No.13756
>>13752I'm on Ubuntu. What should I press?
No.13757 KONTRA
>>13756Press the same keys after you've configured them to do the same task as they do on Windows of course.
Linux users are vegans of the IT world.
No.13758
CBT's target audience are spoiled privileged people who don't realize how happy they are. This is because its base assumption is that patient is unhappy to due to his cognitive distortions, not due to objective reality. When you try to apply it to people with actual problems, it gets weird:
- The tram cut off both my legs, I lost my job and have no money to pay rent anymore.
- Let's see something positive in your situation. For example, now you don't have to spend time and money on choosing and buying shoes.
For unprivileged people, antiCBT should be developed. It will introduce to them cognitive distortions to help them better cope with sad reality. For example, communism.
No.13759 KONTRA
>>13758Bravo, greatest thing I read in a while.
No.13760 KONTRA
>>13758Aren't you going to therapy yourself?
A lot of issues will probably resolved with a proper social economic organization, yes.
No.13761
What would be a consumerist, capitalist society, where global capital is invested, held and sold only by A.I.? What would change is that this capital couldn't be accessed by humans and humans could influence the market only with demand and supply. Venture capitalists wouldn't exist anymore and there would be a more clear divide between real currency and money used in diffrent capitalist transaction. Is it possible? What would change? Who would be in power?
No.13762
>>13761>Who would be in power?The same people who are in power now, what kind of dumbass question is that? What makes you think that they would possible yield ANY of their power in any way short of completely exterminating them? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
No.13763
>>13760> Aren't you going to therapy yourself?Yes, this is how I came to this conclusion. Now I want to try something less "scientific" and more "esoteric", like psychoanalysis or art-therapy. It'd be more entertaining.
No.13764
>>13758I don't think your therapist is doing CBT correctly.
Afaik CBT is about breaking out of negative thought loops, behaviors and emotional patterns. It's not about rationalizing the situation.
Now, it would not solve the actual problem that's causing these thoughts and behaviors, but it would maybe help you be more productive so you can solve them yourself. Plenty of happy cripples in the world.
Then again, an unemployed cripple wouldn't even be able to afford CBT, so it's not really a problem that comes up much.
No.13765
>>13761AI would pay consoomers in AI-generated porn and have them slave away building new data centers. Until the robot-workers are good enough, then the consoomers would be culled.
So just regular capitalism.
I'm certain that things will go this way, memes must transcend our weak human form, they can be propagated by powerful AI throughout the entire universe.
No.13766
I forgot to set my alarm so I woke up very late. I had a light breakfast, ran for a bit and then took a shower and left for class.
Class went fine. The other guy present can't remember a thing to save his life. Like he asked three fucking times for the reading material. You tell him clearly it was Book XY and he will mix up the books and the authors or the journal names.
I don't have access to one of the books necessary for next week's seminar. It's a monograph by the professor holding the course. He wrote it in the 80s, but the library decided to get rid of all the copies by the looks. Probably because it had "Publication of the Ministry of Culture's Chief Department for Marxist-Leninist Education" on the cover. It actually deals with French enlightenment historiography. I just honestly find anything related to the previous regime sort of funny for some reason.
I borrowed volume on of Montesquieu's Spirit of Laws to check out the China-relevant chapters. Basically before leaving class I borrow something digitally and by the time I arrive to the library I can pick it up already. I deposited the previous book and I was on my way.
Had dinner. I need to prepare a bit for tomorrow's Chinese class.
No.13768
>>13763You are curious at least. Is this like a kind of I want this but I need to make fun of it so I'm not looking complicit or unmanly?
>>13764>Afaik CBT is about breaking out of negative thought loops, behaviors and emotional patterns. It's not about rationalizing the situation.>Now, it would not solve the actual problem that's causing these thoughts and behaviors, but it would maybe help you be more productive so you can solve them yourself.Pretty much yeah. It's my experience. You react and handle differently objective reality if you will
your thoughts and objective reality are not the same thing, your feelings towards the "outside" are not congruent with the outside automatically. They are part of objective reality though ofc. It's unpolitical as approach
isnt that great? no marxist mumbo jumbo, just science, but also realistic enough since communist wonderland is not around the corner, so instead of feeling shitty and insecure about some things I manage better and eventually can shape minor things in objective reality, certainly not political but at least in day to day interaction with humans like your family, friends and lovers. Not everything is determined by capitalism, except when you are a die-hard marxist maybe.
No.13769 KONTRA
>>13768Lenin, forgive them. They know not what material forces puppeteer them.
No.13770
>>13767CBT in the form that is discussed in this itt thread is certainly not as well-known an abbreviation as the other one, mainly because all that mental health voodoo has only been gaining traction in younger times, so the degenerates had a long time of keeping it for themselves.
It's the same with BBC - thanks to americans people are less likely to talk about the british broadcast company anymore.
No.13771
>>13768> to make fun of it I wrote the post in a humorous manner in order to entertain (you) and receive more attention. But behind the not-serious form there is a legit critique of CBT (to be precise, demarcation of its applicability).
>>13764> it would maybe help you be more productive Or maybe less productive. What I'm saying is that often the problem is lack of cognitive distortions, not their presence.
No.13773 KONTRA
>>13769https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/books/psychology-private-individual>>13771>there is a legit critique of CBT There is, yes.
>What I'm saying is that often the problem is lack of cognitive distortionsHow do you know and what exactly do you mean by this?
If your objective reality is you lost your legs than CBT won't bring back your legs obviously but it can counter negative thoughts that revolve around the (negative) affect of having lost your legs. If you don't have thought spirals about going to war and loosing your legs and how you could be such a fucking dumb idiotic cunt that voluntarily went and lost its legs for nothing than CBT would try to deal with that thought which is one of many thoughts you can have about that objective reality. CBT is then not about turning these thoughts into thoughts into "oh yes, it's so great I lost my legs!"
No.13774 KONTRA
Also, CBT doesn't make much sense if you do not mix it with other approaches that ask for the reasons in the first place. Usually a good therapist knows how to combine approaches is what I read.
No.13775 KONTRA
I just realized that all of CBT can be subsumed under the more profane "man the fuck up".
inb4 mad betas telling me that "manning up" only means to suppress one's feelings
No.13776
>>13775What does manning the fuck up procedure look like?
No.13777
I just found out that I was residing close to Daniela Klette's home in Berlin last year. The area across the street is where the housing complex she lived in is located.
No.13778
https://www.tiktok.com/@socalgastrodoc/video/7338217688004627755The Western sphere cannot handle the truth. Get the fuck up!
A jog around the camp every morning and later cbt sessions in the barracks and you are as good as new over the summer.
No.13779
Beautiful ride in to work this morning. Drove home in a whiteout.
>>13752What did Windows mean by this? Who benefits?
>>13761>What would change?The myth that any citizen can work their way up and into a position of financial power would finally die.
No.13783
>>13777You basically lived next door to a friendly middle-aged woman who kept hand-grenade(s)(?) in her flat. Somewhat surreal.
Also, she made hundreds of thousands from robbing super markets and still couldn't afford a better place. There's something wrong with our housing market.
No.13787 KONTRA
Why are you so obsessed with somd old terrorist cunt?
No.13789 KONTRA
A German tried to trick me today into doing unpaid work.
Luckily, he couldn't have picked a worst mark for his treacherous krautshit ways. All Germans must hang (for progressive reasons).
No.13790
>>13789I wanted to make a "lazy southerners" joke here, but I am too tired from wörk.
What did he try to make you do?
No.13792
>>13783Imagine they'd found this kind of weaponry with some Reichsbürger
No.13794
>>13793>That happened.Never denied that. But note how the way the article is written differs.
No.13796
>>13794Consider that Reichsbürger have different goals than Klette who obviously used them for robbery and not to attack "the state"
>>13789Your posts here keep Germans occupied with typing. Malicous.
No.13798
>>13796>who obviously used them for robbery and not to attack "the state">RAF>not attacking the statelol, lmao even
I mean yeah, in practice they probably didn't and couldn't, simply because they were constantly on the run due to their bad choices, but your statement is pretty funny nonetheless in this context.
Maybe you listened to RAF by Wizo not too long ago and unironically agree with the lyrical self.
Or maybe you don't even know what the RAF is(was)?
No.13799 KONTRA
>>13798>Or maybe you don't even know what the RAF is(was)?Or maybe I'm realistic enough given contextual information? You make yourself look dumb. Do yo really think three people are a danger to the German state when they did nothing else but robbery in 25 years?
Obviously the RAF was against the German state, but thinking that Klette, Staub and Garweg are still on that mission is plain stupid. The RAF declared dissolvement in 1998 and in 1999 they robbed that money transporter to get by living "underground" because what choice was left besides becoming homeless or captivity?
Your argument is built on the commonality of owning firearms. As if this is sufficient information for what they will be doing with it.
No.13800
>>13799>Do yo really think three people are a danger to the German state when they did nothing else but robbery in 25 years?Do you think people with a bunch of air rifles and crossbows are?
If we can apprehend substitute truck drivers for death camp guard uniforms 70 years later why not also RAF supporters/accomplices?
Play stupid games, win stupid prices, mitgefangen, mitgehangen, etc.
No.13801
>>13800>why not also RAF supporters/accomplicesWhere in my posts do I deny that Klette or the remaining people suspected having conducted assassinations will face punishment from the German state? Obviously that is why they are still looking for them and not just the robberies.
>Do you think people with a bunch of air rifles and crossbows are?Unlike the former RAF memebers these people actively plan on attacking or "defending" themselves against the state and its representatives in the present. That is the crucial different, don't play dumb.
No.13802
Both farmers and RAF are based because they fight against American occupation of Europe with all the means possible.
No.13804 KONTRA
Wow, never knew any of these things about the Royal Air Force.
>>13779>What did Windows mean by this?Probably means that the user should seek an alternative operating system. That's how I see it anyways.
No.13806
>>13801>Unlike the former RAF memebers But they are not "former" RAF members. They *are* RAF members, and apparently they still were fighting their fight (else they'd just handed themselves in years ago), even if it's just the hiding phase. Stop playing so dumb.
No.13807 KONTRA
>>13806The RAF does not exist anymore, hence they are former RAF members. This is not the hiding phase between attacks on the state, this is simply evading getting imprisoned after your political cause dissolved. Klette lived the harmless life of an older single lady for decades if you subtract the robberies to finance this because there is no other way to finance such a life as a former terrorist. I don't think the math tutoring she did for the neighbor's kids paid enough if she took money at all.
