly french style and yet right wingers act like it is the next red army fraction.
And unsurprisingly you become vocal about the farmers as right wingers try to give the whole protest a right wing spin
no wonder, where are talking about fossil fuels here and you are just the last outpost to bring exactly this to EC.
No.12130 KONTRA
>>12126>From what I gathered it was not just a blockade unlike what the climate glue people do. The public prosecutor seems to be under that impression that they did more than just a sit-in on the pier. An investigation for breech of the peace has been launched.
Afaik, they tried to storm the boat. We will never know what would have happened.
>>12122If anything, organic farmers are hit harder by paying taxes on fuel. Tilling and grubbing uses more fuel than spraying round-up.
> How many of these farmers grow crops that are used as animal food?More than half of everything that is grown in Germany is used for animal feed. For wheat, it's 70%. Corn? Probably close to 0% for human consumption, all for bio fuel and animal feed.
No.12137
>>12130>Afaik, they tried to storm the boat. We will never know what would have happened. I saw a video where a policeman/police negotiator is in front of the crowd and tells them there are two options: (1) they get cleared from the pier (2) two people can be selected and talk to Habeck.
They have the chance to talk to Habeck spontaneously
a screaming crowd is not able to converse with one person, which they don't seem to understand thanks to their skewed concepts of democracy that has no anchor in reality but refuse to do so. Laughable. Not even "so close to the populus" Putin would let through some people without careful selection.
Like the schizo they don't value democratic values but pretend to do so. They don't want to talk but fantasize about the day of the rope.
>More than half of everything that is grown in Germany is used for animal feed. For wheat, it's 70%. Corn? Probably close to 0% for human consumption, all for bio fuel and animal feed.But these people provide our food, eggs and all, we must obey what they want and don't look closer into it.
>If anything, organic farmers are hit harder by paying taxes on fuel.Would be interesting to know who really goes to these protests then. I wonder if organic farmers have a better market, not as competitive as some other markets for farmers. Probably not but I don't know anything about that matter.
No.12138
Daily reminder: American colonial empire is collapsing
No.12143 KONTRA
>>12137> their skewed concepts of democracyI'll go out on a limb here and say that with some people, this is not necessarily a matter of skewed concepts, more a matter of completely rejecting the concept. Yes, when called out on it, they'll answer with some variation of "tu quoque for calling me out, freedom of speech yadda-yadda-yadda". But that's to gain points, not more, and said with a wink to their own rows. "Look how smart I am, I used their own moves on them xd"
> Not even "so close to the populus" Putin would let through some people without careful selection.In my eyes, the question whether Putin would let anyone through is not a sensible question to ask, because I consider it unlikely that he would ever be in a similar situation. Putin would not use a public ferry. Russian police would very likely find means to disperse the protesters before the arrival of Putin's boat.
And imagine putin fans if German police used those means on them. The photos of Putin talking to wounded veterans, talking to lorry-drivers, talking to fishermen are of course photo-ops.
And yes, we could turn this into a critique of Habeck for making life difficult for the police and his bodyguards by not using a helicopter...
> Like the schizo they don't value democratic values but pretend to do so. They don't want to talk but fantasize about the day of the rope. Exactly.
> But these people provide our food, eggs and all, we must obey what they want and don't look closer into it.Yes, that's the argument.
No.12180
https://www.hessenschau.de/wirtschaft/vgh-verbietet-mini-supermaerkten-von-tegut-oeffnung-an-sonn--und-feiertagen--v4,vgh-entscheidung-gegen-tegut-100.htmlCourt in Germany ruled that digital mini-supermarkets should be closed on Sundays because costumers checkout their groceries and thus violate the law about working on Sundays.
No.12186 KONTRA
>>12180>because costumers checkout their groceries and thus violate the law about working on Sundays.The Ladenöffnungsgesetz (constraint to Hesse in that case anyway) is not a law about working on Sundays per se, is it? It sounds misleading because this is not about working on Sundays but the store being open to customers on a Sunday which the law forbids (because back then it implied people having to work for that to be he case). But yes, it was made to protect the salaried people of these stores.
