I really long for a place where I can go to read a book, speak with interesting people, just chill and spend my evenings. At home I always think of things I have to do, like cleaning the dishes or fixing broken stuff. Also its kind of lonely.I am fantasi


Subject	Kontra
Comment
Spoiler Image	Spoiler Image
File
Password	(For file deletion.)

Places to hangout at Ernst 03.12.23 08:55:53 No.10916

travellers_club.jpeg (587.01 KB, 1920x1440)

I really long for a place where I can go to read a book, speak with interesting people, just chill and spend my evenings. At home I always think of things I have to do, like cleaning the dishes or fixing broken stuff. Also its kind of lonely.
I am fantasizing about gentlemens clubs as they are portrayed by Jules Verne and others from that time, it would be amazing to have a club where only a selected group of people can go and meet, have nice furniture and lots of books and newspapers and so on. Unfortunately I don't think they would be as nice today, probably attracts arrogant douches only and also I probably wouldn't get into one even if I moved to London.
I heard that hackerspaces are nice for this in many places, but I have been to the local one a couple of times and it is merely okay. Most people go there to use a tool and then go back home immediately without chatting with anyone. The ones who like to talk are not my cup of tea, one can't stop talking about some political bs all the time and some dumb crypto investments like NFTS. Then there are two teenagers who I have helped with a little project once, they are friendly and I like talking to them, but most of the time I don't learn a lot during our conversations myself.
My current favorite place is at work, where we have a small "social room" with sofas and coffee machine and a bookshelf. I often go there for breaks to read, but staying there after work feels weird.

Does Ernst have such places? Or does he not even desire it? For me this feeling is very strong, I would be happy to move somewhere else if I knew that there was such a hangout place. I even considered starting a club myself, renting a small place, getting nice furniture etc but there would probably be nobody to join it.

Ernst 03.12.23 10:08:08 No.10917

>Does Ernst have such places?

Nope, I never felt like I belonged anywhere to be honest.

Ernst 03.12.23 10:10:05 No.10918

>>10916
>I really long for a place where I can go to read a book, speak with interesting people, just chill and spend my evenings.
To clarify: Does all of that have to happen in the same place?

Ernst 03.12.23 10:30:35 No.10919

>>10917
Do you feel like you need it, or are you fine with spending your time at home?
>>10918
Ideally I think yes, it should be one place for all. Otherwise you have to decide on what you want to do before going there.
But the intention of this thread was less to find a solution for my particular needs, and instead to discuss where Ernst likes to be in his spare time. Maybe some here like to go into cafes to read, others have a garden or spend their evenings with friends in a pub. Having habits like these can have a huge impact on quality of life, so I thought it might be interesting to discuss different ideas.

Ernst 03.12.23 11:51:11 No.10926

11-8-768x513-1.jpg (81.89 KB, 768x513)

Sometimes I feel like I should be going to cafés more often just to hang out and read, or even work, but I haven't managed to so far. Usually I just end up going either to the library for work or somewhere outside to read when the weather is good.
The last few months before leaving for China I would go to a pub with a friend every monday though to drink a couple beers and play billiard, put some songs on the jukebox. Was pretty cozy, the two old bartender women started to recognize and greet us. I was a bit more distant, but my friend went there more often and chatted with them and other regulars (mostly older workers) quite a bit.
I miss it now since there don't seem to be many casual pubs like this in China, it's mostly chain breweries or upscale bars.

Ernst 03.12.23 13:01:21 No.10930

>>10919
>Do you feel like you need it, or are you fine with spending your time at home?
I'm mostly okay spending time at home, but I would maybe attend a hackerspace if there was one near me.

I think what you're describing here is friends and a place to hang out, which is very understandable. and I think was the norm through most of human history. We are told there is a male loneliness epidemic, so maybe these things will somehow be revived.

Ernst 04.12.23 15:56:25 No.10986

other_art_studio_photo.jpg (47.01 KB, 551x350)

>>10919
>where Ernst likes to be in his spare time.
Outside. A long walk with music and podcasts is preferable to sitting still. And obviously this is an ideal solitary activity. The only social interaction required is a brief nod now and then. When I was in Florida, I was a few miles from the beach. Would walk there regularly, and immediately turn and walk back. Couldn't imagine putting down a blanket and just sitting there.