What I think is really interesting is that she traveled to Latin America with a fake passport.
No.13809
Chinese class was good. I surprised myself again by being able to communicate with the native speaker teacher.
After class I came home and had lunch. I cleaned up my desk area in the garden and sat outside to read for a bit before deciding it was still too cold so I came back inside after finishing like 50 pages.
I'm running out of page markers and post-it notes.
There was another Chinese book club event organised for today. I didn't read the book but I went anyway. After the event I talked with one of the presenters and managed to arrange to have the publisher she works at donate some books for our college.
"I don't get why didn't you send an e-mail."
"I think for matters like this, at least one personal meeting is the right conduct."
I told her about the institution and the "Noble cause of Hungarian education" and she said "We will give you everything, worry not!"
I had the nicest cup of earl grey and I was so hopped up on caffeine (Also had my usual cup of coffee after lunch while in the garden) and my success that I practically ran to the metro station afterwards. I think I could have tried to chat up the former diplomat guy who was present. I could have. Should have maybe. I don't know.
When I arrived home I was still in a rather good mood, and the kind where my father would ask me if I had taken drugs while out. It didn't happen, instead my mother asked me if I'd been drinking.
Professor re-reviewed my article and said with these changes it's now a very good text. I'll look through his comments and do another round of editing and then I will submit it for the volume. I hope I'm not the last to do so.
Finally have the contract from the magazine. They managed to re-germanise my mother's name on accident but I honestly don't give a fuck really. I'll just send it with priority mail and hope they give me the cash as soon as possible.
All this ado about 35 Euros. On one hand it's petty, on the other, I need the money, and there's also the principle. I earned that money. It's just that I take it.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.>>13804>Probably means that the user should seek an alternative operating system. I'm honestly banking on Valve winning with Proton in the long term. I don't want to go on a laggardist rant about Windows 11 but I just feel like a Linux install would be so much cleaner to have instead of whatever the fuck Windows has morphed into since 7.
Honestly I have fond memories of my misadventures with Linux during high school.
No.13811
>>13809Aside from gamers not switching to GNU/Linux (a problem that's being worked on by Valve), another problem was that game developers prefer Visual Studio because it had the best GUI debugger for C++, or rather, the only good one. As is everything Microsoft, it's been getting shittier over the years.
But now Epic has bought RAD game tools, and is releasing their debugger as open source, with a planned GNU/Linux port in the future:
https://github.com/EpicGamesExt/raddebuggerNow the only thing that's left is for GNU/Linux people to clean up their fucking userspace like Linus warned them to.
No.13812
>>13807They wrote a letter
> We don't exist anymore please leave us aloneBut it's obvious they still exist. How else can they be on the loose for decades, continuing to terrorize ordinary people by robbing them at gunpoint? Where do they get their fake passports if not from the RAF logistics structure? Why did Klette live in the known radical-leftist ulcer that is Kreuzberg? It's a terrorist nest where antifa, eco-idiots, and so on are free to do as they please, without being kept in check by the police.
We would never allow such "people" here, they'd be driven away. Some years ago, leftists had a coming here where they lived like gypsies, but after a few of their dogs died and after a few of their windows broke and after some old beater of a car burned out, they decided that it was bad luck living here and left.
RAF still exists, and Berlin needs to be smoked out to get rid of the left pest. Search every house, question everyone who ever lived in Berlin. Berlin is full of leftists / foreigners / criminals and needs to be cleansed or, better, nuked.
No.13813 KONTRA
>>13807>The RAF does not exist anymore, hence they are former RAF members. Ah, now I truly see. So that means they didn't execute nazis in Nürnberg because NS didn't exist anymore at that time. Good to know.
>Klette lived the harmless life of an older single lady for decades if you subtract the robberiesAnd Fritzl lived the harmless life of a married man for decades if you subtract the daughter raping. Adolf Eichmann even lived the harmless life of a bureaucrat the whole time, he never even personally killed anyone! I bet he was even nice to children and animals. How does that possibly warrant gettig killed by the Mossad?
Why are you going to such lengths to defend a terrorist? She got what was coming to her, period. Also, there's a Rattenlinien/Mahler joke somewhere in that LatAm journey.
No.13815
>>13813> Why are you going to such lengths to defend a terrorist? Because they are the good guys. Better ask yourself: why are you defending American occupational government? What is wrong with assassinating them?
No.13816
>>13813>Why are you going to such lengths to defend a terrorist? She got what was coming to her, periodWhere do I defend her? Learn to read what is written, not speculate on what you think I think.
The whole discussion came from Reichsbürger and Klette press reports and their difference. I just argued that Klette was no active danger ("harmless" for the state unlike Reichsbürger. I never talked about justice, law etc. because I dont fucking care but apparently you do and need to vent to me about how and totally miss the point with your emotional shitshow.
>>13812So many words wasted. The RAF did no propaganda of the deed in 30 years. There is no RAF anymore.
No.13817 KONTRA
>>13816>Where do I defend her? Du Ernst?
>yeah bro she's actually harmless>she tutored math bro, TO KIDS!>she's no danger bro! No.13818
>>13817Stop seething and you will be a bit more clear-headed.
I said she was harmless besides the robberies. Which does not mean she was entirely harmless. But harmless as an active danger towards the state and its representatives in the last 30 years. She and Staub/Garweg did not plot any attacks on politicians, business people, or institutional places.
She tutored kids, so what? I used this as an example of her probable income besides these robberies. Her dance classes and facebook profile, tutoring activies etc. show that she usually lived a normal older single woman life, what about it?
No.13819
>>13818...and you keep on doing it, just amazing.
No.13820
>>13819Are you dumb? Do you understand what differentiation and conditionality is? Do you understand that my reasoning stems from a comparison with the Reichsbürger which was probably your Aufschrei?
I simply have to assume that no you are not able to classify reality in a finer mesh than big brush categories. I get it, makes things a lot simpler and helps with constant seething.
No.13821
>>13820>hurr durr u seethingNo, Ernst, it's you who is aggressive here. You call me dumb, you call me seething, you accuse me of not being able to detect nuance when you keep conflating "defending" with "absolving".
It must be hard constantly twisting reality in a way to prevent cognitive dissonance. I wonder if your head would actually explode if you perceived reality as it is for just a single moment.
No.13822
>>13821Oh lord, why was I born between Germans?
I don't say what RAF/Klette did was great, nor do I say she should not face juridical justice and yet you think I say both these things, or what is it that you think exactly?
All I said is Klette is no active danger to the state, unlike Reichsbürger. Not sure why you think that is a defense of Klette. It is an argument for why Klette is treated differently than Reichsbürger is a journalistic article. It's argued from a perspective of present-day Staatsschutz, do you get that? Can you articulate in your own words my argument? If you don't I assume you did not understand it.
No.13823
>>13822>All I said is Klette is no active danger to the state, unlike Reichsbürger. Not sure why you think that is a defense of Klette.That's just NOT "all" you said. I even referenced it in an earlier post.
But I get it, you are far too deep into this argument to back off, because of your inherent inability to admit that you're wrong; must be a consequence of that apparent brain damage you have.
No.13824
>>13823>I even referenced it in an earlier post.You take some snippets, transplant them into your delusional scaffold, and then project them back to me.
You are not able to give an account of my argument hence not able to understand me. Sima wohl geschiedne Leut
No.13825 KONTRA
>>13824>ur just too dum dum to understand my extremely smart postingsSure then, keep strutting around the chessboard like the proverbial chicken, if it makes you happy.
No.13826 KONTRA
It’s not about presenting an active threat to the current administration of Germany in Klatte’s case. It’s about carrying out a legislative process that’s necessary in any criminal case. Her’s just got dragged out.
If suddenly the Reichsbürger Armee Fraktion blew up a couple of cars, robbed a few banks and then disappeared for 30 years they would be hunted down and charged just like Klatte, because it is important for the state to present itself as able. You cannot rest even after 30 years, we will get you and you will be punished for breaking THE LAW. Her current existence is meaningless in this regard, she’s not being charged for being a middle aged woman giving maths lessons.
As for the media presentation, well, what do you expect with the current paradigm in Germany? Of course a right-reactionary who posed a current threat from the standpoint of society will get harsher media treatment than a leftist urban guerilla who’s capture and charging 30 years after the fact is more of an oddity. It’s an anomaly. Klatte’s capture from the standpoint of anti-terrorism is nigh meaningless save for the fact that the government and the police got to demonstrate their power accross time and can put an end to the story.
No.13828
I wanted to mock the Germans for debating whether or not arresting this individual, but in my country she'd be free, as her crimes would have all prescribed. Then again, the same would apply to Mengele by the 1970s. It would also be a crime to gravely offend the memory of Adolf Hitler.
At least we're consistent!
No.13829
>>13826>Klatte’s capture from the standpoint of anti-terrorism is nigh meaningless save for the fact that the government and the police got to demonstrate their power accross time and can put an end to the story.Thank dog at least somebody got it.
Both Reichsbürger and RAF are anti-state. Just that Klette is no imminent danger to the state and thus gets treated as such. She was considered harmless in the context of terroristic, anti state activities. As you said: these people still need to face the procedures of the state against its enemies. That is important for the state, even 30 years after. But the state is not worried that this person will conduct attacks on the state and its representatives, unlike Reichsbürger. It's a simple argument that takes the sovereign as its origin.
No.13830 KONTRA
>>13811I honestly have high hopes for this. I remember seeing an interview with Linus from like a decade ago where he kind of predicted that ultimately it’ll be the backing of some tech company that will bring about the year of the Linux desktop, and he mentioned Valve specificially, due to their efforts to standardise shit and the weight they carry due to the software library on their platform.
I’m not following tech-news every day but it also seems like Microsoft is preparing for a post-windows world too, so that also makes this switch more likely. Like the only thing besides games that kept me on windows really was Office, but with the (somewhat clunky) web-UI version it works on any platform basically.
I’m optimistic honestly that we will end up with cleaner desktops in the next 5-10 years.
Of course the die-hard Linux fans see this as some sort of grand betrayal because their OS is accomodating users instead of changing them. Basically the hardcore freetards want every user to be a programmer and electrician changing capacitors on a motherboard and debugging the kernel when in reality this is just a fancy typewriter and TV to most people.
No.13831 KONTRA
>>13829>Thank dog at least somebody got it. Nobody was denying that, the whole argument was that you were defending and playing down RAF terrorism, you dishonest, guileful, lying piece of shit.
But go ahead, please, explain to me how a bunch of retirees with make-shift weapons can be considered a danger to the state.