No.12188
>>12186Wait. There are shops that aren't staffed? In a dirty city full of niggers, leftshits and addicts? How come these shops are not simply emptied by drug addicts or asylum seekers? They could just walk in there with duffle bags and carry out everything? Or just wreck the place?
I bet this happens, there is just too much scum for it not to happen. Does the government pay for that? It has to be some project to "establish and expand shopping possibilities in disadvantaged areas" or some leftshit bullshit like that. No other possibility, because no capitalist would just give away stuff for free. So in essence, they found another possibility to make me pay for leftshits, drug addicts and niggers. I fucking hate this 'government'.
No.12189
>>12180Most German thing ever. I hate this fucking country so much.
No.12190
>>12189This. Glad the BRiD GmbH is taken out of commission. The 'government' will not survive this week!
No.12193 KONTRA
>>12191He did not even read the article, which I think is telling but hardly surprising at this point.
No.12195
>>12193Didn't read the full article as well; just overflew it.
> digital verification of identity before entering.> camera surveilance> only digital payment optionsoutside of the goods for sell, there is nothing to rob/steal. seems like a high risk, low value target. maybe, if you wanna dip into organized crime, it could be a barely valuable target with hacking their system (or simply cutting electricity off and being fast) and rob multiple of their stores, before they redo something that could hinder your modi operanti.
But, afaik, the typical robber/thief gangs around here target trucks and not stores. Easier target, prolly less surveilance and the goods are already packed nicely for transport.
Around where I live there also is/was a group or individual active targeting bank-bling-bling-automates without staff and blasting them open. idk if already caught, still active or chilling on loot. But I know that opening times of those bling-bling-booths have changed. When I wanted to restock on some cash in the middle of the night to continue drinking, THE FUGGING BOOTH WAS CLOSED.
Un.For.Give.Able.
I usually side with the criminals, especially if they target banks, but affecting my personal habbenings, especially if it is about consuming drugs? That's gone too far. I will not rest until every soul responsible for this decision has been banished from this realm, every heart, who desired to reduce opening booth times, stopped beating and the blood of those triggering this misfortune has dried.
Just finished binging "blue eye samurai". was gud. thank you, Ernst, for suggesting it to me.Uhh... to get back to those automated mini-markets, aren't those pretty common in multiple asian countries? south korea has lots of those, amright? They seem interesting and convenient... but, personally, I prefer to buy at stores that have actual human staff.
No.12196 KONTRA
>>12189Feel free to leave to a better one.
No.12199 KONTRA
>>12197> Typical liberal brainrotI would argue that "siding with the criminals" in most cases doesn't specify the side at all.
...and I really don't understand your *.png. Is it about neglect? (nobody empties bin, repairs window... no idea what those metal cages are supposed to do/signal.)
No.12200 KONTRA
lmao Habeck is now calling the protests a "danger for democracy". If this were an imageboard I would say he's trolling because nobody can be THAT retarded, but it's the government, so...
No.12202 KONTRA
>>12200Certain people within that protest are.
I'm curious. The farmers want governmental gibsmedat because else they will go bankrupt. Shouldn't farmers be able to live from selling their product on the free market? This horrendous outcome for farmers - not being able to survive without mother state giving them subsidies - has not been solved yet it could have been by the CDU long ago, they never did anything about it and now people say it is the Ampels fault. The Ampel it seems is more conservative and close to market nature with their approach to let farmers perish by saying no to further gibsmedat.
This protest is used by the right to fight a cultural war, it is a protest if identity for people like you, for the farmers it is either both or an existential struggle. I only support the latter as valid protest, not the idenity politics mixed into it activists.
No.12203 KONTRA
>>12202Tax privileges are only bad when someone else gets them. When you get them, they are good and necessary.