Would I like a social club of some sort? Not really. The closest I have ever experienced to a relaxing place was back at university. They had two main libraries- one crowded and bright, the other empty and dark. Loved the latter. Five floors, numerous hidden nooks. Find a spot to sit, usually next to a window, and just read or sketch. Although there were other students there, they were few and far between and no interaction was expected. If there were a similar place nearby, I imagine I would go now and then. I have a local library in easy walking distance, but it's too small.

A community art studio might be nice. A place where I could do pic related and not have to clean up. They must exist, but I'm too lazy and introverted to look into it.

Ernst 08.01.24 12:55:14 No.12201

Did you ever consider becoming a freemason/Freilaurer? Loge houses always look nice from the outside. And surely you would also meet interesting people there.
I can't speak from experience though.

Ernst 08.01.24 18:22:53 No.12204 KONTRA

>>12201
>Did you ever consider becoming a freemason/Freilaurer?
Yes, but kind of only on the same superficial level as I considered joining a church, the military, the sino-hungarian friendship association or the communist party.

Ernst 09.01.24 18:53:10 No.12256 KONTRA

Homer_being_sworn_in.jpeg (32 KB, 376x265)

>>12201
>Did you ever consider becoming a freemason
At the bottom of my brother's descent into conspiracy and psychosis, he believed freemasons were trying to kill our family. Naturally, this precludes me from ever joining. Imagine the awkward holiday dinners...

Ernst 12.01.24 08:52:10 No.12342

anzu gähnend.gif (257.24 KB, 540x302)

>>12201
> Did you ever consider becoming a freemason/Freilaurer?
Did talk to a loge about how far you can bend the joining requirements. Apparently, designating "the internet" as your holy scripture isn't allowed. But that answer "came from above"/was previously decided. The person I initially talked to wasn't sure about it, but thought might be theoretical possible depending on how you interpret it.
This ~"you gotta believe in a deity"-guideline is something bothering me; I believe an agnostic view should be welcomed. Don't wanna bend/mask my believes just to join some fringe old dicks club.
Of course, since you have to be a functional member of society and follow local laws to join, my neet ass never actually considered and/or was considered.
I'm just too far ahead. I'll be the one laughing, when they change their rules because there are pretty much only neets and robots/A.I. left.

Ernst 13.01.24 11:13:33 No.12380

>>12342
>Apparently, designating "the internet" as your holy scripture isn't allowed
That wouldn't have made any sense at all, I am surprised they even had to think about it. Almost anything can be found within the depths of the internet, and if its not there yet you can upload it yourself. So having the internet as a holy scripture is not much different from having your internal monologue as a holy scripture, except there is more insane and selfcontradicting stuff on the internet.
>I believe an agnostic view should be welcomed.
You can be agnostic theist.
How was your interaction with them like though? Did the guy you talk to seem more or less normal? Do you know how the process of deciding about you went, do they have some official protocol for that? I have never had real life contact with freemasons, it would be interesting to hear what they are like.

Ernst 13.01.24 11:59:13 No.12381

>>12380
> So having the internet as a holy scripture is not much different from having your internal monologue as a holy scripture, except there is more insane and selfcontradicting stuff on the internet.
Pretty much that was actually the reasoning I've came up with.
Just that I've wanted to argue to interpret this ~"one consciousness" / "we are one" ~idea as deity proxy and "the internet" as its currently purest form of scripture, exactly because it is this time and individual sensitive.

> How was your interaction with them like though? [...]
Eh... I would argue it was more like me bothering 'em. :3 (Those I interacted with seemed pretty chill, though.)

Ernst 13.01.24 12:02:07 No.12382

>>12381
Using "the internet" as holy scripture seems counter to this idea of pantheism. 3/10, wouldn't let you in my apron circlejerk either.

Ernst 13.01.24 12:21:59 No.12383

>>12382

*harrumph*

More and more souls are flooding this hell we call home.
Every one a potent stream of consciousness, adding to One.

Do you really want to cast away their words of struggle, just because you've seen it before?

*bows*

Not every soul had the luxury to watch this hell grow.