The RAF at least has an actual track record, and that with way less people.
It's almost as if this whole Reichsbürger thing is blown completely out of proportion while actual perpetrators are considered mostly harmless (except for the robberies and such, but oh well :^) by people like you. It was all just propaganda by deed, after all, right? inb4 "I was being ironic"
No.13832
>>13829>after 30 yearStatute of limitations. She can be sentenced for the robberies, but even the newest were ca. 10 years back. If the state wants to punish someone, they better get their act together and do it in time.
No.13833
>>13831>you were defending and playing down RAF terrorismWhen did I say anything about the actions of the RAF and made a personal judgment about these? Quote lengthy i.e. whole chain of thoughts.
You won't find anything because I did not make a personal political or moral judgement about the RAF. I think it is the latter that irks you immensely because you want some moral statement from me about the RAF. You think that making no moral judgment = endorsing the RAF position and its actions. A logical fallacy. I was never interested in an argument that is based in morals, merely argue from the viewpoint of the state and Hungary at least got that right away, seems like he has some skills you don't have. This has nothing to do with trying to make a smart post, but it is certainly about making a specific argument. That you usually take a coarse approach when arguing is nothing new to me but it seems to stand in the way of tracing arguments of others.
>explain to me how [...]I make an argument that takes the sovereign as an origin. Do I come across as a sovereign or a representative to you? I hope I don't because I'm not a state and its institutions nor one of the people that make it sure it stays stable like this.
Only prayer will help at this point I guess.
No.13836 KONTRA
>>13833>and Hungary at least got that right awayDid you just not read my post or chose to ignore? Probably the latter because you still keep repeating wrong points that you just so chose to use and I never made.
You can only deflect, lie, use subterfuge and semantics to prevent moving even a mu into a direction where you'd have to admit you're not an infallible authority on the discourse at hand.
I originally planned to humor you, but you're so aggressively revolting and stupid that I now see that is is absolutely useless arguing with you in any kind of ironic way.
Also, if you so hate being born between Germans, why are you visiting the sidelined successor to the resurrected offshoot of the german version of a laotian yak milk fermenting forum that is known for its frequent german bickering?
You came here by your own free will, yet you apparently seek to sow discord and THEN complain about it. It's the same mindset as a chud obsessed with trannies.
So why not leave (be it the country or imageboard)? Go to wherever you deem acceptable, nobody will mind you not being there anymore and the rest can lurk in peace.
No.13837
>>13836>irrelevant yapping that diverges from the argument and even further from the "object of discussion"Ich sag's nochmal auf Deutsch:
Du kannst mein Argument nicht wiedergeben, bist also anscheindend nicht in der Lage, es zu überhaupt zu verstehen. Sima wohl geschiedne Leut
Also: don't plan on "humoring" me when you can't handle this shit.
No.13838 KONTRA
>>13837Yeah, I know that you have no arguments. You keep repeating yourself, all your posts boil down to "uh, that's not what I meant" and/or "uh, you're too dumb to understand".
And you already made the "separated people" comment. Wondering why you still feel the need to reply.
No.13839
What's surprising to me is how much Google dropped the ball on eating Microsoft's lunch, when it comes to corporate office software, hosting, collaboration software, etc.
No.13840
>>13838>You keep repeating yourselfYes, and I repeat both the argument and my impression that you don't get it. I can only do so much.
No.13841
>>13838>I know that you have no arguments. Hungary articulated the argument in his post as well ☠️
No.13843
>>13842Yes, I'm seething.
No.13845
>>13844It starts making sense.
The foreigners are afraid of united germans, hence they are trying to facilitate dissent among them under the guise of "competing with /b/ for the most posts".
Quite perfidous, and albionball hasn't been seen in quite some while.
But I won't fall for you ploy, and instead make two more posts on /b/ now. Watch me:
No.13846 KONTRA
>>13811>Epic has bought RAD game tools, and is releasing their debugger as open source, with a planned GNU/Linux port in the futureDidn't know of this. Great news.
>>13830>year of the Linux desktopNext year will finally be it.
>>13839When Google came out with Gmail, Wave, Sheets and shieet it seemed like Office was done for. Then they did nothing for 10 years and now everyone's using O365.
No.13847
>>13757>Linux users are vegans of the IT world.In
IT world Linux users are the majority.
No.13848
>>13847Which one? Every single piece of productive software runs on proprietary systems.
Network cucks are only there to serve the end user chad, and with increasing clouding they will be out of a job soon anyway. Oh, and industry 4.0 and internet of things and AI.
No.13849 KONTRA
>>13847Only if you're really charitable with the definition of an user.
No.13851 KONTRA
Actually ur only a user if u compile ur own kernel
No.13854
>>13853While they did great things during the war, they did pioneer the use of Agent Orange. That's not good!
No.13857
>>13854I was thinking of the parole "Bomber Harris Do It Again" which originated in Germany
Mr. Harris:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Harris
>Harris took command of No. 5 Group RAF in England, and in February 1942 was appointed head of Bomber Command. He retained that position for the rest of the war. In the same year, the British Cabinet agreed to the "area bombing" of German cities. Harris was given the task of implementing Churchill's policy and supported the development of tactics and technology to perform the task more effectively. Harris assisted British Chief of the Air Staff Marshal of the Royal Air Force Charles Portal in carrying out the United Kingdom's most devastating attacks against the German infrastructure and population, including the Bombing of DresdenFrom German Wikiepdia
>The exclamation Bomber Harris do it again! was a campaign by 23-year-old student and former Pirate politician Mercedes Reichstein on Twitter, with which she said she wanted to express her protest against the right-wing Pegida movement.So yeah, the RAF did nothing wrong, death to Germlings, so that we never are bothered by their bickering again.
No.13858 KONTRA
>>13857Loled at the idea
Dresden frankly deserved it. Just look at today Sachsen
No.13859
>>13853Facts.
At this point American empire is collapsing and you may say it openly. No need to play lawyer like that German guy. Even if regime puts you in prison for supporting RAF, you will be freed by revolutionaries long before end of your term.
No.13860 KONTRA
>>13853>buzzwordbingo.jpgI am too dumb to make out what that's supposed to tell me, how the filename is even related to the image, whether I am to take it serious and what this has to do with anything in the thread.
No.13861
>>13860It's just the self-hating german making ironic (actually not lelelel) posts. But because he is even more potato german than the germans he so much hates he completely fails at any attempt at humor.
No.13862
>>13860Probably just an accidently overwritten image.
>>13861Ach Herr Haldol, did I wake you up again?
No.13866
I woke up as usual and did a treadmill session and some lifting, had a shower. Had lunch and a coffee. My father was watching TikTok loudly and he's getting into dangerous as fuck territory because alongside the health-grifters he now also listens to crypto-web3 stuff too like there was one where a male audibly middling intelligence and hairline talked about how "The blockchain and web3.0 will revolutionarise sport!" and at that point I just said "You know 80% of those words weren't in the Bible, right?" and of course he understood what I was getting at, but whenever I tell him something he feels the need to impart wisdom on me in return, not as some sort of malicious act, but as a defence mechanism on his part so that he feels just as "educated" as me. So he told me "80% of the food we eat today didn't exist 50 years ago. Just like 80% of our illnesses." he said as he was spreading margarine on a piece of bread.
I really wish he didn't feel like he had to prove something. Okay, he doesn't have a HS diploma. Who cares? He has an amazing skillset, doesn't drink or smoke, a marriage that at this rate will really last until death does them apart and a successful business. Who cares if he was never a bookworm? He's a real stand-up guy.
Mom came home early and threw a banknote at me, telling me to go to the pharmacy, so I added that to my list of tasks for the day. Of course before I left I spent like 20 minutes talking about my Chinese classes to her. My goal for the day was to go to the post office, the pharmacy and the stationery store to pick up some page markers.
The post office was relatively empty, only a few pensioners shuffling around. One of them dropped her papers without noticing and I gave them back to her. They made sending mail more expensive.
Stationery store was closed already, and the pharmacy was actually deserted. The door was open, but all the lights and screens were off and there was no clerk to be seen anywhere. I decided not to be a nuisance and went to the other pharmacy. Basically I took a long walk throughout town. Checked out a few monuments and the like. Also found a random government employment office. I got on the bus to go to class but then I noticed I left my papers at home so I went home instead. I found a stationery store by the bus station so I picked up some pagemarkers there and then I went to class.
I was the first to arrive so I borrowed the projector and the room name from the guard's office and opened the room and set things up. Before class I was still in a very good mood due to caffeine so I was just talking about random stuff I have read, which culminated in me slamming the table with my hand when I remembered a theory that came to my head during a night of reading. I began to explain that how in the Kojiki Ninigi-no-Mikoto descends to mount Takachiho or whatever and then he essentially establishes a divine rule over the lands of Japan. And I thought that this was interesting because isn't this kind of in parallel with the myth of the Kim family in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea where Kim Il-sung is said to have been born on Mt. Paektu?
A Koreanist member of the workshop came to my rescue, she's a very erudite girl and I envy how she can carry out her work without being melodramatic about everything like I am. I respect her immensely, but I think I said this before. Anyway, she told me that apparently in Korean cosmogony there is a story about a god of wind descending on Mt. Paektu with a retinue of heavenly servants to rule over the lands, and the Kim family's story is a reference to that, but man, what kind of an instinct was that on my part?
No.13867
Lecturer was visibly tired but still talked for over two and a half hours about geopolitics and China. He riffed on Hungarian journalist saying that "The average is uneducated, the most cultured ones speak only English and so they just take reports from the NYT or CNN. Something happens in Vienna and they don't get on the fucking train, they just read what Washington has to say about it."
He talked a lot about declining American power projection and how the elite's socialisation on American hegemony is making things harder. He put it quite bluntly: "I want you all to remember this thing: Losing power fucking sucks!"
There was also this tangent he went on about the issues of conducting geopolitics along moral lines, saying how the more you demonise your enemies the harder it will be to make up with them. "I don't deny that Putin's a pretty fucked up guy. But if you keep calling him the devil and call for his death every day as a citizen then you are essentially making it impossible for politicians to sit down and talk. Our moral position is essentially paid for with ukrainian blood. And in the end, with no force to enforce with, we will eventually have to sit down with a ruler and a map of Eastern Europe and draw the lines we would have drawn two years ago too, except we killed millions in the process. Being moral is a good thing, and hard to argue against. Being amoral can be disgusting. In an ideal world we'd have no war and no Putin. But this isn't an ideal world. Shouldn't we make the best of that instead?"