No.12205
>>12202>existential matterFor some, it is. Baden-Württemberg farmers usually average a net-profit of about below 40k€ per farm-working family-member. That is not terrible, but it's an average, and some make much less.
I don't know the numbers for other states (don't know where to look.) But if you needed me to make a guess, I'd say: multiply BW-figures by 1.75 or even 2, and you get Niedersachsen.
Needless to say, my compassion for anyone making six-figures and crying about his taxes is limited.
No.12207 KONTRA
>>12202They can't be any less undemocratic than the current government. Remember, it was the Ampel who finally managed to push the Wahlrechtsreform. It is the Ampel who is doing just whatever they want, damn those people and their needs, this is not a democracy.
And that is completely independent of what the Merkel junta has done. In fact, any sensible government would have said "Yeah ok, the past years have been hard, the Merkel has done a lot of shit, let's go a bit easier, especially with how we now support this war and so on", but instead they double down because ideology is more important than people.
The Green Leap Forward is way more important than you or me.
That said, you can fuck right off with your HURR DURR FREE MARKET I SO SMART gotcha bullshit, because it is not a gotcha, not at all.
If you understood anything at all about how farming works - worldwide - you wouldn't talk like this.
No.12208
>>12205>For some, it is.Yes. For some it isn't. Farmers are entrepreneurs and some live very well from it.
>>12207>IAMSOMSARTBUTIWONTTELLUWHY No.12210 KONTRA
>>12208>Yes. For some it isn't.What a profound insight, Ernst. You just HAVE to be right, don't you? Will you die when you admit you weren't 100% in the right?
Now what will you do, make everyone suffer because some people are profiting or have some people profiting without anyone suffering?
Apparently you choose the former, because you have no employable skills and would rather drag everyone down to your level? Or some other reason?
But sure, go ahead, kill the remaining agricultural sector in Germany. Import everything and be even more at the mercy of other powers that aren't as progressive and enlightened as you. Oh my god, you're so smart and 100% right!
No.12224 KONTRA
>>12223I'm not sure if you want to be "revealing" here
makes you look dumb again or the ebul democracratic leaders but it has been known for long that a democracy is a form of political organization that technically always can destroy itself through voting off democracy hence elections are technically dangerous for a democracy as form of political organization. That people think this is the case these days is not too far off. People like Putin don't have that problem.
No.12225
>>12224> People like Putin don't have that problem.Why? Putin is working hard on protecting democracy from extremist protesters and keeping dangerous populists out of elections.
No.12226 KONTRA
>>12225what a postmodern reply, I'm in shambles.
No.12227 KONTRA
>>12226Maybe democracy is a lie if it is so contradictory? Pathetic little leftshit, I laugh about you every day.
No.12229 KONTRA
>>12228> N-no you!You know that you are gay, right?
No.12230
>>12225At last I understand how societies can permanently inoculate themselves against populism.
No.12231 KONTRA
>>12229Is this when insults turn into second hand embarrassment?
No.12233 KONTRA
>>12232That Twitter thread is historical not just because it exposed Navalny as problematic, but because it directly led to Amnesty International to implode the remains of credibility and dignity they still carried. Something should be said about how an organization that was founded on a lie was always meant to go.
No.12234 KONTRA
>>12231You have got to be honest to yourself about your condition.
No.12237 KONTRA
>>12211Let me put it differently: You just HAD to contradict only to have the last word (like you did in your last post, too). And it's painfully obvious that you don't do it because you're interested in any actual discussion, but to appear as the smarter one (like you did in your last post, too).
Everything you say is either a) some shitty whataboutism or b) NO U.
So why should I try to explain anything to you? You wouldn't understand it anyway and if you did you would just deflect and call me a schizo to appear as the smarter one again. There is just no use discussing with you. You're lost. Or maybe therapy will have an effect so you start thinking like an actual human again.
