>>16378>>16380I am Confucius.
While your post hasn't much outside of emotional information, I feel like you wanna point towards something. Since your posts lack factual information, all I can do is some guess work.
Do we have the same definition and separation of "religious" and "spiritual"?
e.g. ~"religion" is the act of forcing your believe system upon the next generation via laws, propaganda, force and indoctrination from childbirth on - often symbolized by either cutting off parts of reproductive organs, LARPing a drowning or something of that sort at very early stages of ones life.
> You either follow us, or we kill you - or even worse, cut your reproductive organs off completely.Granted, the human is naive and not everyone trapped in a religious believe system is the devil himself - but they are still stupid for still following and enabling it.
Aren't we, as scientific community, even in agreement that the "dark ages", where religious power was at it's greatest, was a time where humanity barely progressed, if not even degenerated? - Pointing towards that with the Galileo habbening. (And we are pretty certain today, that Galileo was by far not the first. Not even by a millenia.)
Assuming todays religious people are any different from those in history is nothing but wishful thinking. Still power hungry idiots, that wouldn't be able to survive without a social community supporting their needs.
~"spiritual", on the other hand, I would define as something more of an intrinsic value to some/all humans. There is a lot out there which we cannot explain. Doesn't matter if we look into science or fantasy. Maybe there is something beyond our senses (most certainly; our senses are super limited and fine tuned to our earthly habitat). Maybe there is not. A single divine being? Multiple spirits? One love? One consciousness web everyone is connected to? Everyone is free to believe, what they assume to be the most likely reality.
Not sure if "intrinsic" is the right label/word for this, but I would categorize this as something
~"mainly originating and/or confirmed by ones self" -> spiritual
~"mainly top->down, enforced by orga" -> religious
there certainly is some overlap - especially if you are born in a religious surrounding - but I would argue it's caused by the general stupidity of humanity and the naive assumption that your surrounding, which raised you, only wants the best for you.
srsly, I do not get religious people. just read your fucking "holy" text. do you believe in slavery? dragons? [...] It's simply insane people still argue something like that is "moral" or "real" in our current age. And don't you dare start with "but I only like lines xx to yy from the holy text." - don't fucking call the whole text 'holy' in that case.Flat-earthers, just like religious people, don't want to see the world for what it actual is. They prefer to live in their own fantasy and ignore any logic and reason. (Or am I wrong here?)
>>16381actually good point. The human is fragile.
> the void in their soulswhy not fill it with the urge to conquer space? or create the ultimate A.I. sex-bot?
taking away religion without something to replace it could be even worse, for sure.