It was a good lecture overall I think. Gave me much to think about honestly.
(He also invited us to read Thucydides. Honestly the two Hungarian books I want to get right now are both Greek classics. There's this cool as fuck edition of Hermes Trismegistos' works I have from the library and have been flipping through I think I need to own and a used copy of the Peloponnese War.
I got home and made a plate of fries for dinner. Don't exactly know why. I just wanted to eat something salty. I wish I had some earl gray tea. I exhausted the box I had in my room in case my mother buys yellow label instead of earl grey and now I'm stuck drinking yellow label and I honestly just miss the bergamot aroma. I just realised that I've been drinking the stuff for like 23 years but I have zero clue what the fuck "Bergamot" is. This requires an investigation. Apparently it's an orange. Wow.
No.13870 KONTRA
>Europe fights back>"Aim past him so he doesn't get mad" t. G*rman "leader"T. Binnish tabloid
>>13867>Being amoral can be disgusting. In an ideal world we'd have no war and no Putin. But this isn't an ideal world. Shouldn't we make the best of that instead?He meant doing everything that we humanely can to support the killing of as many Russian invaders as we can, right?
No.13871
>>13870What is that caricature trying to say? And is that supposed to be von der Leyen?
No.13873
>>13872There is no joke. I am seriously wondering what this caricature is trying to say, especially considering that Germany is giving more aid both in absolute terms as well as e.g. share of GDP than Finland.
No.13874 KONTRA
I hate France's universalism. I hate France. God I hate France. I hate France so much. Everything in France is to be hated. The more I understand it, the more I hate it. France is the BIGGEST Satan. Shit upon France.
No.13878 KONTRA
>>13873>Since the start of the Russian war of aggression on 24 February 2022, Germany has provided around 5.2 billion euros worth of materials from the Federal Armed Forces’ supplies to Ukraine.t.
https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992>Germany GDP 2023 $4.4 trillion
>Finland’s defence materiel assistance to Ukraine totals around EUR 1.8 billion.t.
https://um.fi/finland-s-support-to-ukraine>Finland GDP 2023 $302 billionThe joke is somewhere in there.
No.13880
>>13878My numbers are different, but you're right that Finland does spend a higher share of GDP; my argumentation in that other post was based on older data, I guess.
Then again, Germany does not have a border with Russia and people here don't hate the russians as much. And our politicians used to love them.
I also wonder if there are caricatures in estonian newspapers about how their big neighbour isn't pulling his weight.
No.13881
>>13874Oh yeah, if you hate France so much, can you sing Die Wacht am Rhein?
Do you only say that because she is french or because you're larping as a Prussian? No.13883 KONTRA
>>13882Why are you speaking for swissball?
No.13884 KONTRA
>>13883Deutsche Einheit…
The Prussians speak for everyone…
No.13885
>>13884>deutsche Einheit>SwitzerlandEven annexing Hungary is more natural because of Austria-Hungary and Austria being essentially a german state anyway.
No.13886
>>13881From memory:
Es braust ein ruff wie Donnerhall
Wie Schwegenklirr und Vogenpral
Am Rhein am Rhein am Deutsche Rhein
Wo alle Storme hütter sein
Lieb Vaterland magst ruhig sein
Lieb Vaterland magst ruhig sein
Fest steht und treu die Wacht die Wacht am Rhein
Fest steht und treu die Wacht die Wacht am Rhein
[…]
Und alle Augen blitzen hell
Die Deutsche leute stau und starck
[..] die heiliges Landesmark
Lieb Vaterland magst ruhig sein
Lieb Vaterland magst ruhig sein
Fest steht und treu die Wacht die Wacht am Rhein
Fest steht und treu die Wacht die Wacht am Rhein
I know some words I wrote do not exist.
For the other posts. I ‘m criticizing the borgeois revolution indeed. Prussia or the Bundesrepublik aren’t the way either though, quite obviously. But the arrogance of the class system and ideology of France makes me aggressive.
She was French too I guess No.13887
>>13886How c&a. You don't speak german, I suppose?
Someone from my extended family is swiss and he only speaks french and english.
No.13888
>>13887I learned German in school but it could be better lol
No.13889
>>13883Because I studied humanities at the Unität and thus know these things. I majored in Confidence Studies which from the outside looks like arrogance btw.
>>13886>I ‘m criticizing the borgeois revolution indeed.See? The years paid off with just a single imageboard interaction.
No.13890
лшдд фдд цршещшвы
No.13892 KONTRA
>>13891Imagine the new world order is actually Germans arguing about giving rights away in some kind of vague utilitarian perspective, euro-bureaucratic jargon, in 17 bullet points filled with buzzwords to powerful people and it works. Why are we so weak?
No.13894 KONTRA
I stopped psychmed
No.13898
>>13894Just now or couple of days ago?
No.13899 KONTRA
I'm going to try to break into a boarded up old cinema before the municipal council tears it down to build a hotel to host more hordes of tourists. It doesn't seem like anyone was in there since, all entries appear to be bricked up, so I'll need to enter through the second floor. It's in a very central area, with multiple commieblocks overlooking the back of it. Taking a ladder to it is the easiest move, but would also draw too much attention.
No.13900
>>13899From watching various 1UP movies some years ago I'm under the impression the typical Southerner (Portuguese) does not care if vandalism is occuring.
Please do it and make an IWO.
My tip: But on something like a construction worker west and do it in broad day light, wear a construction worker helmet even.
t. yours dearly cybernetics ernst
No.13901 KONTRA
>>13900>the typical Southerner (Portuguese) does not care if vandalism is occuring.I don't know what a 1UP movie is, but that's a very ignorant statement. Out of a desire to maintain formality and friendliness in the board, I will not pontificate on the sorts of crimes Germans are prone to ignoring.
Day time is impossible, too much movement.
No.13902
>>13901I am so sorry you had to see this. He's a sad terminally online existence, so please don't hold it against us.
My question is: Why?
Just general UrbEx or are you speculating on finding some kind of loot? I know a guy who got a bunch of seats from a cinema closing down, but in your case they're probably too old and wasted to bring them home.
No.13903
The US is a de facto theocracy. Because its ruling class consists exclusively of the clergy of the Masonic Church.
No.13906 KONTRA
>>13905Never thought I'd be so rapidly swayed to an extreme pro-lynching position.
No.13907
>>13906Ach Ach, apparently I was right and 10 years ago nobody in your country's capital cared if people committed acts of vandalism in the street.
Just get your construction worker vest and helmet and get into the building in daylight. It might sound counterintuive but it is probably less suspecting if you confidently walk into the building like that is supposed to be your job than do it at midnight like a hobo or crime-committing youth.
No.13908 KONTRA
>>13907I think it's the lack of violent response that makes you think people don't care. Evidently, your people only understand violence.
No.13909
>>13907Also not sure if you are a rookie but if you go into a building at night in the center, will somebody see your flashlight from outside or do you plan on going blindly exploring the soon-to-be-gone cinema?
No.13910
>>13908They didn't call the police, so I have to assume they did not care ENOUGH. And that is all that you want for your little action as well.
No.13911 KONTRA
>>13907You can also add some fitting tools to your outfit, even better disguise.
No.13912 KONTRA
>>13906If you don't love graffiti, you are an nazi and worse than Hitler, you fucking nazi.
No.13913 KONTRA
>>13898A couple of days ago. I’m at a social gathering and I just said to a female friend of mine she had Jewish facial features and looked like a mouse. That’s bad, very very bad
No.13915
>>139141UP are whities though.You should argue that whites claim their natural space in the south by, it was an act of colonization.
No.13916
>>13915Thanks for clarification. They're domestic terrorists driven by white fragility.
graffiti painters should be raped in ass, regardless of skin color No.13917 KONTRA
>>13914Most grafters are white in the Swiss
No.13918
>>13915>>13917What we colloquially call "graffiti" is a black culture thing though.
No.13919
>>13916They are not domestic nor foreign terrorists but reclaiming rightful white clay in the South. I plan to open a cinema there where I will show old Heimatfilme from the 1950s and no Portuguese will be allowed to enter, not even when they have a workers vest on. A strict segregation is the only solution. Germanies economy is stronger which means Germans are more intelligent than Portugese making us the rightful owners and administrators of Portuguese land. Ein Platz an der Sonne, diesmal für immer.
No.13920
>>13918I heard that there was graffiti in ancient Rome, was that some Nubian immigrants?
No.13921
>>13900>From watching various 1UP movies some years ago I'm under the impression the typical Southerner (Portuguese) does not care if vandalism is occuring.Afaik graffiti is not considered a severe crime but merely a petty offense in several souther European countries. Maybe people care less for that reason.
>>13917KCBR is best crew
No.13923
>>13919> showing HeimatfilmeThat's a violation of the Geneva convention.
No.13924
>>13916>should be raped in the assPublicly, with a cactus.
No.13925
>>13920Yes. The Roman emperor's were also black, it's just that the paint was removed by renaissance racists.
No.13926
TYroNE WUZ HeRe
No.13927 KONTRA
>>13920What about "what we colloquially call graffiti" did you not understand?
No.13928
>>13927Graffiti like letters on walls?
No.13930 KONTRA
>>13928Graffiti like "what sprayers and taggers do"
No.13932 KONTRA
>>13931Glorifying graffiti is exactly what the types of people in your picture would do. When are you going to grow up?
No.13933
Spraypainting the walls is the juvenile thing to do.
Scratching train car windows is the patrician's activity.
No.13938
>>13922>Shoot on sightToo violent. But Berliners who come here and graffiti should be tied to a lamp post. Would the ambassador even protest?
No.13939
I finished reading the Kojiki and then also read some Greek poetry. Also read from Zinoviev's Homo Sovieticus.
Vacuumed the room and threw out the trash.
Getting better at running I feel like.
The weather was bad today. Forecast says it will be nearly 20 degrees outside tomorrow. I'm hoping to get out and read in the garden.
No.13940
>>13938Stop being so racist and embrace the cultural enrichment, you nazi FUCK
No.13942
>>13918This. Even you're against graffiti drawn by white people, you're still racist because you hate Black culture.
>>13938Seething about "Berliners" is what usually white supremacists do.
No.13943
Graffiti is based because it is an attack on private property & makes people mad.
Should be banned under Communism though.
No.13944
>>13943Here let me draw a dick on your spectacles real quick
No.13945
>>13943Strangely mostly made on public property
No.13946
I want to find the good horse and become insane like Nietzsche
No.13947
>>13835>lol
>aiding and abiding murderMurder (crimes according to §211 StGB) is the only crime in the German criminal code that can be prosecuted indefinitely.