I will not go and appropriately insult you back (like you would deserve), because that would probably net me a ban.
No.12241 KONTRA
>>12237>that would probably net me a ban.As so often and it just shows you are desperate and have no means to regulate your feelings well. The conclusion is obvious.
>You just HAD to contradictContradict what? I don't contradicted anything. I was merely agreeing with a differentiation: Namely that for some farmers it comes down to an actual existential struggle but for some its simply don't. But you apparently you think that I think every post has to be of impecable significance. My advice again: stop mind reading, it is of no service to you.
No.12245
>>12241Ach Ernst, why do you feel so entitled to defend Habeck?
No.12246
>>12245Probably, because like Habeck, he is bad at everything and thus identifies with this loser who is a minister, but doesn't even have a pair of clean socks without any holes in them!
Our politicians are the biggest losers and failures at life. To dumb to learn something useful, they studied some semester at university, but then, flunked out, because they weren't even good at THAT.
Who elects such people? City-dwellers who never worked a day in their lives, also studied at university and are good for nothing but talking bullshit. None of them has any idea about anything, which is why they are so immensely stupid about immigration, energy policy, etc. They have no idea. They go diesel engine bad, muh climate change all day like the stupid sheeple they are, but they have no idea that streaming movies and the useless video-calls produce way more co2 than driving a diesel car 100km! Facebook alone is responsible for 1.000.000 tons of co2 emissions alone, but they don't know that, because they get all their information from their mainstream-media. They have no idea that actual people need to work and produce the stuff they use, they are way too stupid for that. They though they could do without Russian gas, no German industry is collapsing, people are freezing, and they can't cover it up with government money anymore, because the government money run out! Now, they think they can eat while stabbing farmers in the back, because they think their vegan packed industrially produced shit-tasting pseudo-food grows in supermarkets!
No.12249 KONTRA
>>12246>they have no idea that streaming movies and the useless video-calls produce way more co2 than driving a diesel car 100km!I was victim to these truths several times in literature from cultural media studies. Thank dog I studied several semesters and did NOT flunk out but got my degree preparing me to exhaust the energy level of potential Haldol consumers, Portugese people and frustrated Russians mathematicians and Russo-Germs.
t. M.A. haver from PsyOP university Quasselstadt
>Facebook alone is responsible for 1.000.000 tons of co2 emissions Shut down that boomer infowars swamp together with instagram and linkedin and replace it with a sensor network and enough computing power to monitor the planets health levels and use the insights from science to impose automated queer luxury communitism. You will own nothing and big black migrant daddies will care for you regardless!
>but doesn't even have a pair of clean socks without any holes in themI think this is the best criterion so far. I don't trust that sloppily dressed programmer with my data either, same thing. A lot of responsibility but dressing like a hobo. Unacceptable.
No.12252 KONTRA
>>12249Facebook is for millenials, they are on their phones all the time, but they want to ban cars! I'm in favor of banning the greenvoters! At least take THEIR cars! They want to save the planet, good! Have all the green-voters have it dark and cold without a car! Since they hate farmers, they can do without food, too! Let them starve, it is obviously what they want!
No.12263
Viper, The Rapper kidnapped a pregnant woman and kept her in his garage for years.
>She said when she begged him to let her leave, Carter would force her to take pills along with crack cocaine and other illegal drugshttps://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2024/01/05/man-accused-of-kidnapping-woman-holding-her-against-will-for-4-5-years-at-se-houston-home/ No.12264 KONTRA
>>12258Nah, that was laudable Amnesty International. I'm upset over the made up origin story and the Navalny two-step.
No.12273
>>12249You should have gone to seminary instead of media studies. You would as well learn no useful profession and spend several years being indoctrinated but at least it would be a normal religion and not a destructive cult.
No.12297
>>12273> You would as well learn no useful professionSomebody has to do the ungrateful job of developing ideologies after learning everything about the trade of how it has been done before.