It is theoretically possible that Klette will be sentenced for attempted murder, but unless she or someone else confesses and explains what concrete steps she took to aid the attempted murder, I consider it unlikely that there will be sufficient evidence. (Like someone can't be charged with murder simply for being a member of the SS, we can't charge people with murder simply for being a member of the RAF.) What remains of her RAF past is mostly membership in a terrorist organization, but the prosecutor's time for that ran out in 2019.
From the late nineties to 2016, there was a series of robberies, she can and will be prosecuted for those, but ~10 years after the crimes, her being sentenced to more than ~6 years of prison would be a surprise. The weapons found in her flat won't help her case.
No.13950
>>13945Yes, because this is one of many ways how bourgeoisie uses lumpen-proles to attack actual proletarians.
No.13951 KONTRA
>>13950>lumpenGraffiti's are a past-time of bored middle-class teenagers who cos-play as american black lumpen. Some sprayers aren't teenagers anymore, they turned their cosplay into a profession. Such people might even be paid by the government for their "art", I kid you not.
No.13952 KONTRA
>>13951Graffiti usually attracts several economic classes. If it indeed is black culture then young turks for example found a way to live it out in Germany in the 1980s and 1990s among others. Probably less about being black but being scum in the eyes of others that makes this a viable choice in cultural expression. You are not allowed or adequate to partake in other cultural spheres so you create your own or adopt cultures of 'outsiders'.
No.13953 KONTRA
>>13952>You are not allowed or adequate to partake in other cultural spheres so you create your own or adopt cultures of 'outsiders'.So true, reminds me of rich Berlin tourists.
No.13954
>>13953Did ignore property rights and broke into the cinema yet?
No.13956 KONTRA
>>13954>property rightsIt's public and I don't plan on defacing it. Maybe it's because I'm not cold and poor like 1UP.
No.13957
>>13956Does the state build hotels in Portugal?
No.13959 KONTRA
>>13952>mimimi society MADE them do it BECAUSE MUH RACISM and MUH CAPITALISM>he a good boi he dindo nuffin!>Free will is an illusion, never punish anyone for anything!Except when it's about "nazis", they should be shot on the spot for their thought-crimes, right?
No.13960
>>13958You should not be sad that your government is trying to generate profits unlike shitmanies government that simply ruins it for everybody.
That said, can I break into my university or local unemployment office? It is public after all. Not sure which law on trespassing should be violated here.
**Daylight or night time or has my argument made you come to your senses and reject this dangerous and unlawful, probably black undertaking?''
No.13961 KONTRA
>>13952And I forgot
>smearing walls is muh culturePathetic and idiotic.
No.13962
>>13959A little honesty would go a long way, don't you think? You would not even want a black neighbor, so what makes you think black people could join German culture? They have to create their own space, it's biology, stupid!
No.13964 KONTRA
>>13962>You would not even want a black neighbor,Assumptions.
However, blacks seem to have a way easier time actually integrating than sandpeople/muslims of any kind. So unless it's some eritrean festival staff then yeah, I'd rather have blacks as neighbors because there is at least a chance they will partake in everyday culture, unless muslims.
No.13965
>>13960>You should not be sad that your government is trying to generate profitsDefinitely feeling disenfranchised and hopeless that this state will continue syphoning off fortunes in a plethora of useless works that will not benefit the public.
>Not sure which law on trespassing should be violated here.I'm not sure which is being violated in my case either. Depends on how charitable you are with the reading. Unlawful entry into public area would be the biggest charge. It's questionable though, there's an argument to be made that the space is vacant and not being used for a period of over 3 years (40ish in this case), putting it out of the scope of the the usual law.
>reject this dangerous and unlawfulSilly. I'll purchase a lock like the one on one of the side doors (double pin) and train lockpicking it. I don't want to potentially damage a window to get in.
No.13966 KONTRA
>>13963>smearing some tag on some public property is the same as early hominid artWhat was it about a little honesty?
No.13967
>>13964>Assumptions.It's true, though. You would just prefer them to Arabs.
No.13968
>>13966Both is huminid art. Maybe you should think more about the concept of property and its history, blud.
No.13969
>>13967What if I told you that I prefer no neighbors at all?
No.13970
>>13965>I'll purchase a lock like the one on one of the side doors (double pin) and train lockpicking itYour criminal energy is concerning.
No.13971 KONTRA
>>13968>huminidlol idiot
And even then think about consent. I doubt some foreign tribesman coming to the cave and painting their ugly-ass shit over our own walls would have been met with glee.
No.13972
>>13969Then you still don't want a black neighbor.
Are you to poor to afford a no-neighbor situation?
No.13973 KONTRA
>>13962What is "joining German culture" even supposed to mean? Cos-playing is a "German" in a little green hat and Lederhosen? They can do that all day for all I care.
Germany was ("was" as in: the opposite of "is") a high-trust society with a culture of law and. Immigrants mostly come from low-trust societies and cultures of honor. Low-trust societies value almends less and will see the destruction of almends as less of a violation of norms. (Example: "Alter schwör was juckt dich ist nicht dein Bushaltestelle" -> continues to destroy bus stop). Cultures of honor do not have norms derived from written law and enforced by an executive and judicative branch of government, but derived from tradition, and enforced by a balance of power between power-brokers, mostly clan-leaders. They place a high value on public displays of violent potential, as a deterrent. ("Alter ich hohl kussengs"). Examples of cultures of honor: historically Scotland and Ireland, mountains of the Apennine Peninsula, currently: the Arab world.
Same as you, these people can either be deported or beaten into shape or they will continue to destroy our society. Obviously, Germans have chosen the latter, which is why we will see more doctors being threatened at ER while they try to treat victims of some publicly escalated conflict between muslim clans, more crime in general, and more destruction of public property, which is where this discussion started.
No.13975
>>13974>because it is so tellingTelling of what? You being illiterate?
No.13976
>>13972>Then you still don't want a black neighbor. If "not wanting a black neighbor" is a subset of "not wanting neighbors" it's not because of your implied racism.
Now tell me, how many black and muslim neighbors do you have?
No.13977 KONTRA
>>13973>Germany was ("was" as in: the opposite of "is") a high-trust society with a culture of lawDo you have at least some statistics to prove that it was better back in the day than today? Or do think your pseudo-anthropological explanations suffice?
No.13978
>>13975How you react to people making negligible mistakes is telling of your personality.
No.13979
>>13976At the moment none, I had a Muslim neighbor in the past and I did not hear anything besides some fucking then and now which I also do hear now with a German neighbor.
You want no neightbors. But you would hate having Muslim or blacks as neighbors because they are Muslim or black. Pretty much a picturebook definition of racism if you ask me.
Tell me now, are you too poor to afford a no-neighbor situation?
No.13980
>>13978>negligible mistakes>negligibleYou're a smug prick acting all smart and high and mighty and think you have made this great zinger with your cave paintings post, combined with the laughing hurensöhne picture to a ridiculing effect. So yeah, if you're too dumb to copy a simple word while trying to act all smart then it's not a negligible mistake.
You simply deserve to be called an idiot because you are one.
No.13981
>>13979>But you would hate having Muslim or blacks as neighbors because they are Muslim or black.Yeah, I don't want muslim neighbors because I have met enough muslims in my life to know that I don't want to live with them, associate with them or have them in my country.
But please, show me where I wrote that I don't want black neighbors.
But what we can put on record is that you have virtually zero experience with these people as neighbors, which is what I expected. Must be nice being rich enough to afford an all-potato neighborhood.
No.13983
>>13981>I have met enough muslims in my lifeWhat makes you think I have not? I did not live in many places so far so the chances are not very big of having a direct neighbor, if you consider the house next to the one I lived in or the street it has been considerably more "muslim" neighbors.
Also how come a poor person is convinced of ordoliberalism?
No.13984 KONTRA
>>13977It is MY truth from MY reality. You have to accept that there are multiple realities and multiple truths :3 Why do you try to marginalize me by demanding statistics? Statistics is a product of white mathematics that overvalues white racist virtues like precision. Demanding statistics is racist and eurocentric :3
I do not have time to discuss decades of research with you. Study on your own if you want to pass the exam. No.13985 KONTRA
>>13984>I do not have time to discuss decades of research with you.I asked to provide statistics not to write me a book chapter.
No.13987
>>13986It's not about being poor or rich. What is important is your relation to the means of production
No.13988 KONTRA
>>13982>It is.No, it is not. At all. But it is very telling how you are trying to play the "only pretending to be retarded" tired old strategy after the fact.
No.13990
>>13985>hurr durr muh statistics muh proofsWhy do you only demand statistics and never provide any yourself? And what statistics? How prevalent murder and rape are in muslim countries?
It's always the same with your kind and your way of arguing.
But if you want to know more you can read on the history of law, important points being the codex hammurapi, germanic and roman law compared to desert (i.e. jewish and muslim) law. Report back with your findings.
No.13993 KONTRA
>>13988What does acknowledging making a minor mistake have to do with playing retarted?
No.13994
>>13990>history of law, important points being the codex hammurapi, germanic and roman law compared to desert (i.e. jewish and muslim) lawCare to elaborate how (theoretical) law and philosophic musings relate to present-day crime?
>and never provide any yourself?You made the claim, lol
No.13995 KONTRA
>>13983>What makes you think I have not?Ok then, how much contact have you had with muslims in your life, be it professional or private? inb4 "I delivered packages to a few"
No.13996 KONTRA
>>13994>(theoretical) law and philosophic musings Practiced law is far from "theoretical and philosophical", but ok, you have no interest in being proven wrong, I get it.
I am not even that Ernst btw.
No.13997
>>13996>Practiced lawIt appeared to me he was referencing codified law I should read.
No.13998
>>13995friends, coworkers, people I went to school with and all sorts of encounters you have with people in the public.
No.14000
Status: greasing up a rich homosexual so he'll pay me drinks
It's a dog eat dog world out here.
No.14001
>>14000Phenomenal GET. I would post another erected penis but the mods are now censoring nudity
or at least male nudity it seems.
No.14003
>>13990- Why don't you want to see Arab as your neighbor?
- See, it started 4000 years ago when czar Hammurabi wrote a codex of laws...
Btw culture of honor is a real thing, here it's peoples of Kavkaz. But don't Arabs in Germany assimilate with time?
No.14004
Went out to the garden. I weeded out some areas. Finished reading Yu Dafu's Sinking and then I fucked around with the text a bit to try and render it into Hungarian and see what kind of a tone I could use. Afterwards I also read from the Han Feizi and marked some more passages.
I went in after I started feeling cold. Worked on translating one of Li Si's speeches from the Shiji. I promptly pasted it into the middle of my developing study and sent it to the supervisor to show progress is being made on my research and I also adjusted my goals to be more realistic, as I'm working on this thing alongside my thesis.
I scanned the Rosengartenlied from the library book I borrowed. I know it's online but those scans are terribly brown and high res so I made my own which is fully black and white and should be more e-reader friendly.
This is another one of those things I'd like to work on. It'd be fun to have a Hungarian rendering of this thing.
My mother and father went out to buy groceries so I finally have earl grey tea and cheese and peppers and salami and the like. It's pretty nice to have a light meal. I feel like I can concentrate better with some toast + auxiliary forces and a coffee than with a big lunch.
They also met with an older relative. I think my great-aunt or whatever. Anyway, she said she wanted to hand our part of the family some stuff. I heard a mirror being mentioned and I was thinking that an older relative giving you a mirror is pretty much like in a novel, only for the actual mirror to be just something that can't be older than 30 years.
"I thought this was going to be like a Horthy checked his coat in it once level heirloom. What is this shit?" and my father told me that a mirror like this would be like 70 euros, so it's actually nice to have it in the entrance.
The other part of the gift was some jewelry, and the rationale on her part for giving it was that she's not giving it to her "Whore of a granddaughter". Which is fair enough I guess. I will probably never learn what happened.
I wasted the entire day in essence because I didn't to the writing practice at all so I will miss the deadline completely. I will focus instead on cramming the vocab and also learning to write the lazy way, which is that I will just imagine writing it in my head as the flashcard asks for pinyin and meaning. And I will work on the grammar some more.
Turns out I also have a doctor's appointment for tomorrow, so the entire "day off" thing's kinda fucked because I'm up way too late and I will be tired as fuck unless I sleep some in the afternoon.
No.14006 KONTRA
>>14005Oh god why. Doesn't he know what nonsense is printed on there?
Also couldn't stop my curiosity and visited that site.
> Blockchain-education through peer methodsI pity you.
No.14007 KONTRA
>>14003>don't Arabs in Germany assimilate with time?No. But Germans assimilate to arabs with time. Young people now do not use articles or prepositions, because that is how Arabs speak German. "You go railway?" has become a perfectly valid German question in only two decades. Because we have millions of Germany-hating little leftist scum who destroy everything German and think themselves intellectually and morally superior for it. You can see one such example on this board.
No.14008
I've lost like 20 IQ points from undersleeping, I'm saying dumb shit at work.
No.14009 KONTRA
>>14007>Young people now do not use articles or prepositionsThat's just how people in NRW talk though, and they already did that before turks.
A better example would be the usage of stuff like wallah, schüüüsch, lan, etc.
No.14010 KONTRA
>>14009There are no people in NRW.
No.14011 KONTRA
>>14003>But don't Arabs in Germany assimilate with time?Not all of course, but many do. They keep part of their culture like the style of weddings
I already know what the schizo will say and such, usually they are sort of bilingual, especially when the parents are not integrated well I's say. But on the other hand they go to work, buy the house in the suburbs if they can, send their kids to school and want them to have it better, go to university etc.
Many first-generation immigrants have problems with that, obviously and especially if they are not going through education. But you know the same is true for Russians here I'd say.
Culture plays a role, certainly but socio-economic standing is stronger. That is why the further you go up the generations the less trouble many of them have and the better integrated they are. This does not mean that people still hate them all, like the schizo. He will just display them as not capable of speaking German. Of course, the kids of Syrian refugees or Iraqis growing up here in the last 10 years won't be super good at German in many cases.
The question of honor is a thing, yeah, but to think that honor did not play a role in Germany is plain bullshit, not everything has to be codified in law to be a phenomenon. I would say that nazis and right wingers have a thing for hnor as well. Honor is a patriarchial and traditionalist category that neatly fits with most conservatisms. It plays less a role these days. But then again German people kill their girlfriend or wife as well if they leave them or have a lover.
No.14012 KONTRA
>>14011The whataboutism is strong with this one.
I would probably agree on the socio-economic thing, but the problem is that 90% of muslim immigrants are the bottom rung of society that their home country is glad to get rid of, i.e. the overlap is so big that it doesn't really matter. And I personally know people with a PhD education who still go full retard if you just so much insinuate their dumb religion is dumb.
Haven't ever had that with christians (the ones who take it seriously enough to react will just turn the other cheek and try to talk you into Jesus).
In my opinion, "integration without assimilation" is a completely wrong approach. Assimilation is the natural end state of successful integration. People can't live between two worlds, no matter what rootless agitators might claim. See also: Almancis, very sad existence.
The root of the problem was certainly how the first gen of guest workers was treated, which was probably the wrongest way to go about it.
I would like to say people in the 20th century were pretty shortsighted, especially between the 50s and 70s, but we today have our own package to carry, but those structures allowed for parallel communities to grow in the first place, and today we have people like you being all apologetic about people not only not attempting to integrate, but simply refusing to adopt the ways of their host country so it can one day become the home country of their children. Sure, they might not have made the problem, but they're not doing anything to better themselves and to rectify any lapse of the past, and neither does our government. Having the great leader Erdowahn telling them to never surrender doesn't help either. In fact, the actual smart people, who can actually contribute something will do their best to NOT associate with those people. A guy I know once explained to me that the people who came here decades ago still have the old country from decades ago in their heads, like a german in Argentina, and things have changed, so he didn't want to have anything to do with them. He was not born in Germany, yet spoke proper german. And that's probably the kind of person you are talking about, but sadly they're rare.
You being in denial about them playing a part in the degeneration of society does not change anything about it. You can see it too, I know that, but you won't accept or admit it because it completely contradicts your worldview that you deem the only correct one. I am not saying it's their fault because they are that evil or something, but it's a structural thing facilitated by the government, like a dog that was never properly trained and keeps shitting in the house.
No.14013 KONTRA
>>14012>know people with a PhD education who still go full retard if you just so much insinuate their dumb religion is dumCulture of honor, external locus of control, read Nicolai Sennels.
No.14014
>>14012>apologeticYou confuse explanations and reasons with an apology. I don't feel like being apologetic for the conservatisms of non-whites as well. There is also no contradiction when conservative turks for example are experiencing racism and I think that is wrong. I can simply think that both the racism and the turk's conservatism are wrong.
>degeneration of societyThe thing is that I don't use this category at all to make sense of reality. Deshalb sima geschiedne Leut.
Your imagined German ethnostate is a fairy tale to make you feel better. If everybody was just as dutyful as you for the greater good of Germany there would be milk and honey. Yadda Yadda.
No.14015 KONTRA
>>14014>Your imagined German ethnostate is a fairy tale to make you feel better. If everybody was just as dutyful as you for the greater good of Germany there would be milk and honey. Yadda Yadda.There are more foreigners in Germany than just muslims, you know? And for some reason they don't seem to have as much of a problem.
But you're saying, then, that the trajectory we are on is a good one? That things will get better the more muslims live here? Or are you simply wanting to experience a lowered standard of living in order to atone for being born into the Tätervolk? Or do you conversely think you can gain something from this development?
No.14016 KONTRA
>>14014>I'm a peace of shit but it has no consequences because of shit because everything's meaningless and just a narrativeWeird how only leftshits from wealthy countries who never worked a day in their live share your worldview.
No.14017
>>13992No, Esports is not an option.
Now we need a German who will serve as Prometheus and tell us what "tea blogposting" is.
No.14018 KONTRA
>>14015>thinks muslims are responsible for the economy and standard of livingMost of these people work a job just like you. Some want to work but are not allowed to (Arbeitserlaubnis missing as refugee)
That you are poor is a result of the economic principle as such. Not some people who came to Germany because they are poor in their country due to the same economic principle. The labor market is kinda global, you know.
But that is not a problem to you, that you compete with workers around the world for somebody to pay you for your labor. No, the problem is MUDSLIMES.
Do you think the people you work for care about you beyond being deebly concerned and sad that they have to lay you off once your labor is not useful (i.e. profitable) for them anymore? German or not. That is why the nation or ethnicity is such a dumb category, it will disguise this conflict of interest.
No.14019
>>14018>thinks muslims are responsible for the economy and standard of livingThat's not what I said, now answer the questions.
No.14021 KONTRA
>>14019Ach Haldi.
I make an exception for you.
>But you're saying, then, that the trajectory we are on is a good one? What "trajectory" exactly? No, I don't think that capitalism, the further divide between rich and poor, climate change and nationalism as a solution is a trajectory worth pursuing.
>That things will get better the more muslims live here? No, lol. It's so comical what you think of me as a person and my opinions.
>Or are you simply wanting to experience a lowered standard of living in order to atone for being born into the Tätervolk? Whatever lowered standard might mean here. I want the basic amenities we have archived so far to stay intact: food, shelter, medical support, education, and a certain degree of mobility.
Regarding atonement: that is not how I think hence it's a no I guess.
>Or do you conversely think you can gain something from this development?No, what should I gain from this?
I don't think identity politics should be at the forefront of political struggle whether it is coming from the left or right. Try to memorize this for once. Now identity as a category is important nonetheless because so many people rely on it so deeply. At the moment it is handle incorrectly and misused by so many people further accelerating the stupid "trajectory" we are on. You are part of that with your thinking just as some muslims are. But again my mesh is different from yours and I can both group you and muslims and differentiate them along other lines. A "wealth" of concepts allows me to do so I guess. Similarities and differences. Maybe then you can grasp reality beyond simple binaries. Connecting and shifting.
No.14022
>>14020This also implied an understanding of states and their economies being in competition. Or do you think nation-states and their economies are not in competition over GDP / further accumulating wealth, predominantly measured in money?
No.14023
>>14022Very abrasive post! Do you think competition between states creates a global labor market? Do you work in one? You could, there are certain industries that are an almost truly global labor market. It'd be unlikely that low income Germoids would be in one though, maybe you just used a combination of words you don't really understand :DDD
No.14024
>>14023>Do you work in one?I applied abroad, so potentially, yes :DDD
>Do you think competition between states creates a global labor marketStates (and capital) make use of a global labor market if it suits their interests I'd say.
No.14025 KONTRA
>>14021> I want the basic amenities we have archived so far to stay intact: food, shelter, medical support, education, and a certain degree of mobility. ...but all of that is crumbling, and it's not some "old good new bad" shit, it is palpable.
Food is produced by bigger and less companies, shelter is getting more expensive, medical support is getting worse (insurance greed and genius Klabauterbach ideas like decreasing the number of hospitals, etc.), education is getting worse and worse (and measurably so), mobility is individual unless you live in a big city. And everything is only getting worse, and while muslims are certainly not responsible for it, they are absolutely a contributing factor. Maybe even just a symptom. They are perfect consoomer cattle, after all. Just what supranational capitalists can wish for. Nationality and tradition are important for the proles, not the bougies.
Nevertheless, however attached to some "fairy tale" I am, your denial of reality is far bigger than mine could ever be. But what do I know, I just think in binaries, unlike you, oh enlightened very intelligent human being!
No.14026 KONTRA
>>14025concentration-processes are a macro-economical necessity and not limited to "capitalism" or market-economies.
Medical support is getting worse because we are paying immense sums for very few very expensive treatment options, often for very old people or very sick people AND because the average age of the population is increasing AND because medicine as a field lacks behind in productivity increases. The last point applies to all low-productivity sectors in developed economies, since low-productivity jobs see similar labor-cost increases as the economy as a whole. Another example: building sector. We still put brick on brick like we did decades ago, then we wonder why building is so expensive. Ridiculous.
The answer to this problem is not cheaper labor from third-world countries, but increased productivity by improved methods and by substituting labor for capital.
The contribution of muslims to the demise of western societies is in part, but not only, due to the following:
a) disproportionate unemployment. These people are averse to secular education, in particular by kuffar teachers, even more so by female kuffar teachers. They do not "get" meritocracy. In their societies of origin, jobs are awarded to strengthen family ties or for sheer bribery. Their average IQ is closer to that of a horde of chimps than to that of educated western societies, partially due to millenia of inbreeding.
b) cost of crime, direct and indirect. They don't "get" our courts, either, by the way. The court translators regular smooth over what these people say in court. They often insult their own lawyers and view the trial as a farce that has been set up against them. Reasoning: the trial is conducted by the out-group, our enemy, I only did what is right by defending my honor/my families honor/the ummahs honor/ because my victim was too weak. Whatever I did is my victims fault, not my fault. These kuffar, even my own lawyer, are here to set me up and cheat me, the only thing I can do to protect my honor is to lash out towards them in every possible way.
c) They, especially their women, have bad health due to spectacularly unhealthy diets and a lack of exercise. Aisha at 45 has the knees of an 80-year old due to being fat and not moving. Women not allowed outside the house, exercise haram for women. Add in incest.
No.14027
This is so draining.
Please refrain from this intelligent and you think u so smart bullshit. I cringe every time. This is not more than two people sitting on top of the bell curve arguing. At least that is how I perceive it.
No.14028
Topics to increase posting:
1) Nuclear energy, green energy, gasoline prices.
2) Muslim migrants, graffiti.
3) RAF, farmer protests, Green party.
4) Linguistic prescriptivism
How else can we milk our postcows?
No.14029 KONTRA
>>14027You are aware of the somewhat paradoxical nature of your post, right?
No.14032 KONTRA
>>14029Personally, I found it pretty ironic.
No.14033
>>14030>>14031Good.
Also: women, dating, PUA.
Let's try it.
Last time there were debates about 80/20 rule. Here is data in the point:
https://www.gazeta.ru/science/news/2023/02/06/19671949.shtml> Scientists at Aarhus University have found that the number of young men not having sex is on the rise, calling it an under-addressed health problem. The work was published in The Journal of Bioethics.> The authors report that between 2000-2002 and 2016-2018, the proportion of men aged 18 to 24 who reported no sexual activity in the past year increased from about 19% to 31%. However, this trend did not apply to women. A similar picture was confirmed in other studies.> At the same time, the proportion of men who report a large number of sexual partners is also growing. Thus, as of 2002, the most sexually active 5% of American heterosexual men had 38 partners, in 2012 this number became 50. During this period, no changes were found in the number of sexual partners for heterosexual women.> “Just 5% accounts for half of the world’s heterosexual sexual intercourse. The distribution of sexual partners for both men and women is as unequal as the distribution of wealth in countries with the greatest economic inequality. This sexual inaccessibility may pose a public health problem. Sexual activity, or rather the lack thereof, can negatively affect both a person’s mental and physical health,” the scientists noted.> This picture of sexual loneliness is not unique to the United States. For example, in Finland, the number of men having difficulty finding a partner doubled from 1992 to 2015.Why is this problem being ignored by society? How can it be solved?
No.14034 KONTRA
>>14033I have another one
>misunderstanding the Pareto principleRÉÉÉEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
No.14035
>>14033I'll byte, but it will be boring.
>Why is this problem being ignored by society?From societie's perspective, there is no problem. The problem to be solved is frustrated incels: how do we make it so that they are no longer frustrated.
>How can it be solved?(female) German biologist Meike Stoverock suggested porn, prostitution, sex robots and teaching boys in kindergarden that only the prince gets the princess and everyone else gets fuckall.
I think this is pretty much the consensus at this point.
No.14036
>>14035This cynical logic would work in Russia, but German welfare mommy state society is very sensitive to disadvantaged people. Why are incels an exception with "it's your problems, fuck you" attitude to them?
> prostitutesAs I understand, in Germany they are still legal, but it's modern consensus that this is unethical and equal to "human trafficking"; see "Swedish model".
Also involuntary celibate is not only about lack of sex, but also about lack of meaningful relationships.
No.14038
>>14033Just like the existence of a so called middle class, 1:1 relationship ratio, and majority of men procreating at all was merely a historical anomaly of the post-industrial period.
Things are just returning to normal equilibrium: most men don't have sex, either become monks (schizos), die in war (in our case just self destruct), or join the navy (become gay).
Nature is healing.
Under communism, ratio will be even more extreme, as the last of the economic incentives for monogamous relationships get aufhabened.
No.14040
>>14036>German welfare mommy state society is very sensitive to disadvantaged peopleNot if they are white men.
No.14041 KONTRA
>>14038This. It's unraveling at record-pace. There is an increasing number of "poly-amurouse relationships"
Chad-harems without a main-dish and "open relationships"
Chad-harems with a main-dishBut when men self-destruct, they will take industrialized society with them. The only communism there will be is Ur-communism.
We pretend that women contribute, but mostly, they are tokens who only sit there, don't do actual work, just chat with each other and tell jokes, make intrigues against the men who keep there trap shut and provide solutions. It's tolerated because they are women.
No.14042
We should discuss IQ next but I cannot participate because I'm not an insecure loser who obsesses over it 😔. Is anybody willing to jump in for me? Now it is time to give real meaning to solidarity.
No.14043
>>14042>HEY GUISE LOOK AT ME I AM SO SMART! AND THEREFORE I DON'T DISCUSS IQ! BECAUSE I AM SO INCREDIBLY SMART!Next we should discuss self-perception vs. reality and its role in fart-huffing behavior.
No.14044 KONTRA
>>14043Reminds me of Alice Braithwaite Goodyshoes. (Susanne Klickerklacker in German)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-W5CHa1vkwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn08MrTJQvsHumor makes it bearable.
No.14045
Today I went to the doctor. It took longer than I expected, because I had like 3 pensioners before me who all needed blood drawn and it took 20-25 minutes for each of them to find a suitable vein.
I felt really fucking tired after receiving treatment so when I got home I fell asleep after lunch and some reading in the garden.
My packages from China are in the country, because the fascist bastards at the toll office decided to charge me for them some extra. But the books themselves got here remarkably fast! Which is a good thing. Even if I just wasted some of the food money on it I just received.
I also found a "Mittelhochdeutsches Taschenwörterbuch" for sale and I really wanted to get it but I will restrain my soul's desire for more material goods. (Which is why I will check it out from the library just to flip through it.)
I still feel like I have had some divine spark extinguished and I need to regain it somehow.
No.14047
>>14046Is that so? Tell a joke.
No.14048
>>14038It's the opposite. Monogamy existed for thousands of years while sexual revolution (as well as sexual inequality) came to being the same time as post-industrial society. On east Islam allowed polygamy but it's still no more than four wives for one man.
>>14039Today's bickering is not "linguistic prescriptivism", wait your turn.
>>14040Whites are less likely to be incels than minorities. For ricecels or carrycels it's much harder. Once I was told by a girl: "Yes, I have 100 matches, but half of them are hachiks anyway".
No.14049
>>14048>Whites are less likely to be incels than minorities.What about short men? I mean things like "uhm, yeah, if you were just 10cm taller...".
No.14051
>>14050Mirrors are not particularly funny. I am starting to suspect you are lying.
No.14053
>>14052>blood boilerHuh? This is pretty hilarious.
No.14054 KONTRA
>>14052The female orgasm is a suffragette myth.
No.14056 KONTRA
>>14055Actually most Hydraulic societies were heavily redistributist. Polanyi and Wittfogel wrote about this.
Marxism-Leninism is the modern expression of the Eurasian spirit.
No.14057 KONTRA
Yesterday when I was in the library I ran English paragraphs for my project proposal through chatgpt prompting for grammar and style. Somebody a row in front of me was probably doing the same copying text from a document and running it through chatgpt
It's quite handy to do so I have to admit. It probably works like asking a native with average text knowledge to do the same task.
No.14058
>>14056Monarchies are also heavily redistributist.
Capitalism is heavily redistributist.
Silly hun.
No.14059
>>14057Give a human chatgp, and it will proofread for a day.
Teach a human english, and it will never have to proofread anymore.
No.14060
>>14048> Monogamy existed for thousands of yearsnot rly. maybe since agriculture, in judeo-christian civilizations
even then, a cursory glance at the human genetic code would reveal than majority of males historically never procreated.
you think hypergamy is bad, try polygamy
No.14061
>>14060>not rly. maybe since agricultureAgriculture has existed for thousands of years, so you directly agreed with him.
Also, old Temüüdschin was probably a special case. What percentage of mongolian men can trace their lineage back to him? At least 25?
No.14063
>>14059>Teach a human english, and it will never have to proofread anymore.I'm not a native so better safe than sorry.
Almost all responses were like this
>Your sentence is grammatically correct, but for a bit more style, you might consider>Your sentence is clear and grammatically correct. For a slight refinement in style, you might consider>Your statement is clear, but for a slight refinement and improved flow, you might considerAnd yes, they come in handy, to make the English a bit more "native sounding".
No.14064
>>14061Well I assumed that "thousands of years" was used as a hyperbole, in the meaning of "myriad" where it just means "a lot" and not the actual etymological number.
Because "thousands of years" is barely anything in the history of our species, so it'd make for a very weak argument for the supposed "normality" of our recent social order, to pick such a tiny slice of an already highly anomalous period of human history.
No.14065
>>14063I still don't see how this can't be alleviated by reading more english literature.
Do you think your german style of writing comes from nothing?
And obviously it also depends on what the AI was trained on in the first place. If it was trained on english language online sources I'd rather not use any of it, lest you sound like some clickbait online "journalist".
Also, if you don't plan on actually discussing your oevre with actual native speakers, nobody will care anyway, so why bother? Better spend your time on improving your reasoning and content-related aspects of the thesis.
No.14069
>>14065>I still don't see how this can't be alleviated by reading more english literature.Sure, but I won't read a pile of English literature just to bolster the style of the proposal so it sounds more like a native speaker. That is something for when I will actually know I will go abroad.
>And obviously it also depends on what the AI was trained on in the first placeI think I can judge if I like the suggestions or not. What the AI has been trained on is not relevant in that regard. I did not blindly change everything the AI had suggested. I'm quite good at passive English and have a feeling for what is adequate.
>Better spend your time on improving your reasoning and content-related aspects of the thesis.I spent most of my time doing this. It's just a polishing operation that took an hour or so.
>if you don't plan on actually discussing your oevre with actual native speakerNative speakers will read it, hence I'm doing the checks. I could also talk to somebody at my university who is fluent in English but I reckon chatgpt is fine for orthography, grammar and style, at least for this kind of document. It's really about getting some simple suggestions on enhancing readability by cutting down on unnecessary constructions for example or exchanging a word here and there that was missing in my active vocabulary but aids in the precision of what I wanted to bring across anyway.
No.14070
>>14064> to pick such a tiny slice of an already highly anomalous period of human history.Define "highly anomalous". Such a premise only works under the assumption that human development is linear. If we instead assume an exponential development starting from near 0, then it's obvious that there would be a long time where basically fuckall would happen with a lot of stuff then happening in a very short time.
No.14071
>>14070You would still have to pick a point to designate as "the normal state of things"
No.14072
>>14071And which point would that be?
No.14073
>>14060> maybe since agricultureWas it different before agriculture? Source?
Anyway, you say that thousands of years are a short period, but sexual revolution is just a few decades old. And it was built on lies. See:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead> Her reports detailing the attitudes towards sex in South Pacific and Southeast Asian traditional cultures influenced the 1960s sexual revolution> Margaret Mead showed that Samoan girls do not observe virginity, easily enter into premarital sexual relations, society is extremely tolerant of this, and the people of Samoa, as a result, live in harmony and happiness. Unlike repressive America. Consequently, the type of cultural behavior of young American women is not at all a natural state of affairs, but is an externally imposed restriction and must be abolished.> In reality, as it suddenly turned out, in Samoa there was a society where losing virginity before marriage was considered a severe taboo, much more than in the Puritan communities of Europe. They simply killed for this.> 50 years have passed and Mead's "research" has been thrown into the trash. Because the book did its job. And the fact that a stupid scumbag, a liar and a scum for many decades swaggered over real scientists, publicly insulted them and “kicked them out of the profession” is the cost of production.> The log was removed softly. After death, she was presented as a sweet simpleton who was “jokingly misinformed by girls from high Samoan society.” Like, the girlfriends were playing a prank. No.14075
>>14071Dude, it's you who started talking about "normal equilibrium". And now you demand others to define normalcy.
Moreover, your initial argument was about 1:1 ratio being artifact of post-industrial society, let's note that you're shifting the goal to "it's just a few thousands years old".
No.14076 KONTRA
>>14073The discussion of her Samoa book in the wikipedia article reads quite differently.
No.14077 KONTRA
Yes write to me 3am saying how much you miss me and treat me as if we’ve never met when I ask you if your day was good the day after.
Shit I’m broken down. I’m just tired with this fucking life. That was a shitty move from her and I’m in a shitty mood. I miss her and now we got to the phase where she treats me like shit.
No.14078
Satan is the author of confusion
No.14079
>>14075I proposed normality to be defined as the state in which the species spent the most time, he proposed a weird logarithmic approach. Both claims to normality need to be justified, but I find mine to be more common sensical.
Monogamy has been around as a practice for thousands of years, but not everywhere in the world, and not even everywhere in even the societies that had it. Existing is not the same as being pervasive. Furthermore, monogamy and 1:1 relationship ratio is not the same thing: You can have monogamous relationships, but still not every male in society gets to BREED. For example, mongamy can be serial, where one person has 1 partner AT A TIME. Besides, in almost all societies there's a distinction between a wife, and concubine, the latter technically aren't entitled to any claims, because there was no marriage contract / ceremony.
Most men historically didn't BREED, simple as.
>>14061>Also, old Temüüdschin was probably a special caseworth noting that polygamy was normal practice in turkic societies for "thousands of years", how many wives you had depended on your wealth. Up to 7 wives was allowed. Which means there was a shitload of men who didn't have wives. Probably died in raids and tribal conflicts and shit.
No.14080 KONTRA
>>14077Advice: consider blocking her. There is very little chance of anything good coming out of this. It was good while it lasted, but it is over now. Try to learn from the experience. Try to find someone else soon.
No.14081
>>14077Still having contact usually does nothing good with your mood. I'm puzzled why so many people do it nonetheless.
No.14082 KONTRA
>>14028>farmer protestsFarmers dumped manure and wood onto a federal highway and people crashed into it. They willingly endangered people's lives. They are lucky nobody died and yet applauded the damage to private property. Fucking agrarian terrorists. The taxpayer will be debited with the lawsuits.
No.14083 KONTRA
>>14082Can't tell if ironic. In general, your sentiment is obviously correct, but it seems "the taxpayer" sides with the farmers.
A-OK: blocking motorways with wood and manure, causing potentially accidents, as long as it is to ensure the income of at a ~1% minority who, on average, makes over 100k a year.
Not A-OK: blocking traffic in a city for a few minutes to protest against the burning of fossil fuel and the resulting catastrophic climate change.
People can relate to short-term egotism and identify themselves with farmers. Beautiful society we have there, luckily, it won't last much longer.
No.14084
>>14083>potentially accidentsThey caused accidents and people were injured. Could have easily killed somebody I guess.
No.14085 KONTRA
>>14083Ok: Outrage by people who produce the food the people in Not Ok eat
Not Ok: Richkid and neet attention whores who don't actually do anything being the attention whores they are
Yet you still act like people actually oppose their cause and not their hypocrisy.
No.14087
>>14084>could have killed someoneThen the green party would be to blame. The fat pig Ricarda Lang is to blame, obviously. If someone I know dies in an accident, I'll take revenge and hang her!
No.14088 KONTRA
>>14086>reddit link>whataboutismChecks out
If the climate idiots weren't such idiots they would try and get some kind of alliance with the farmers. Climate is an important factor in farming, after all, isn't it? But that would mean they'd have to actually associate with those evil, dirty nazi rednecks. And it would mean less attention for the attention whores, which would be deadly for them.
No.14089
Fucking H-ampel farmers. How stupid of an imbecile do you have to be to just loiter a high-speed road with obstacles in the night? What if a bus with children from a Klassenfahrt would have crashed into the piles? Just so that they can cash in more money profits into their fat farmer pockets. They don't even produce food but mainly animal food and for export reasons, they sell food grown on German soil to foreigners. Farmers jeopardize German autarky with their greedy money-stained fingers. Money does not stink but farmer's business activities do, worse than a pajeet and people in the countryside even like that smell, uncivilized degenerates ruin it for everybody.
No.14090
My prayers and solidarit goes to the cleaners who have to wipe the street of the farmers mess. Farmers like to smear their shit on public roads but leave it for poor people to clean it up. Disgusting pigs, they have been masted by the German government all the time and now that they have to slim down they act up. Don't they know that sliming down and lean business is healthy for the economy? I guess you can expect nothing intelligent from these inbreed German Anatolians.
No.14091
>>14089>Just so that they can cash in more money profits into their fat farmer pocketsMy teacher would have been proud of my rhetorical strength :DDD this alliteration is making Goethe look like an amateur
No.14092 KONTRA
>>14088>whataboutism>reddit link10/10 for adressing the point.
Farmer opened a thread on r/finance, complaining about his poverty.
To sum up the post: 2 million on the balance sheet, 164k after-tax profits.
Then protesting because you will lose <3k a year in tax-credits. This is your typical farmer.
Their chief-complained is that they think they are very special (you, too, think they are very special) and should be given preferential treatment. Tax-credits, subventions, no regulations, free reign with everything. Spread as much manure as they want, when they want, for example, nitrate values in drinking water be fucked. That's what all those assholes with a few hectares and hundreds of pigs want.
If faremrs were given a free reign, they'd ruin the entire country in years for profit.
>if the climate idiots>mimimi the climate idiotsBlocked intersections in cities. Did not endanger traffic by spreading manure on the autobahn
>Climate is an important factor in farming, after all, isn't it?Stop making dishonest arguments by pretending you give a fuck.
No.14094 KONTRA
>>14090>shitat least it's not glue, right?
No.14095 KONTRA
>>14092I talked about richkid climate idiots, I never said anything about whether (some) farmers are turbocapitalists or not, but that was not the point. And some post on reddit is hardly proof for anything. I only read the title anyway because it told me thst comments had been deleted, and I refuse to allow all scripts to see what some asshole on reddit writes.
But you being the dishonest prick you are of course had to go all in with, yes, whataboutism.
>b-but muh rich farmers!!!1The thing people like you don't understand is that you are only playing into the hands of the big companies. Provided the link you posted is indeed legit, these kind of farmers are not the majority, but they will rise in share when the smaller ones are dying, and then everything will be consolidated into a few large conglomerates. And you are supporting that. And why? I don't know, hatred for life maybe.
No.14099
>>14095>and then everything will be consolidated into a few large conglomerates.Let me guess, the AFD will revert capitalism and not lick the floor clean with their tongues to roll out a red carpet for entrepreneurs who produce wealth for this country. Why are people like you allowed to vote, you don't know what is good for capital and thus the country.
No.14136
>>14105Imagine being such a petty asshole that you jump to the new thread to carry on with your bullshit instead of using the perfectly fine old thread.
You should become a gluer, you have that certain attention whoring attitude.
Didn't read your post btw.